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Sad story. Sounds like the mother was a dirtbag who hooked up with another dirtbag.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 21, 2005 05:04 PM
By the way, not to defend the Oklahoma DHS's actions, but DHS operations are almost always overstaffed and underfunded. You know, low taxes and all that.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 21, 2005 05:06 PM
Yeah, those low taxes which are only enough to fund hundreds of billions of dollers worth of pork barrel projects but not protecting children like this.
Solution: jack up taxes some more!
Just goes to show how carefully some people think their positions through.
Poor child, and poor father. My thoughts are with them both.
Posted by Nicholas at November 21, 2005 07:47 PM
Please let us know, how can we help. My heart just cries for this little angel and her father.
Patti
soldiersangels@gmail.com
Posted by patti bader at November 21, 2005 09:10 PM
I'd also have to wonder about the whole situation. I mean, this woman divorces the guy and takes up with the sort ofn scumbag who beats a child to death. Wouldn't you think the father of the child would have known this woman a little better before deciding to crank out a baby with her?
Now, you can't predict stuff like that death in advance, and life's full of surprises including nasty ones like this. But what sort of couple was this? She divorces him while she's pregnant. Says something pretty bad about her, and frankly if I were him I doubt I'd be feeling all that great about myself.
Oh well, I guess it's how things are done in the red states. If I'm not mistaken, Oklahoma has the highest divorce rate in the United States, as opposed to, say, Massachusetts, which has the lowest.
God forbid we should discuss personal responsibility here, huh?
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 21, 2005 10:05 PM
Poor little Angel. Will link to this story and the families web.
DHS has had a long history of mishandling cases in a lot of states for years. Bringing up tax cuts concerning the death of a child due to what is most likely a long term problem that has occurred for several administrations is obscene.
Posted by Becky D at November 21, 2005 10:06 PM
What's obscene, dear Becky, is what happened to the child. As for DHS's being underfunded, it happens all over the place. Open your eyes, wipe away the crocodile tears, stopping patting yourself on the back for your concern and take a look. The lower the state tax burden, generally the worse the DHS is. Not always true, but it's usually the case.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 21, 2005 10:14 PM
Wilson,
Way to show some class.
Amazing, that you've trained your high horse to dance on graves like that.
Another rainy day in Seattle, nothing better to do than troll some milblogs...
Posted by SCSIwuzzy at November 21, 2005 11:04 PM
As a Nurse I have seen DHS drop the ball for years. Coming from a state with one of the highest tax ratios in the Nation we still have a DHS that fails. The more money you throw at a failure the harder it can drop the ball.
Try taking a look at the departments instead of declaring a lack of money to be the problem.
Posted by Becky D at November 21, 2005 11:09 PM
Gee between a chance to show sympathy to a lost child and her grieving father or scoring political points, Wilson Kolb chooses politics.
How sad.
Posted by RSwan at November 22, 2005 12:26 AM
Hey children, if I ran the show the stepfather would be executed and the mother would get a good, hard look to see what she knew of the abuse. If she knew anything or was in a position where she should have known, she'd be doing hard time.
As for the rest, I absolutely stand by every word of what I wrote. To the Besky's of the world I say this: Sympathy costs you nothing and it means the same. Jesus didn't call this little girl home, her dirtbag mother and scumbag stepfather are responsible for her death. And I'd really like to know what the father was thinking with respect to having a kid with that woman who impersonated a mother.
The fact that he was in the military doesn't absolve the guy of responsibility for his choices. And Becky and the rest of the Jawohl! crowd here might stop to ponder the fate of the many thousands of Iraqi children whose only crime in life was to cross the path of an American cluster bomb. Life's cruel; no one is more comfortable with the idea than you.
When God stuck children on the earth, he didn't make any distinctions based on geography. Kids are to be protected. So spare us the extravagant hoo-hah about the cute kid in Oklahoma when you're silent about the thousands upon thousands in Iraq. Your "compassion," like your other so-called values, is completely phony.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 22, 2005 05:09 PM
Wilson, whether you choose to agree with the war or not- it may do you some good to follow my grandfathers advice "you do not have to favor why we are fighting, but you must respect those that are fighting".
If you like your goverment granted right to run your mouth, you should thank a soldier for it. If you like the fact that you can get in your fancy car and drive to your left winged tree hugging war bashing parties- thank a soldier. Because what it comes down to is that if these men and women where not willing to fight for your unthankful disrespectful self- you wouldn't have the right to nod your head in either direction without permission from some crazed goverment run regime.
And honestly, these men and women are willingly risking their lives in order to serve your country. Now if I can over look the fact that that means they are also risking their lives so that idiots like you can continue to insult them, and every one else who you disagree with- you should be willing to shut up and sit down, and show a bit of respect for them.
Posted by L. at November 22, 2005 06:40 PM
What a sorry excuse for an American you are, L. The "right to run your mouth" is not government granted. Like the average rightwingnut, you haven't ever bothered to study the founding documents of the country you falsely claim to love, or the principles by which it was founded.
We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal, with the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That governments are formed to protect those rights, and that they draw their power from the consent of the governed.
So, you five-star idiot, if you think the U.S. government "grants" a right to free speech then you're just as stupid as your Fake President and you probably lie as effortlessly as he does, too.
Now, as for the soldiers in Iraq, absoutely nothing they are doing there is defending this country. They are Americans in harm's way, and as such I wish them the best and eagerly await their return home, where they belong. I have never held the war against them; they don't get to choose their deployments.
You and your Liar in Chief have shamefully invoked patriotism in service of an imperial conquest that has utterly nothing to do with defending the United States.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 23, 2005 05:54 PM
Wilson, there goes that left wing nut in you, distorting the reality again.
The very document that you refer to only goes to prove my point, thanks. The Constitution was created by our founding fathers, it established many rights that we where to have under the American Government. First Amendment guarantees the freedom of worship, of speech, of the press, of assembly, and of petition to the government for redress of grievances.Note the whole the freedom of speech part. Now, that means that when establishing the rights you would have under the power of the American government- they decided to protect not only my right but yours. They choose to guarantee that under our system of government, you would be granted free speech- without the threat of government interference. The ability to speak may be something that everyone world wide normally shares (just to be PC with you- expect those that are mute) but the RIGHT to use that ability was given, and is preserved by YOUR government. You are welcome to step into some third world, communist run, regime controlled country and attempt to run your month under the pretense that they believe the "all men are created equal" deal there too- I just don't want to hear your pleas when you are tortured or killed because you said something that THAT country's government didn't agree with.
The founding fathers granted the right to free speech- why? Because just they wanted to ensure that the Americans of later generations would be able to have that right. If there had never been an issue with whether people should be able to enjoy freedom of speech, without the threat of persecution from the government, they would not have included it.
As for who is the "sorry excuse for an American ", I would have to point at the very person who clearly lacks respect with the very rights ENSURED and GRANTED to you by our first system of government. And those that fought for those rights. Or didn't you ever get to the part of American History where we learned about the struggle of the first Americans to gain freedom from the British?
As for this war, and your beliefs- I do ask you to change your thoughts on whether it is justified or not- but I would have hoped that you would respect those that, whether in this war or in one you believe in, would risk their lives to serve. I would ask that you give them the honor they are due, and to realize that if tomorrow a regime came into America and attempted to take away your rights, these men and women who you condemn now would be the very man and women giving their lives to protect you. Funny, how after you can criticize them they would still be willing to serve you.
Posted by L. at November 24, 2005 03:28 PM
Once again, L, you flunk civics class. Where did you go to school, in some wingnut southern "Christian" academy established to prevent the horrors of sitting next to a black child?
Neither the U.S. Constitution nor the founders "granted" the right to free speech. That and other rights were granted by the Creator; our government is based on the principle that governments must recognize those rights, and that to secure those rights governments are formed aqnd that their authority is derived from the consent of the governed.
It never ceases to amaze me how much fake "patriots" such as yourself who claim to love this country but actually hate everything it stands for, prattle on without knowing the first thing about the principles by which we were founded. The next lie I'm sure you'll be telling is that this country was founded on "Judeo-Christian" principles, when in fact the founders were overwhlemingly non-Christian and non-Jewish.
I say this because the "Christian nation" lie is a favorite of the rightwingnut phonies, who when confronted with the historical fact that the founders were Deists, simply lie about the whole thing. They'll take quotes out of context from Deists, who were pro-religion but were not Christians, or they'll willfully ignore Deist beliefs and portray them as Christians when in fact they were not.
So, L, I say you're ignorant and that you hate your country. Stupidity and arrangance are a dangerous combination, as anyone who looks at the Liar in Chief can attest.
Oh, one other thing: When you write that I condemn the military, that's another lie. I have never done so, and do not do so. Frankly, L., you are so hooked on lying that you wouldn't know the truth if it stepped onto your elevator and farted.
Posted by Wilson Kolb at November 25, 2005 07:04 PM
Yeah, great Winston, jump in and talk smack about a guy who just had his daughter murdered. I'm sure you know all the facts. Are you one of those morons who believes that women who are raped asked for it? You're disgusting.
Posted by B at November 26, 2005 05:37 AM
Wilson, you're an idiot! This is not the forum for your diarrhea mouth! If you want to talk politics, go to Sean Hannity's site where they expect your kind of crap. I pity your sour soul!
Posted by Heartbroken at December 6, 2005 11:00 PM
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