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Exactly, do they all think we were born yesterday? That we can't remember where we were 10 yrs ago? I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when DEFCON changed for Desert Storm and where I was for the initial attacks. I remember the news stories from Iraq, Iran, and North Korea for the last 15 yrs, including all the intel messages I could digest. I remember where I was on Sept 11, and where I was when the WTC was first bombed.
Anyone who thinks any of these three countries was not actively working towards our downfall, and mayhem against our interests is not privy to the facts and ignores completely the regular official newspaper stories printed by these countries own press for the last 20 yrs.
I haven't forgotten. I won't forget. And nothing anyone else says will make me forget the rotten words of contempt they have all espoused against us.
Words have meaning. If you say you intend to kill Americans, frequently, violently, and without provocation, I take you at your word. Don't be surprised when our country decides to kill you first.
Subsunk
Posted by Subsunk at October 26, 2005 01:43 AM
Subsunk:
Of course the only ones we HAVE NOT killed are the ones WITH the WMDs! The ones without them are dying like crazy. So, think of what we have trained the world to do. We have trained them to get WMDs as fast as you can because once you have them, America will do nothing. Hell, we are pulling troops out of South Korea (on the border with a known lunatic who has WMDs) to put them into Iraq.
So, Iran has learned this lesson. They will develop WMDs and then they will get the respect of America like North Korea has. Your argument makes intellectual sense but does not tie out to the empirical evidence of what Bush is actually doing.
Posted by kevin at October 26, 2005 10:17 AM
kevin,
The only effective way to stop anyone with a billion dollars from not getting WMD is to convince them that they don't need them.
For 40 years, the US limited those countries that could acquire WMD thru the control of technology exports.
A computer capable of nuclear simulation now costs less than $500 and can be had anywhere in the world.(Shall we stop all worldwide cell phone and computer sales?)
Yellow cake(Uranium) is a waste product of phosphate production.(Shall we stop worldwide production of laundry detergent?)
Centrifuges are a matter of metalurgy and manufacturing(shall we deny the rest of the world the ability to make things from metal?)
As long as Saddam was in power, convincing any of the other countries in the Middle East that they did not NEED WMD was a fools errand. Of course they needed WMD, Saddam would invade a neighbor for no other reason than he felt like it.
Posted by Soldier's Dad at October 26, 2005 12:31 PM
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http://www.federalistjournal.com/fedblog/?p=2574
Posted by The Editors, American Federalist Journal at October 26, 2005 06:10 PM
I noticed that he didn't quote CNN. Were they the only media who didn't buy the hype?
Oh yeah, that's right...per Mr. Eason Jordan, they were doing what Saddam told them to do in order to get access in Iraq.
Posted by Blackfive at October 26, 2005 07:41 PM
As yes, Blackfive, the dean of right-wingers using the Iraq War to push a ultra-conservative Republican agenda in the name of patriotism. From God's lips to his ears. Who would Jesus bomb, Blackfive?
Anyway, since we're looking back on old times, let's examine the Clinton era. Oldies but goodies time. Such as when the Republicans did [i]nothing[/i] but condemn Clinton each and every time he went after Saddam or Bin Laden for anything. Such as when the right wingers spent years and years and years going crazy about the deaths of a couple dozen people in Somalia, and then turned around and say essentially nothing about the 2,000 military deaths and 15,000 wounded in Iraq.
Or how about Kosovo? While the planes were in the air on Day One, the Republicans were all over the airwaves predicting defeat and condemning the action. Not a peep out of them about the absolutely incompetent actions of the top civilian and military leadership in Iraq this time around. Oh, and then there's perjury. Horrible for Clinton to lie about sex, but perfectly okay for Bush, Cheney, Rove and Libby to lie about war and to commit treason by outing a spy.
I'd be glad to stack up Clinton's record against that of this horrible excuse for a president we've got today on ANY policy. On his worst day in office Clinton was a better military commander than George Idiot Bush has ever been. Which is no surprise, given that Bush was a Vietnam-era deserter.
Finally, at long last, the U.S. public is seeing this act for what it is.
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