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Well, that ruffled some feathers.
I'm glad to see Republicans energetically defending themselves. Lethargy and malaise are unbecoming in a party during a Presidential campaign. On the political homefront they are indeed the one party that's supported the effort in Iraq from the beginning, and kept it from becoming "another Vietnam", and I think the GOP can take pride in that. I think if the average Republican knew more about the war in Iraq they would certainly do so. The funny thing is, the problem I see is that things are actually going better than even the most loyal Republican thinks (Hint: read that link). So I'm not impressed when I hear people insist we're winning the war we won last year.
Democrats, on the other hand, have offered nothing in response to this quote: "[Democrats] need to know all they can about Iraq, if they didn't, they could accidentally say something true about the war." So it goes.
But now I offer folks a chance to demonstrate their fundamental knowledge of Iraq, instead of their outrage at accusations of lacking same. Here's a two-part question - I think it's the most basic one possible:
What is the primary mission of the US military in Iraq?
a. Strategic Overwatch
c. Training Iraqi security forces
d. Providing security
e. Building infrastructure
f. All the above and more
g. None of the above
And where is that mission defined?
For bonus points: under whose authority is that mission conducted, and how is success measured?
I was wondering what you were up to... the tone in your previous post was so different from your usual writings.
2) Not sure where it's laid out.
3) UN Security Council, and not sure of the precise means of measuring success.
1) f - I don't think certain of these can really be separated from one another (e.g. - counterinsurgency requires that the civilian population be protected, and that they are receiving services, which are items c,d, & e)
3)SOFA between Iraq & US
Primary Mission - f. All the above and more
Mission Definition - Madrid Conference - 2003
Mission Authority/ Success Measurement - The US Government in Consultation with the Iraqi Government. I am not fully aware of the new Status of Forces Agreements.
V/R GrumpyPosted by Grumpy at September 6, 2008 08:51 PM
I agree that it's "f". The mission has always been the sum and not just one part.
The mission has been under the direction of the President from the beginning. Congress has only agreed to finance the efforts and that was with some hesitation, especially from Democrats.
I would assume, which is always dangerous, there's a Presidential Directive, or its equivalent, that defines the mission.Posted by Paul at September 6, 2008 09:05 PM
Greyhawk, you enjoy embarrassing people, don't you? ;)
Well, let me oblige you with another feeble attempt to answer your questions...
1. None of the above--those are all strategies for conducting/fulfilling the broader mission
2. Achieve victory (defeat terrorists and build a democratic state), defined in The National Strategy for Victory in Iraq: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html
I can't keep my eyes open at the moment so maybe I shouldn't post this, but oh well... ;)Posted by FbL at September 7, 2008 05:50 AM
Fuzzy, let the old boy have some fun. I was wrong, but the question was good one. It irritated me enough to "Think". 'Hawk, that is why started to smell something burning.
Primary Mission - f. All of the Above/ We are fighting a counterinsurgency. We must work on all points or we will have a cascade failure effect.
Mission Definition - COIN/FM-3.24/12.06 or (Page 31 of 282)
Mission Authority - Jointly held by the Sovereign Nation of Iraq and the Sovereign Nation of the United States of America. The measurement standards are established in the "Counterinsurgency Field Manual".
Thank you, SIR,
Here's a link to the download of the "COIN-FM"
Type URL in your browser window and download it.Posted by Grumpy at September 7, 2008 11:55 PM
Bah... I'd meant (f), of course, in my original response. I'm dense, but not that dense...Posted by malclave at September 8, 2008 04:44 AM Hide Comments | Show/Add Comments in Popup Window(8) | (Note: You must refresh main page to view newly posted comments here)