It's stories like these that need to be given to every American liberal and Leftist who still pretends to believe that the insurgency is a "freedom fighter" force, akin to George Washington and his Continental Army. These "freedom fighters" don't want freedom. They want Islamist fascism, enforced at knife point at the barrel of a gun, and anyone who stands in their way, Muslim or American or Iraqi or whatever, is going to be a target.

I'm not saying American forces are seen as friends by all Iraqis, but anyone who thinks the U.S. is the "bad guy" in Iraq, is fooling himself. It's the displaced Baathists, Sunnis, and their al Qaeda buddies who are doing the most harm to the Iraqi population as a whole. Again, it's not American troops who are car bombing crowds of kids in the market squares.

Haditha Reporter Was Jailed By US, Shares Name With Source

Fox is reporting more charges against Marines, not Haditha, not the pregnant woman, but a man around Baghdad. The charges have been prefered against approx. seven people, one Navy, the rest Marines. If we're going to start turning on our troops like we did in 'Nam, we need to bring them home. Osama is right, we're the weak horse.

Right. Like you really believe Anti-American sentiment could have been prevented from happening in Iraq and Afghanistan. And you can count whom is killing how many till the cows come home. Means jack.

Common Sense says the longer we are there the worse it will get. Bush and the Pentagon are talking "decades"? Hell you’ll be fighting boy scouts from Iowa before then.

We are the invaders. We are the foreigners, the ausslanders, the infidel. We will allways be attacked until we leave and the Arab's manhood is restored. Its the Arab way. Haven't you been watching the Israeli/Arab conflict for the past eighty years?

LOL

If Salmineo is correct then we should just ignore the ignorant Islamist and they'll only kill a few thousand Americans per year until they get the equipment to kill a few million a year. Meanwhile we do as we did in the 90's, sit back and pretend it didn't happen. Salmineo's thinking will get millions around the world, including members of the phony religion of Islam, killed when someone wakes up and drops a dozen or so big ones on some of the larger cities controlled by the terrorist religion. And someone will tire of the crazies killing day after day and wipe them from the face of the earth, you can take that to the bank.

"Haven't you been watching the Israeli/Arab conflict for the past eighty years?"

Eighty Years?

I find "We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."
--Osama bin Laden ironic cuz. . . well.

the US is the best at delivering both.

80 years, hmmm...seems like only yesterday that Pharoah was chasing the children of Israel across the Red Sea.

Sorry SFC D, forgot about that. Was that before or after the temple at Aswan? Didn't someone publish a book about that at Alexandria? I think Begin recommended that one didn't he? The Israeli version of course. It's amazing how much time can be compressed into eighty years. Now, about the tags, do you need them Sal?

Sorry, I guess I should include them. /Sarcasm

History is so much fun when you get to create it.

I'm sorry, but everyone seems to be already conceding that the marines did bad and lied about Haditha.

We know that in places like Tal Afar that children were murdered, their bodies booby trapped to kill their parents who came to find them.

Has anybody considered that the Sunnis shot all the holes into the so-called civilians when they were corpses, drug their bodies out for photos, and are playing their game on our media?

Where's the forensic evidence that our rifles, and bullets killed these women and children?

Right now, I believe our valiant soldiers did as they say they did. The house came down and killed people.

The idea that a large group of well trained soldiers who had been especially careful in every action they had thus taken to protect civilians would suddenly go all My Lai, well, it just doesn't wash. I don't buy it for a second.

All the murders, the few, that have happened in Iraq were isolated and perpetrated by a very few men. Not whole squads. I trust the Marine training and ROE being adhered to.

I don't believe this atrocity happened at all according to the media.

Whose word do you want to trust in this. Sunni scumbags or American soldiers and officers?

Let's just wait for the truth to come out. I doubt the real facts will look anything like what the MSM is feeding us.

This is an incredible post; I hope it holds true:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20853_Haditha_Reporter_Jailed_by_US&only

Based on past stories, the present media frenzy can easily be a manufactured event that is only remotely based on truth.

Posted by SFC D at June 2, 2006 03:22 AM

Yeah, Eighty Years.

Search the Balfour conferance 1916. Then read about the Five Jewish terrorist organizations that murdered Arabs starting Ten years before WWII, and not in self defense either.

Split hairs if you like but the Jews took that land from the Arabs and made the Arab a second class citizen. Only a Jew could vote until the world forced Israel to give voting rights to non-jews in the late 60's. What, you thought these people were fighting without a cause? Man nobody could be that mad for that long for "no good reason".

I'm sorry, but Harry Truman made a mistake that we are sufering the effects from. He made that mistake just to win an election that Jewish own newspapers "missprinted" he would lose. So he recognized srael to get the American Jewish vote. Turned out he never really needed too because he won the "close election" by a Landslide!

Is there a weakness in our system involving the corporate/liberal or WTF media? You Bet!

Try something else. Get an old windows 95 version CD of Encarta and search this. Then check a newer version for windows 98. GONE! Erased from history. No Jewish terrorists no Balfour. Israel began because of WWII Nazi crimes, (which did have an effect). You will have to search hard cover books for all the facts and the facts are that the Zionists, (fundamentalist Jews) went down there and started stirring up crap right after the fall of the Ottoman Empire circa WWI.

Posted by SFC D at June 2, 2006 03:22 AM

Posted by Mike H. at June 2, 2006 03:46 AM

Pagans were killing Jews and Pagans were killing Arabs in Mecca. The Arab, and, the Jew are the same race, Carthinagan/Arab, just different tribes. Pharoah was of Nubian decent and Black. Though they/we are all mixed up now anyway.

So there old wise one, may I suggest you study beyond Charlton Heston Movies and some Baptist preacher.
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Sal,you're a good jew hater, and we should stipulate that fact. Just out of curiosity are you a muslim or a skinhead?

Posted by Mike H. at June 2, 2006 12:06 AM

OK. We've got big peckers. We are not afraid of name calling. Bring'em home! Dump Israel, let them fight it out themselves.

The Arabs will love us for it and we get uninterupted oil. Jews will bitch, but secretly love us cause they will nuke the crap out of Iran. Bet ya after the nukes fall and the Irainians are all dead in 30 minutes, the Arabs and Israelis will suddenly start getting along like the blood brothers they truly are. Tea anybody?
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Posted by Scrapiron at June 2, 2006 01:07 AM

If the "Islamists" had the ability to kill "millions" of Americans they would have done it by now. There aren’t any magnets in Iraq sucking their iron heads there to fight. They could come here any time they want, Iraq or no Iraq. Whatever is keeping them away, will still keep them away, Iraq or not.

As for doing nothing in the 90's, you have to back to the eighties to count all the "doing nothings". Not to mention America arming Saddam and the Iranians. What, you forgot Olli North’s treason and Reagan's Public Apology?

This is a bi-partisan mess folks.
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Posted by Mike H. at June 2, 2006 06:22 AM

I'm not a Jew hater, you just want me to be one so you can diminish what I have to say, because what you have to say is party line stupidity. There are many Jews that believe exactly as I do. But you won’t find them on Fox news.

I'm an American. Save for courtesy, a persons religion is irrelevant to me. As long as their political priorities are American first.

If the "Islamists" had the ability to kill "millions" of Americans they would have done it by now.

What are you basing that on? So they will not keep trying now that you've stated this? We're all safe, in other words?

People like you who want to spread blame rather than do something to fix the problem are part of the problem and not the solution.

Person's religion is irrelevant? How about the 9-11 hijackers? Was their religion irrelevant?

Asinine.

Anything that doesn't re-inforce salmineo's (wasn't he a no-talent pretty boy from Philly or something?) preconceived notions is irrelevant. Responding to him is probably pointless, since he'll both miss the point (deliberately or thru ignorance) and respond with a non sequiter. Seems to keep him happy, though. I guess it doesn't take much to keep the blame-the-Jews types happy.

The left-wing appeaseniks (I refuse to play along with their fraudulent appropriation of the word "liberal") demand not justice, which the Marine Corps is in fact pursuing in a serious and disciplined manner, but inhuman perfection.

Apply this same standard (and the breathtaking lack of empathy that goes with it) to WWII and you get: "Let he who is without sin liberate Auschwitz."

"Pharoah was of Nubian decent and Black."

You know Sal, the fact that you make this a declarative statement when, at best it is heavily debated, says a bit about how much veracity we should ascribe to you. Science isn't an opinion, that's why it makes a good marker on someone's reliability as a source of information.