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Please try to get us more details on this spectacular waste of life by the bad guys. We only get the news that we lost guys and gals but it seems to be politically incorrect to count dead bad guys! y1k
Posted by Y1k at April 2, 2005 10:29 PM
"It wasn't immediately clear if any of the insurgents carrying out the attack were arrested or suffered casualties."
Uh, OK! They attacked in force a fortified position manned by soldiers and Marines and it wasn't immediately clear if they suffered any casualties. heh!
And my other car is a gold plated Rolls! ;-)
Posted by JarheadDad at April 2, 2005 11:33 PM
I'm willing to bet there's a few guys wondering why the hell their 72 virgins (or grapes) aren't showing up...
Posted by Max at April 3, 2005 12:25 AM
Abu Ghraib is haunted ground and should be given up to Iraqi forces.
Posted by Collin Baber at April 3, 2005 05:43 AM
>> Abu Ghraib is haunted ground and should be given up to Iraqi forces.
Huh? What are you smokin' - cuz what ever it is, either it's not enough, or it's too much!
Posted by Xe at April 3, 2005 09:33 AM
Is it me, or are the "Insurgents" having recruitment problems?
Posted by Paul Moore at April 3, 2005 07:31 PM
Excerpt from article currently posted on Fox:
"On Sunday, U.S. military officials raised the casualty toll from 20 to 44 U.S. soldiers and Marines wounded.
"Lt. Col. Guy Rudisill said one attacker was killed in the clash, but none were detained. He didn't give further details."
Couldn't reach the MSNBC page linked.
Posted by malclave at April 4, 2005 01:19 AM
so glib, but maybe they have more balls than you give them credit for. 44 wounded (im sure most lightly), but still, they are trying to hit right at the center. Are you old enough to remember Tet or do you just swallow all the pap you are told ?
Posted by neologic at April 4, 2005 03:51 AM
It sounds like they are trying to score a significant propaganda victory, somewhere. If we assume, that the large numbers of attackers who were repelled by the Kentucky National Guard and this incident are part of a pattern, then the pattern looks like an attempt to create a propaganda coup, first by taking hostages (failed) and now by a prison break.
The interesting thing here is they are risking significantly larger numbers in these attacks. So, are they taking advantage of a huge number of recruits and don't mind losing up to 30 or more at a time; OR, are they desperately trying to regain lost momentum from the recent elections?
Thoughts, anyone?
Posted by BattleofthePyramids at April 4, 2005 04:04 AM
Straight from the source...
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/media-information/april/050404a.htm
BAGHDAD, Iraq – Soldiers and Marines successfully repelled a well-coordinated attack by 40-60 terrorists on Forward Operating Base Abu Ghraib April 2 at about 7 p.m. Abu Ghraib is a detention facility for 3,400 detainees as well as an Iraqi-run prison.
In an attempt to gain access to the prison, terrorists launched a simultaneous attack in multiple locations using indirect fires, rocket-propelled grenade fire, small arms fire and a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device. Just as the sun was setting, indirect fire from 81 mm and 120 mm mortars began impacting the operating base. This was followed by multiple RPG attacks and a large volume of small arms fire focused on two guard towers, one on the northwestern and the other on the southeastern corner on the operating base. Using the cover of the mortar fire and the intense fire on the guard towers, the terrorists launched a VBIED to penetrate the perimeter wall near the southeastern guard tower. Marines defending the base returned fire and the VBIED exploded before it reached the perimeter. Marines in the tower were forced to evacuate but were quickly reinforced by a quick reaction force.
The terrorists, using residential areas for cover and concealment, then conducted a ground assault towards the southeastern tower. With reinforcements from the quick reaction force, Marines and Soldiers halted the advance of the terrorists. Additionally, Apache helicopters and artillery fire began to engage the remnants of the attackers. The terrorists were forced to withdraw after suffering an estimated 50 casualties. The attack was over by 9 p.m.
US forces sustained seven wounded who were evacuated to a combat support hospital and sixteen minor injuries from shrapnel who have been returned to duty.
Additionally, thirteen detainees were also wounded from indirect fire, and all detainees remained accounted for.
Posted by Keith, Indianapolis at April 4, 2005 02:22 PM
It sounds like the terrorists got nothing for their trouble.
Funny, but the way the MSM put it, the terrorists won a victory and are definitely getting stronger. And what idiot would compare this pitiful whimper to the Tet offensive? Clearly someone who knows nothing about either Iraq or Tet.
Posted by Ron Cooper at April 4, 2005 04:25 PM
An evocation is not a comparison, and who would think so ? Clearly someone who knows nothing about either rhetoric or PR.
An echo may only be 1000th the power of the sound, but it's identity is clear.
Posted by Neo Logic at April 4, 2005 06:59 PM
Woah.
Posted by Keanu Reeves at April 4, 2005 09:28 PM
Forty (OK, 40-60) terrorists withdraw after suffering (approximately) fifty casualties. Cool.
Does the _reporting_ sound like Tet?
Posted by Larry Knerr at April 5, 2005 12:44 AM
did_the_pope_die_during_Tet ?
Bad_luck_for_terrorists
Intent_clear_as_day
Lets_hope_one_of_last_gasps
Posted by neologic at April 5, 2005 03:26 AM
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