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February 09, 2005

Rescued Egyptian Hostages

Greyhawk

John Lucas of Knoxville Tn., emails to clarify events surrounding the resue of Egyptian hostages by US soldiers. I've added links to the text below, otherwise, since Mr Lucas' son was one of those soldiers involved in the rescue, we'll let him take it from here:

The Reuters report that you posted on the kidnapped Egyptians who supposedly escaped on their own from the trunk of a car is not accurate. I know, because my son and his platoon freed them and captured two (not one per the Reuthers report) of their kidnappers. The Egyptians may be slow to give credit to the U. S. Military for rescuing its citizens. The truth is that a hostage was not freed by the kidnappers. An article describing it appears in today's Knoxville News Sentinel.

It began when my son, leading a patrol, saw a suspicious car. They pulled it over, captured two of the three kidnappers and found two Egyptians bound and gagged in the trunk. Interrogation of the two prisoners let to intel re the location of the other two hostages and another US unit raided that location and freed them.

There is much more to this story, but I wanted you to know that they were not "released" but were rescued as a result of a heads-up effort by U.S. soldiers.

Here is what went unreported. I asked my son why they had not just shot the two who ran away (one of whom was chased down and captured). I thought that perhaps the Rules of Engagement prevented them from shooting them, since they had not been shot at first. He told me, however, that the ROE did permit them to shoot, but he never gave them a "fire" command because the street was too crowded and he was worried that they might hit civilians. So, instead, they chased them down. As a result of that decision, civilian lives were spared and all 4 hostages were rescued. It's a great example of good decision-making, good fire discipline, and concern for the people. But, not the sort of thing the media seems to want to report.

John Lucas
Knoxville, TN

Thanks for the heads-up sir! I always appreciate it when those with close knowledge of events contribute to the discussion. I really can't guess whether Reuters is guilty of slanted reporting or sloppy reporting, either way it says a lot for their credibility. Likewise since the story appeared in the LA Times I can't tell whether their editors gave it a "once over" prior to publishing. Your son's story is a great one - time was when competing newspapers would be falling over one another trying to get the "exclusive". Now a few sloppy paragraphs poorly fact-checked seem to be the best we can get from the "pros".

For those who missed it, here's how Reuters reported the story in the LA Times as Mr Lucas referenced above:

U.S. forces in Iraq stormed a house in Baghdad on Monday and freed two of the four Egyptian telecommunications engineers who were kidnapped Sunday, the head of their Egyptian parent company said.

Naguib Sawiris, chairman of Egypt's Orascom Telecom, said U.S. troops raided a villa, possibly in the mainly Sunni Muslim district of Adhamiya, and freed the two. The other two managed to escape on their own from a car they had been locked in, he added.

Not even close.

Kudos to you and your family, Mr Lucas. Enjoy that upcoming R & R, I hope your son returns soon, safe, and proud.

Update: For balance, this email from reporter Jules Crittenden (who did his own time as an embed in the invasion of Iraq). He makes points with which I sympathize:

Greyhawk, I hate to be in a position of defending anyone in this crappy, thankless profession of mine, but all of us are only as good as the available information. Regarding the Reuters report, it looks like they were given bad information from someone they could reasonablly expect to be an informed source...the Egyptian media company exec. We don't know whether they tried or were able to confirm anything with the military. Trying to nail down fast breaking news and crosscheck from a variety of sources on deadline can be difficult and problematic, and conditions are not always ideal. Theoretically, that's why newspapers come out daily, so what was missed or messed up the day before can be fixed today. It would be nice if we could sit on everything and do exhaustive reports every time, but then it wouldn't be news any more. Regarding editors in LA, it's not clear whether they had a reasonable opportunity to know there was a problem with the wire copy.

Absent evidence of purposeful manipulation, we have to give Reuters the benefit of a doubt. If I've missed that evidence somewhere in the postings on this, then disregard the above.

Thanks again for a great site.

Jules Crittenden

(Note: in an earlier version of this post I refered to Jules as a Marine vet - that was my mistake, he's never claimed any veteran status and was quick to contact me and point this out. Sorry Jules!)

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