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Well, I just looked up Kellog, Brand and Roots (KBR) a subsidiary of Halliburton.
Seems KBR is applying for separation from Halliburton as they want to go public as an independent company. They won't know the price of their IPO (initial public offering) until their application for separation from Halliburton is complete.
How does this play into our Military going broke?
Well, it seems that KBR, Inc. wants to go it's separate way as it holds billions of dollars in US Government contracts to provide "services" in the "Mid-east." It expects to get more as more globalization and militarization occurs in the world.
Check it out by going to the Halliburton site and looking at their KBR site. It says currently not available but on page 4 of their application to the Federal Exchange for separation from Halliburton you will see (in the first paragraph) that these vultures are hoping to skim the uniforms off of the troops in order to make their IPO and dividends pay out for their big time share holders.
Shame. Shame.
MJ
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Posted by MJ Welch/PrairieWaif at May 10, 2006 05:14 AM
I'm sure you mean Kellogg, Brown and Root.
Somehow you forgot to mention what, if anything, they've done wrong.
Posted by Greyhawk at May 10, 2006 05:47 AM
Yep, that's the correct filler for the acronym. I couldn't find it anywhere on their website, Halliburton's website or their application to the FCC.
What have they done wrong? Well, overcharge the government by $90 million and then claiming, "This kind of thing happens all the time. We usually work this out along the way."
In the meantime they are making a killing on the interest.
Food. They run the food operations. I belong to another website and the soldiers complain that once KBR is done with chow hall's very limited hours, there isn't even decent sandwiches in a refridgerator that security could access for them. It's back to the tent for their MRI's.
Riding shotgun for KBR. Soldiers are tired of riding shotgun for KBR contractors driving trucks in Iraq. They complain that these guys have no training how to avoing RPG's and IED'd. The "angels riding shotgun" put their lives on the line at military pay for war profiteers making $3,000 to $5,000 per week or more.
Soldiers are tired of puting their lives on the line for these guys. They said they are their to help the Afghani's or Iraqi's not Yanks trying to get rich quick and get out.
My brother, served a year with the Army Corps of Engineers, got sick of them not delivering tents, latrines or showing up and having camp set-up prior to an arrival of troops to a predetermined post. MRI's and hanging your ass in the breeze for latrines or writing your name in the sand.
He got sick of their inefficiency at high contract cost to the government real quick. He said, "We used to pay the military to have these jobs and they got done. Now we have guys that don't give a damn because it isn't them starving in the desert with a gun and a pack to carry and they've never been through boot camp to become brothers."
Maybe some people won't view that as wrong, but a low value on the report card of those making money off of a war.
MJ
prairie waif
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Posted by MJ Welch/PrairieWaif at May 10, 2006 06:44 PM
MJ, unless you know the name of the company you criticize, everyhing you say after is suspect.
...and it's MREs, not MRIs.
...and sure soldiers like to bitch about shitty duties, but the fact is, KBR feeds them, provides shelter, water, electricity, etc. Without KBR, the troops would be living in a much, much harsher environment than not being able to get a fresh sandwich after hours.
Posted by LJD at May 11, 2006 12:34 PM
ohhhh...where to start on this one...
They run the food operations. I belong to another website and the soldiers complain that once KBR is done with chow hall's very limited hours, there isn't even decent sandwiches in a refridgerator that security could access for them.
KBR is directed which hours to operate those DFAC's you dolt. By the ACO--A military liason. Usually an O3 or O4. As far as the sandwhiches and security, that makes no sense. Was is people wanting a late snack?--if so then you're right back to the ACO. If it was a late mission, then you should--oh yea--also take that up with the ACO. Last time KBR went out on a limb to make sure everyone was covered, they got slammed by the DCMA for overcharging--that same incident you mention about the food.
"war profiteers making $3,000 to $5,000 per week or more."
Where do you people keep getting these numbers? There's not a simgle person in KBR making $5,000 a week. The next closest are people specifically hired by the department of defense and are paid out of Rock Island, VA.
Wanna know how much those drivers make? I'll tell you...the top end is $77,000 a year! Not to far from what truck drivers make in the US. All that media hype about the highest paid is a bunch of bull. KBR is the absolute lowest paid in country--out of over 800 companies.
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your commen about the USACE, (US Army Corp of Engineers), too funny--get your facts straight. Almost every last of the 200 billion that USACE controlled went to PCO companies, not KBR. KBR is seperate--its on LOGCAP. USACE falls under IRMO with PCO---reconstruction.
KBR only did reconstruction on pipelines, people bitched about it so they lost the contract over a year ago. USACE had billions they awarded to companies that had not-jack to do with KBR.
You must be looking over sites like halliburtonwatch.com which uses outright falsifications.
--making profit off war---um, yea, thats the idea. What, did you think walmart was going to close its doors and donate all its loot to support the war? Who then? BTW, KBR isn't wanting to split off you non-news reading feind...Halliburton is getting rid of it because it's not very profitable. 4 billion in costs is not the same as 4 billion in profit....have you ever so much as ran a pizza joint?
Posted by veteran and contractor at May 13, 2006 11:00 PM
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