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Goodrich's father is also a Marine, having served in the Pacific during WWII. Looks like the Lt Governor made the wrong choice when scanning the obituaries for campaign stops.The family of a Marine who was killed in Iraq is furious with Lt. Gov. Catherine Baker Knoll for showing up uninvited at his funeral this week, handing out her business card and then saying "our government" is against the war.
Rhonda Goodrich of Indiana, Pa., said yesterday that a funeral was held Tuesday at a church in Carnegie for her brother-in-law, Staff Sgt. Joseph Goodrich, 32.
She said he "died bravely and courageously in Iraq on July 10, serving his country."
In a phone interview, Goodrich said the funeral service was packed with people "who wanted to tell his family how Joe had impacted their lives."
Then, suddenly, "one uninvited guest made an appearance, Catherine Baker Knoll."
She sat down next to a Goodrich family member and, during the distribution of communion, said, "Who are you?" Then she handed the family member one of her business cards, which Goodrich said she still has.
"Knoll felt this was an appropriate time to campaign and impose her will on us," Goodrich said. "I am amazed and disgusted Knoll finds a Marine funeral a prime place to campaign."
"Our family deserves an apology," Rhonda Goodrich said. "Here you have a soldier who was killed -- dying for his country -- in a church full of grieving family members and she shows up uninvited. It made a mockery of Joey's death."
What really upset the family, Goodrich said, is that Knoll said, 'I want you to know our government is against this war,' " Goodrich said.
Poor Catherine! She may have been (like so many others) taken in by Michael Moore, one of the first to attempt to use funerals of Iraq war vets for his own gain:
The family of U.S. Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone was shocked to learn that video footage of the major's Arlington National Cemetery burial was included by Michael Moore in his movie "Fahrenheit 9/11."But Moore's myth - the portrayal of the fallen in the War on Terror as victims - lives on. It's disappointing but not surprising that the Lt. Governor of Pennsylvania - along with so many others - believes it.
Maj. Stone was killed in March 2003 by a grenade that officials said was thrown into his tent by Sgt. Hasan K. Akbar, who is on trial for murder.
The mother of the major labeled Mr. Moore a "maggot that eats off the dead."
Let's play a game. The source of information for this game is the Southern Poverty Law Center. The game is called Who Am I?
Who am I?
As a lawyer in the 1970's I won a handful of civil-rights related lawsuits, though but my legal career ended in 1979 when I was permanently disbarred for filing suit against a court reporter for being late delivering a document. My State's Supreme Court said I had "little regard for the ethics of [my] profession." (I once sued Sears for $50-million when their local store was several days late delivering a television set.)
In 1986 and 1987 I received three awards for my civil rights cases, including one bestowed by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
In 1988 I supported Al Gore's presidential campaign, hosting his visit to my hometown.
In 1990 I ran for governor of Kansas in the Democratic primaries, but lost with 11,634 votes, 6.7% of the total.
In 1991 I began the "Great Gage Park Decency Drive," an attempt to purge a park in my hometown of the homosexuals that were using it as a meeting place.
In 1992 I ran for the U.S. Senate, and gained 30.8% of the ballots cast in the Democratic primary, perhaps due in part to my anti-homosexual efforts. During the campaign I referred to my opponent as a "bull dike".
Who am I? I'm Fred Phelps, and since those days I've become notorious for my "God Hates Fags" campaign. I'm often mistakenly referred to as a right-wing conservative Christian, but the reality is I hate Jerry Falwell too.
And more recently I too have started protesting the funerals of those military members killed in the war on terror..
The Kansas preacher who tried to erect an anti-gay monument in a Boise city park says he's coming to Idaho this week to picket the funeral of a fallen soldier.
Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, says God killed Idaho National Guard Corporal Carrie French with an improvised explosive device. Phelps says God is retaliating against America for a bombing of his church six years ago.
Phelps says there is no reason he is targeting French specifically. He says his church will protest any public funeral of soldiers killed in Iraq.
In January of 1993, Fred Phelps, his wife Marge, Fred Phelps Jr., and Betty Phelps-Schurle were invited to (and attended) the inaugural ball in Washington D.C..
In the ensuing four years, Phelps (and consequently Westboro) turned against Gore for his and Clinton's decided pro-and-neutral stances on homosexuality. Gore nevertheless invited Fred Phelps, Marge, Fred Jr., and Betty back for the 1997 inauguration; they responded by bringing the entirety of Westboro to the White House and picketing on the front lawn during the ball, (report on Phelps' ball picket) with signs proclaiming that Gore, Clinton, and both mens' families were going to hell not necessarily for their stances on homosexuality, but because they had "betrayed" Westboro.
In 1998, Westboro picketed the funeral of Gore's father, screaming vulgarities at Gore and telling him "your dad's in Hell."
Rev. Phelps has run in numerous Democratic primary elections for governor of the state of Kansas in 1992, 1994, and the last time in 1998, when he came in last with 15,000 votes out of a total of over 103,000 votes cast, or 15%.
While Mike Moore got an exalted place at their 2004 convention, it's good to see that the majority of his fellow Democrats now apparently consider Phelps persona non grata for his anti-gay activities. You gotta draw the line somewhere, after all.
As a side note, no one on the Left should be surprised when others don't think it's funny that their first attack on Supreme Court nominee John Roberts involves questioning his sexual orientation. Yes, you're only joking, heh. Chuckle. We get it. That whole "gay" thing is no big deal to the Left.
When they have the funeral for the Democratic Party, I don't think I'll go.
The Governor, however, has been seen in Mudville before, when he refused to extend the absentee ballot deadline for troops serving overseas in the war on terror prior to last year's Presidential election.
Update 2: The Governor responds quickly.
'I want you to know our government is against this war'
Our? Whose? Certainly not the one Lincoln referred to as 'of the people, by the people'. Do they understand 'consent of the governed'? Do they view themselves as the 'legitimate government in exile' since Novemeber 2004 or 2000?
It's appearent they believe their own propaganda. The first step to recovery is to admit you have a serious problem.Posted by Don at July 24, 2005 03:15 PM
Phelps is a class act. He showed up yesterday in Omaha at medic Tricia Jameson's funeral. She was recently killed by an IED in Iraq. Utterly shameful.Posted by tommy at July 24, 2005 03:17 PM
I dunno about not going to the funeral of the Democrat Party. Maybe we should all go and pass out business cards and tell the mourners that we were always against what they were doing.Posted by Peter at July 24, 2005 03:36 PM
I wasn't always against the Democrats - but really can't say exactly when they left me behind.
What do these three have in common? They're Democrats who demean the members of the American military.
Wait - as Dick Durbin demonstrated, that's redundant.
They're Democrats. That says it all.Posted by Angry at July 24, 2005 03:43 PM
These democrats are giving ambulance chasers a bad name! The morons have become hearse-chasers. Eventually they'll catch the hearse, look inside, and see themselves.Posted by Ambulance Chaser at July 24, 2005 04:18 PM
Great post, Greyhawk. Last Nov. I voted for Democrats for a couple of county offices. But next time it will be straight ticket Republican (and I used to be a Democrat). I want to punish the Democrat party for holding these twisted individuals in such prominence.
And how does a politician with the complete lack of social skills that the Lt Gov demonstrated even get elected?Posted by Stace at July 24, 2005 04:19 PM
Frankly, it surprises me that Fred Phelps is still alive. Don't get me wrong: I think it'd be terrible if someone did kill him, not least because it'd make him a martyr to his loony disciples. But considering the hate he spews, and the emotional states of some of the people at whom he spews it .. . well, I'm just a little surprised that no one has snapped.Posted by Matt at July 24, 2005 04:22 PM
Not Fair! Phelp's antics should in no way reflect on the hard working, dedicated, and wholly honest members of the Democratic Party, for whom I'm proud to be a trailblazing flagbearer!Posted by Michael Moore at July 24, 2005 04:28 PM
I wish I could write to the family of Staff Sgt. Joseph Goodrich. I feel so awful about them having such a leach show up during their time of grief.
I want them to know I know Joseph didn't die in vain!Posted by Carolynn Gockel at July 24, 2005 04:33 PM
Nice try guys. But why not try honesty instead?
Phelps yustabe a democrat. Big deal. Lots of people yustabe democrats. Some left the party on their own volition. Some, like Phelps, are shunned because of who they have become.
The honest thing to do is to recognize Phelp's real identity now. And if you want to smear and castigate a group, because Phelps is part of them, then recognize that the group that deserves smearing and castigating is fundamentalist Christians.
Where are the outraged posters declaring "I wont set foot in another church until the christian movement unambiguously denouces this psycho."Posted by Observer at July 24, 2005 05:04 PM
Observer: the Christian movement *has* unambiguously denounced Phelps. For example, I did so in my Sunday School class just a few weeks ago. So why do you want to smear and castigate fundamentalist Christians?Posted by Rory Daulton at July 24, 2005 05:13 PM
Christians do denounce this psycho. He is an abomination, whether he is from the right or left.
Who was the last democrat that denounced anti-military bigots who blame the soldiers for the policy?
*cricket chirping*Posted by A soldier and a Christian at July 24, 2005 05:42 PM
Fellow Pennsylvanians, please let our state "leaders", Ed and Catherine, know what we think about "our government's" oppostion to the war in Iraq. Democrats like Baker Knoll, unfortunely, ensure more casualties in Iraq and Afganistan.Posted by fastfreddie at July 24, 2005 06:55 PM
I am an evangelical Christian, and I hereby wholeheartedly denounce Phelps and his tactics.
There. Feel better?Posted by KSM at July 24, 2005 07:00 PM
Our Jewish Community Center ina a city of 150,000 is headed by a transgendered person who supports the war.
Can I pile on too?Posted by M. Simon at July 24, 2005 07:41 PM
"And if you want to smear and castigate a group, because Phelps is part of them, then recognize that the group that deserves smearing and castigating is fundamentalist Christians.
Posted by Observer at July 24, 2005 05:04 PM
From the story: ..."I'm often mistakenly referred to as a right-wing conservative Christian, but the reality is I hate Jerry Falwell too."
Are you sure observer is your real name? The post above went to great detail to explain that Democats have disowned Phelps too.
Regarding the comments on Lt. Gov. Catherine Baker Knoll, the story is more likely a smear campaign (also known as some Republican is lying again) started by Republicans.
A funeral is not an appropriate time to discuss the failings of the Repubican Political leadership with respect to the war in Iraq, and if Knoll did, then shame on her. I'd also wonder about her political sensibilities in that case.
There are plenty of reasons and opportunities to discuss Republican incompetence in both the prosecutio of the war in Iraq, and its selection as the next step in the war on terror.Posted by Ghost Dansing at July 24, 2005 11:40 PM
Of course, the sole source for that article about Knoll is a rightwing Republican activist.
But, such facts must be ignored.Posted by Geek, Esq. at July 25, 2005 12:11 AM
Anyone who's interested in who Phelps is, read this:
I'd advise you to read it anyway, it's one of the most horrifying and facinating documents I've ever read. An amazing portrait of the true banality and idiocy of raw evil.Posted by Amos at July 25, 2005 01:47 AM
I'm ashamed of my once great country. It's gotten to the point where someone can't take a dump in the pews during a soldier's funeral without becoming victim of a smear campaign. Time to move to Canada!Posted by Doc at July 25, 2005 10:22 AM
"I'm ashamed of my once great country. It's gotten to the point where someone can't take a dump in the pews during a soldier's funeral without becoming victim of a smear campaign. Time to move to Canada!"
It seems a lot of people who said they're moving to Canada if Bush wins the election again. Guess what they're still here!!
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS DOC. I'll even help you move to Canada!Posted by Mike D at July 25, 2005 02:03 PM
I read these comments, republican vs. democrat and wonder. I have considered myself an independent for many years. I voted for Ford, Reagan, and Bush Sr. among many other republicans. I could not think of voting for Bush Jr. From time to time, when the issues warranted, I voted for a Democrat for an office. But, one thing has changed my voting. As I rose through the corporate ranks to senior management, it was very evident that one of the hidden platforms for those running on the Republican ticket is to safeguard the holders of wealth in this country. This is why the independent business owners can no longer fight the "big box" companies. There are many more considerations in an election which some here don't seem to realize. If you are going to vote a straight ticket, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Make sure you know why you are voting for one party. Learn the difference between the left vs. right and conservative vs. liberal. The terms are not synonymous!! Because someone voted for one democrat or one republican does not put them in some general class. One party is in no position to point fingers at a member of the other party. Those running for an office have their own agenda. You need to sort out the worst of two evils, and that is a sad state for this country.Posted by independent at July 25, 2005 03:12 PM
We could use a third party. Independent said it, and it needs to be heard. This country is so torn these days. It's either conservative or liberal, democratic or republican. I used to simply neglect all the republican/conservatives, but it's important to understand and learn from every point of view. Don't use information to bash the other guy, use it to help your guy if you could. You must have noticed by now that every campaign ad on tv or in the newspaper says something bad about their opponent instead of some productively sound of their own karma. We have to mend the tears in this country's fabric, lest is succomb to revolution in this form or that. (like it already isn't...)Posted by Mick J. at August 24, 2005 07:41 PM
Independent & Mick J nailed it. People who call themselves Democrat or Republican, Conservative or Liberal, effectively excuse themselves from any critical thinking. I admit, it is much easier to not have to think about issues for yourself, to let Rush Limbaugh or Michael Moore tell you where you stand on everything. But any truly objective observer is going to figure out that the middle-ground, moderate politicans who evaluate each issue independently rather than blindly follow an ideology, are the best leaders.
John McCain is a great Senator. George W. Bush is a horrible president. To an idealogue, those statements seem contrary. To an independent thinker, the truth in both is obvious.
In fact, I find it helpful to spend time at both liberal & conservative sites/blogs just to see the perspective each side has, although most are so rabidly partisan it can be difficult to glean a whole lot of useful information.