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February 25, 2007

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Looks like Appeal for Redress will get a big boost tonight when 60 Minutes covers the group.

Don't expect much investigative journalism from this piece - the online intro includes this:

"I'm not anti-war. I'm not a pacifist. I'm not opposed to protecting our country and defending our principles," says Navy Petty Officer Jonathan Hutto, an Iraq war veteran who, along with another veteran, initiated the petition.

Hutto has never been to Iraq - if they can't get that fact straight they probably aren't going to offer the real story behind this group.

The irony is that 60 Minutes missed a golden opportunity to do what once upon a time a long time ago they supposedly existed for - expose these sorts of frauds perpetrated on unsuspecting people.

Update: The story at the link has already been re-written, eliminating the claim that Hutto is an Iraq war veteran.

But in her "Reporters Notebook" video (at the link) Lara Logan describes Appeal for redress: "It's basically a grass roots movement amongst active duty, serving members of the U.S. military." And "We were very careful to look thoroughly at the group, and to look into their military backgrounds, and to make sure that this wasn't... people with something hidden in their past or some reason that wasn't the stated reason to be involved in this."

Wrong. I guess CBS isn't just guilty of bad reporting, they're actually helping perpetrate the fraud.

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"The reader will kindly forgive any tendency to rough language or behavior on the part of the site owner... "

This was the first thing I read on your blog and it is SUCH a welcome warning. I'm not much for mincing words or watching my step around overly sensitive thin-skinned types either. I feel like I can breathe.

That said ...

Cut the swift boat bullshit, alright? Yeah, yeah. We know. It's never what was said, but always who said it. Second verse, same as the first. Its lost it's effectiveness.

Let's pretend it is you upfront for this movement. As it seems there is nothing about your sterling reputation for anyone to attack you as a messenger, what do you envsion as a reasonable rebuttal to someone as stainless, innocent, and pure as yourself who takes this stand? What would you argue if you were somehow forced to argue on the merits of the debate?

Anybody can insult anybody. But can you actually support your own position?

Posted by KDP at February 26, 2007 02:48 AM

Man, you should get paid to be a batter reporter than Bob Woodward, Jennifer Loven, Mike Wallace, Morley Safer, and any other reporter who "claims" bonafides as an investigative journalist. What morons.

As for KDP, he don't know you very well, do he?

Same song, second verse. He's just louder and a lot worse.

Press on, GreyHawk. You're doing good out there.

Subsunk

Posted by Subsunk at February 26, 2007 03:26 AM

kdp
Swift boat bullshit? I dealt with swift boats before Kerry destroyed their name you yahoo. They have more honor in the hair that they leave on the barber's floor than you or your machiavellis in the 'peace movement' have in your entire organization. The only thing that anyone needs to support the 'position' is that coward's enlistment contract. The part about him understanding that he's joining the military is especially instructive. It says that he knows that he's going to war on orders and nobody has to ask him a damn thing. If he's so stupid that he can't read something that he has to prove that he can read then he needs to be institutionalized.

Posted by Mike H. at February 26, 2007 06:17 AM

kdp
Please clarify - who has been insulted or 'swiftboated'?

Posted by greyhawk at February 26, 2007 04:42 PM

The Left reminds me of the Islamic Jihad children bomb factories. Because they are so steeped in deception that... they can no longer tell the truth from their own propaganda. They believe in their own propaganda, they live it, they die for it.

Such a waste, of their time and ours.

Posted by Ymarsakar at February 26, 2007 10:04 PM

It is like they actually believe the swift boat group's claims are untrue. It is one thing to claim it for propaganda, it is another to actually believe.

Posted by Ymarsakar at February 26, 2007 10:07 PM

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