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What a clown.
It is always good to see well done whack-a-mole treatment of another defeatist.
I trackbacked with some fine words for the anti-war protestors at the University of Wisconsin from my buddy Kev in Iraq with the WI Guard. Blue Skies to 1/128 INF.
Cordially,
Uncle J
Posted by Uncle Jimbo at April 22, 2005 06:32 PM
Here's a map. This proves we're losing. Here's a picture of a horse. This proves cars will never catch on. Here's a picture of a frog wrapped in tinfoil riding a bicycle. Fire Rumsfeld.
Posted by shop target at April 22, 2005 06:37 PM
A guy at work told me his sister's husband's mother's hairdresser knows about some dude who said his neighbor's cable guy said his cousin's best buddy from High School was in Iraq or Afghanistan or something and half the toilets in camp are stopped up.
But Fox News just reports on the Pope.
Posted by Chuckles at April 22, 2005 07:00 PM
Victor Davis Hanson has a good article today in the National Review Online.
"Winning the War, But don't forget the rules of the strange conflict!"
http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson042205.html
Posted by Keith, Indianapolis at April 22, 2005 07:07 PM
Steve's "Analysis" (in italics) and my reply:
Now, the warbloggers, who are fuzzy on the details of the actual war, like to believe that we're winning in Iraq. They're about the only ones who do.
Funny, it seems people like Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, etc. are no longer discussing Iraq. I wonder why? Even the spate of media "what if Bush was right?" articles disproves his assertions that we warblogger are misguided.
A quick glance at the Iraq Order of Battle shows NG units carrying a major portion of the fighting.
Where's the map? How can I glance at it? Even if NG units are baring the brunt in the Order of Battle, what does this prove?
And notice something else: all roads lead to Baghdad. So if you wage a road denial campaign against the US military, every attack in Baghdad has a multiplier. Because it slows down the whole network.
Is that supposed to be intelligent and insightful? I still don't know what that means.
You have declining enlistments, recruiters going AWOL, up to 5000 desertions, massive complaints about equipment and supply.
Sources would be nice, but since he isn't discussing facts, I won't ask for them. Soldiers always complain about equipment and supply, the day they stop is the day we have real problems.
The scarest military resource is not armor, but trained combat infantry.
I'll agree that we need more infantry units in the active Army, but wasn't the leftist war-cry last fall the lack of armor for troops, including armored Hummers? Now armor is secondary? Which is it?
If dadmanly didn't do such a fine job at fisking that post, it would have been a fun project.
It is humorous to read people that have no idea about military matters discuss them in an "expert fashion", in their minds at least. It is sad when the KOSsacks get a hold of it and treat it as intelligent.
Stevie-O's nonsensical post is the result of needing to blame everything on BushChimpler.
Posted by Bill Roggio at April 22, 2005 07:13 PM
As to the availability of unexploded ordnance in the follow on emails between Dadmanly and Steve, let me say this:
I lived on Okinawa in 62-64. even in 3rd grade, I was made aware of what could be foound. Oh, yeah...there was an armed force of a soverign nation there, who did surrender. I found a grenade and some rifle rounds.
I lived on Guam in 67-71. I found several things, but the largest was the 8" naval gun projectile, on a hill on the side of the Orote Point Airfield (It was a Japanese airbase, but the US didn't use it), which was the peninsula around Apra Harbor. All those years after WWII, there was ordnace laying around in the "boonies" where a war had been.
We didn't get lectures on fireworks safety back then and there, we got the EOD techs with the posters of kids with lost hands because they decided to play with this stuff.
Iraq has had a few wars in the last two decades...surely some of the ordnance came from there....
Posted by Curt at April 22, 2005 07:28 PM
Heck, never mind WWII EOD being discovered, how's this for perspective...
http://www.archaeology.org/9611/newsbriefs/civilwar.html
A cache of 63 unexploded Civil War-era mortar bombs has been discovered by sport divers in Mirror Lake, near Calais, Vermont. Arthur Cohn, director of the Lake Champlain Maritime Museum, working with Towney Anderson, a state historic preservation officer, in cooperation with other state and federal agencies, recovered the ammunition, which was still live. Three years ago the same divers found a cache of 93 bombs, which were determined to be a hazard and destroyed by the police.
While that was in 1996, today a cannon shell was found in Vicksburg.
http://www.picayuneitem.com/articles/2005/04/22/news/06shell.txt
Workers digging a trench for a new sewer line in Vicksburg have unearthed an unexploded Civil War-era cannon shell.
The shell was found Wednesday in the front yard of a home in the Wildwood neighborhood.
An ordnance disposal team from Camp Shelby removed the shell.
L.W. "Bump" Callaway, director of Warren County Emergency Management, said finding leftover explosives from the 1863 siege of Vicksburg isn't uncommon, but he said folks should be cautious because many such rounds are unstable.
Posted by Keith, Indianapolis at April 22, 2005 08:32 PM
Beg to report, sir, that the veterans, both In Country, and others, have arrived, and are carrying the fight to the foe... The horse's mouth, as it were, with the whole danged cavalry with 'em... (and one slightly confused Marine... That would be me... Where'd all the horses come from?)
Cheers!
Posted by Sgt. B. at April 22, 2005 08:37 PM
Oh, yes, and don't forget areas of France that are still unavailable, due to UXO from WWI.
Then take a trip to the "no more land mines" world and know they were sown in many places, and still manage to take tooes, a foot or worse even now in SE Asia, as well as other places around the world....
Posted by Curt at April 22, 2005 08:47 PM
Damn armchair generals. He should ask the folks who've been there what's what. But of course, we're all brainwashed drones so what do we know....?
Posted by armynurseboy at April 22, 2005 09:45 PM
Now look at all the traffic you've given this attention seeking anti-war degenerate. It's no different than the jerk with the forsakethetroops site. Don't give him the added traffic for one thing he makes more money that way on his ads.
Posted by Toni at April 22, 2005 11:08 PM
I read Steve's post and scanned through some of the comments. I don't know what's worse: that someone like Steve can turn few facts and poor logic into a rationalization of US defeat in Iraq, or that so many others are so willing to believe it.
Posted by Enigma at April 22, 2005 11:47 PM
Steve does indeed suffer 'blogorrhea' (Diarrhea of the keyboard, combined with constipation of thought). Another self-taught 'expert' with absolutely no personal experience with the subject matter. Something along the lines of the new Pope writing a travel guide to the best 'red light' districts in Italy.
Posted by Mike O at April 23, 2005 04:00 PM
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