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First watch the video.
The folks at moveon.org could be taken seriously about supporting the troops - if anyone in the group even knew what one looked like. Best of the Web posted an email from an army captain who busted the phonies yesterday.
Here's the screen shot from the moveon ad:
As the captain noted, these guys are in British uniforms. He also pointed out the guy in shorts, noting that's not part of the US uniform. Actually, a GI could have a pair of shorts (though PT gear is the only authorized) making that guy the only one in the picture who could possibly be an American (but he's not.)
However, the moveon crowd must have read the "shorts" comment, then scrambled and put this picture on their web site:
Next, of course, they're going to have to give curly in the background a US-spec'd haircut.
Then change those uniforms to US issue, as in this example:
See the Brit? He's the one without a hat. That doesn't happen in Uncle Sam's Army.
Oh my, did wee willy get banned again? His parents really should keep a closer watch on him.Posted by SSG_K at December 1, 2005 12:59 AM
It doesn't matter whether the uniforms are correct. Were the American soldiers who were torturing Iraqis at Abu Ghraib in correct uniform? Does it make you feel better or worse, SSG_K?Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 1, 2005 01:59 AM
I can't believe that that was the best retort you could come up with--fingering a few soldiers (who are now in prison themselves, by the way) out of the roughly 750,000 that have served since then...Posted by Chris at December 1, 2005 02:56 AM
Wilson, dearest... it DOES matter what the uniform is... You see, you can only fool some of the people... but you and moveon don't fool any of us. You don't fool us and you certainly don't SPEAK for us. You have been caught with your pants, er... off. (I just couldn't resist Greyhawk!)Posted by Some Soldier's Mom at December 1, 2005 03:25 AM
All this proves is that the TRUE CARING about "our troops" that Move On wants to tell us controls their desires for an end to the "War on Terror" (which is what leaving Iraq would be) - is nothing but "political circle talk." Too lazy to find a REAL American picture and quick to lie! IF they cared - there would be real Americans in their pictures AND a tribute to the British troops! I like the comment about how the missing hat would never exist in Uncle Sam's Army - TRUE to the extreme!Posted by chrys at December 1, 2005 04:00 AM
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures or interviews that appear to be outdoors where our soldiers are without head cover, but I would expect that would be a sort of "this spot is actually part of that area so you don't need hats", cover on flight lines is a no-no, or perhaps I'm simply mistaken.
It could be that I'm so used to hats I don't see them... sort of like watching Kung Fu Hustle and swearing afterward that it wasn't sub-titled. ;-)Posted by Julie at December 1, 2005 05:30 AM
I am normally not a big fan of any news org or whatever that has a biased viewpoint, but you gitta give kudos to FOX--up there on the big screen in the CAOC I just watched them highlight the moveon coverup, even putting the pictures side by side.
I hope this tanks them, because it a doozie to their credibility.Posted by Chris at December 1, 2005 05:36 AM
Chris, all they did is bust a few lower-level people. They left the real criminals -- Rumsfeld, Cheney and their cronies -- unscathed. They are war criminals under the precedents set at the Nuremberg Trials of 1946. Oops, but I forgot: You'd have taken the Nazis side, like any good Bushbot.Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 1, 2005 05:39 AM
That's the best you can do, Wilson, is this lame Nazi shit? Why do you love throwing that word around from behind the keyboard? Why don't you try calling somebdy a Nazi to his face?Posted by Steve Skubinna at December 1, 2005 06:14 AM
I'd be happy to call you a Nazi to your face, Steve. Where would you like to meet?Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 1, 2005 06:50 AM
So it is alright for moveon.org to blatantly mislead the public?Posted by Spectre at December 1, 2005 07:25 AM
Well, let's put it this way. The Jawhol! crowd is forever prattling on about how all veterans love the Fuhrer. Okay, so guess what? The people who will care about military uniform details wouldn't be reached by Move.org ads no matter how accurate the details are. Those who don't notice the inaccurancy of the uniforms aren't going to care, because the point will have been made.Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 1, 2005 07:56 AM
Okay Wilson. Get out to WestPac and look me up. In the meantime, keep lurking, lying, and slandering.Posted by Steve Skubinna at December 1, 2005 10:13 AM
Hey Steve I haven't lied about anything. And if you look up the definition of slander, you'd see that it doesn't apply. So, you want to send me an airplane ticket to meet you? First class, natch.Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 1, 2005 10:21 PM
Wilson? You still here? I go away for a few days and figured you'd have moved on to more fertile grounds by now.
And now you are wanting to hook up with folks too? he-he! That's just about a joke! You remind me so much of one of those little kids that used to run off about 50 yards and then flip the bird. Keyboard warrior!
I think you've lost your grip little boy. Now run along, quit trying to play grown up, and do your homework.
Let's see... what were you saying before I left? Oh yeah, you seem to think you have some sort of atypical smear with me 'cause I wasn't military? Well, you are correct. Over 20 years from AB to Skipper in the USMM doesn't qualify me for squat but I'm still proud of it just the same. And just what are your qualifications again? Playing with your buttbuddies in the closet of a frat house qualifies you how to make judgements on me exactly? Or anyone else? Yep! you are definitely a legend in your own mind and have about one of the most serious cases of pe**s envy I've ever run across! heh!
Time to enlist there Wilson. See if you've really got what it takes instead of trying to build up your own deficiencies on the backs of others. Do you have the intestinal fortitude there Wilson? Can you show yourself and the world what you think you're made of? Shoot man, they're just little mind numbed robots, it should be a walk in the park for a man of such physical prowess and stellar intellect such as yourself! Let us know how that works out!
Or does it scare you too much to contemplate? Still wetting the bed too? Oh you're just so much fun! What a man! LMAO! :-oPosted by JarheadDad at December 2, 2005 12:14 AM
Sorry, Dad, but I'm too old to enlist. As for the spankings you crave, somehow I suspect you'd want your spank-ees to be younger guys than me. But hey, who knows? As for your "military" background, anyone can write anything they want to on the Internet, but I think you gave yourself away when you pissed on the grave of the fallen because he's not a wingnut like you.
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 2, 2005 03:11 AM
Wilson shows lack of reading comprehension by spewing at "Jarhead Dad":
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.
Odd, I thought his handle indicated that he was the father of a Marine. Though USMM stands for "United States Merchant Marine"(?) that isn't quite the same as the United States Marine Corps. HTH. HAND.
Oh, and slander:
Main Entry: 2slander
Etymology: Middle English sclaundre, slaundre, from Old French esclandre, from Late Latin scandalum stumbling block, offense -- more at SCANDAL
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person -- compare LIBEL
That pretty much fits what you do to those icky enough to disagree with your viewpoints. You call them Nazis, say they're sexual deviants, and more. Unless you're being cute and trying to pass off slander as spoken defamation, in which case then libel would fit. They're two words for the same thing, just different mediums of transmission.
(Gosh, I wonder what rant Wilson's going to release to "justify" his slander and libel techniques.)Posted by Patrick Chester at December 2, 2005 04:14 AM
Oh wait, I just thought of one:
In order to damage someone's reputation, the one engaging in slander has to be credible or believable. Gosh, Wilson's SAFE from slander charges then. All he can do is hope his words cause a little pain and annoyance. No wonder he's so cranky: he's utterly powerless beyond that.Posted by Patrick Chester at December 2, 2005 04:16 AM
Wow, you people are even dumber than the average rightwingnut which is saying a lot. First off, Jarhead refers to the U.S. Marine Corps not the merchant marine. A Jarhead Dad could be the father of a marine, but it's more logical that it would be a marine who is a father. It's a grammar thing and you wouldn't understand.
Now, as for slander, look at the definition. It doesn't apply here. Reading: It's what's for dinner.Posted by Wilson Kolb at December 2, 2005 08:39 AM
So by claiming people who don't agree with you are Nazis, torturers, sexual deviants and otherwise bad people you are somehow NOT trying to defame and damage those people's reputations?Posted by Patrick Chester at December 2, 2005 10:28 AM
The history of JarheadDad? heh! Well let's see. First off, if you go to our webiste you'll see it is run by "A Jarhead's Dad" but when trying to post on various sites (as a registered user btw) AJarheadsDad was taken. So was JarheadsDad. So it ended up being JarheadDad. I believe everyone under the sun knows me and who my son is. Guess you missed the memo huh Wilson? Why do I not find that surprising? ;-)
Anyone CAN write anything on the internet Wilson. You are living proof of that. But if you've been around since Hawk first started his site and the other milblogs began then you'd best have it right. Ya think? heh!
Funny, I grew up with Marines. My Uncle is an Okie Marine and four of my cousins served in the Corps. I spent a few cruises running Marine support vessels and my best friends are Marines. Not one of them seems to have a problem with my handle but yet you Wilson, someone that sits on the sidelines, never served a day in your life, and hides behind a keyboard, has a problem with it. Gee, go figure! LOL!
Yes Patrick, you got it right but everyone knows that Merchant Mariners are just pogues on big boats! heh! Just ask Wilson. He's an expert on everything and he'll be able to tell you all about our duties and what the USMM does. And here I thought my handle was quite clear and intentionally so! So that is how the moonbats look at the world huh? No wonder I can't understand Wilson in the least. We don't operate on the same plane of consciousness! HA!
Next thing you know Wilson will be telling me that since Da Grunt hasn't had a shower in four weeks he's not fit to be a Marine either! Isn't that how the logic works? What a twisted view of the world it is from the left side. Be careful Wilson, if you go too far to the left you'll fall of the edge of the world. Don't forget the world is flat!! :-o
At least you got one thing right bedwetter, you don't know who or what I am. And Marine is spelled with a capital M. ROTFLMAO!Posted by JarheadDad at December 2, 2005 11:06 AM Hide Comments | Show/Add Comments in Popup Window(21) | (Note: You must refresh main page to view newly posted comments here)