milblog1archives.jpg
PDA
Shop
Contact
YouTube Videos
To Mudville
Join MilBlogs
Someone You Should Know
MilBlogs


milblogsa1.jpg
Prev | List | Random | Next
Join
Powered by RingSurf!

Authors























Ground Support

SoA_proudsupporter.gif

soldiersangels.jpg

AnySoldierLogo.jpg

topmain.jpg

books_for_soldiers.gif

foundation_heroesfund02.jpg

fallen pats.jpg

fisherhouse.jpg

hopevil.jpg

opac.jpg

Adopt a platoon.jpg

Homes for our troops.jpg

WWproject.jpg

heromiles200.jpg

operation morale.jpg

cbrdg.jpg

op-give.jpg

mamo.jpg

Sponsors

Archives
April 2008

S
M
T
W
T
F
S
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30

Monthly Archives []


Feed me:

Sponsors

Roll Call

miblog-conf.jpg

MilBlog Ring Members
Random 20 Blogroll
[]

Angels / Supporting
our Troops Blogroll
[]

Friends of MilBlogs
Random 20 Blogroll
[]

The Fine Print

The Milblogs site has multiple authors. Unless otherwise credited, the opinions expressed are those of the specific author, and not the official position of any other contributor or any organization to which they belong, to include the United States Department of Defense or any of its subordinate components.

Comments and e-mails are welcome, but all such communication is to be assumed to be 1) the original work of any who initiate said communication and 2) in the public domain, with free use granted for publication in electronic or written form. If you do NOT wish to have your message posted, write "CONFIDENTIAL" in the subject line of your email.

Original content copyright © 2006 - 2008 by the respective authors. Fair, not-for-profit use of said material by others is encouraged, as long as acknowledgement and credit is given, to include the url of the original source post. Other arrangements can be made as needed.

Site contact: greyhawk at mudvillegazette dot com

« October 12, 2007 | Main | October 15, 2007 »

October 13, 2007

Someone Pinch Me

[Soldier's Dad]

via AP

The headline -

Saturday civilian toll falls dramatically to just 4 reported deaths

Not buried in paragraph 32..in the headline...of course the International Herald Tribune(NY Times) had 'controversial things' for the front page...."divided officers'.. at Fort Leavenworth...Gen Sanchez..Blackwater....

Not that for one day at least the bulk of the killing in Iraq stopped is worthy of Front Page Coverage.

Updated after the jump


Posted at 2116Z | Comments (1)

Re: Re:Hey...

[Mrs Greyhawk]

Charlie Foxtrot has the C-span Video of Sanchez. See the full unedited version


Posted at 2025Z | Comments (1)

Re: Hey

[Soldier's Dad]

Sanchez transcript machine recased after the jump...not perfect...but readable.


Posted at 1904Z | Comments (5)

Re: Hey...

[Greyhawk]

Could someone take a minute and convert
this thing from ALLCAPS???

JEEEBUS I HATED TRYING TO READ THIS STUFF WHEN IT WAS THE ONLY FORM OF MESSAGE TRAFFIC WE HAD. FOR SOME REASON I CAN'T PROCESS INFORMATION IN THIS FORMAT. I'M PROBABLY NOT ALONE IN THAT.

There are transcripts above and here and here and no one has bothered to translate it yet.

Me? I'm too dang busy...

(/whine)


Posted at 1854Z | Comments (4)

Re:Re: Winning the War

[Soldier's Dad]

Championing the "Road Not Taken" might be an emotionally soothing exercise. It might even have utility in lessons learned. Gen Shinseki may have been right that 500,000 security forces would be needed to effectively police Iraq.

Champions of the road not taken rarely discuss the unknowable costs of that road. What effect would conscription have had on the "Wait Us Out" scenario? We can't know...the road was not taken.

Gen Patraeus has something Lt Gen Sanchez and Gen Casey didn't have...300,000 semi-functioning Iraqi security forces...without which...that lone battalion Gen Patraeus has guarding Mosul would have been overrun long ago.

Gen Patraeus also has an Iraqi population that has experienced the lifestyle various extremist groups in Iraq would impose on them. Would the Iraqi people have been more or less accepting of a lifestlye imposed by 500,000 pairs of American boots not having experienced first hand Osam Bin Laden's romantized version of the 7th century...it is unknowable...that road was not taken.

What we do know is the Iraqi peoples rejection of various extremist idiologies and the 300,000 semi-functioning ISF are making a postive difference now.


Posted at 1653Z

MOVING THE GOALPOSTS (RE: WINNING THE WAR)

[Buck Sargent]
Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, the homegrown Sunni extremist group that American intelligence agencies say is foreign led.

Is it just me, or is this the NY Times stock phrase for Al Qaeda in IRAQ? It appears they use this exact wording in every single article whenever AQI is referenced. This has to be handed down from the top floor for every single reporter to use this precise of an imprecise description.

Would the Times similarly call the perpetrators of 9/11 "Al Qaeda in New Amsterdam, the domestic sleeper cells that European intelligencias say were a predictable result of our own misguided foreign policy"?


Posted at 1531Z

re: winning the war

[CDR Salamander]

In contrast to the story we have from Greyhawk, and others like it; we have what I think is going to bury the good news - the news of the present - the news of progress - for the news cycle through the weekend and the Sunday shows. It is going to bury it because it fits the storyboard that the MSM is comfortable with. Change is hard; change that puts the Iraq conflict in a positive light is just too difficult.

It seems that retired Lt. Gen. Sanchez is conducting his therapy in public.

He called current strategies - including the deployment of 30,000 additional forces earlier this year - a "desperate attempt" to make up for years of misguided policies in Iraq.

"There is no question that America is living a nightmare with no end in sight," Sanchez told a group of journalists covering military affairs.
...
"There is nothing going on today in Washington that would give us hope" that things are going to change, he said.

He then goes into a 'All is lost, but we have to stay....' logic stream that is a bit difficult to follow.

At a time that Gen. Petraeus is getting traction and moving forward, I think those who once had his responsibility and failed should either get out and push or get out of the way - and unquestionably stop throwing obstacles in his way. I'm not going to dwell too much on Lt. Gen. Sanchez - but knowing what I know about his time in Baghdad, "General, heal thyself." about says it.


Posted at 1151Z | Comments (8)

« October 12, 2007 | Main | October 15, 2007 »