I grieve for the losses they endured.

But sadly they surrender. Terrorism is based on terror since the name. They thrive on fear. And it seems many of Spain have given them what they wanted.

I'll be voting. And I say smash them before they Smash. The reign of terror must end. If nothing else so that the people shown here can sleep at night.

I find it useful to remember that right wingers all over the world were waiting for us to come out of our Clinton madness. Today we're waiting for Germany to repudiate Schroeder. Friends wait, and as they've waited for us, now we must wait for them and try to limit the damage.

A question that needs to be explored is what, if any, is the relationship between Al Queda and the Spanish Socialist Party?
We now know that an oil contract relationship existed between Saddam Hussein and UN officials, a member of the UK Parliment, various officials in countries opposed to the anti-Iraq coalition, former weapons inspector Scott Ritter and even a US congressman.
Was there collusion between the Socialists and Al Queda in the Madrid bombings?

A question that needs to be explored is what, if any, is the relationship between Al Queda and the Spanish Socialist Party?
We now know that an oil contract relationship existed between Saddam Hussein and UN officials, a member of the UK Parliment, various officials in countries opposed to the anti-Iraq coalition, former weapons inspector Scott Ritter and even a US congressman.
Was there collusion between the Socialists and Al Queda in the Madrid bombings?

A question that needs to be explored is what, if any, is the relationship between Al Queda and the Spanish Socialist Party?
We now know that an oil contract relationship existed between Saddam Hussein and UN officials, a member of the UK Parliment, various officials in countries opposed to the anti-Iraq coalition, former weapons inspector Scott Ritter and even a US congressman.
Was there collusion between the Socialists and Al Queda in the Madrid bombings?

A question that needs to be explored is what, if any, is the relationship between Al Queda and the Spanish Socialist Party?
We now know that an oil contract relationship existed between Saddam Hussein and UN officials, a member of the UK Parliment, various officials in countries opposed to the anti-Iraq coalition, former weapons inspector Scott Ritter and even a US congressman.
Was there collusion between the Socialists and Al Queda in the Madrid bombings?

Interesting, brad, but I doubt if there was active collusion. However, I do believe that the socialist party members probably started planning their victory party before the election was over- because they knew they would be the ones to profit from the terror.

In my mind this makes them worse than the terrorists. If they wanted to earn the respect of the world, they would stand together and say "before the bombings we were in favor of removing our troops- but now you've kicked the sleeping dog".

Instead they get on their knees. Or at least they will when they get done celebrating the deaths of their countymen that put them into power.

Pathetic.

If they pull out of Iraq, they should redeploy double the troops to Afghanistan.

Poland has already stepped up to the plate and offered to replace the Spanish troops. (Poland paid the price for the cowards who embraced Hitler.) No surprise there.

And, yes, Spain fell to Franco in 1937. Or 1930. George Orwell fought on the side of democracy, then. He wrote eloquently about the loss of a country to Franco. But there are no surprises, here, either.

The Spanish are saying it's okay for America to take hits. And, I do suspect, if AL-quada sees how the socialists just got into power, they've been handed a two-fer. They can always blow up parts of Spain, should the populace decide rewarding socialists/terrorists is just a stupid game of postponements. But we should expect terror back, here. (In America.) I have no doubt that Kerry isn't popular enough to win. That only about 18 states are in question. And, that's what's going to explode? Heck, maybe Miami will get it? They have Jews (a well-loved target for Islamic fundamentalists.) And, they have votes that were once diverted to butterflies. (Thank goodness. Giving this Bush the presidency.)

My guess is that Americans, come November, when we vote, will make the jaws drop in Spain. I think this president will be re-elected. And, that he must pass through trials of fire? Well, how else did Lincoln get recorded in the history books as one of our greatest presidents? We're always tested in the crucible. Our Founding Fathers didn't shirk their responsibilities when it came to defining our Republic.

As to Spain, even with the votes, the socialists still have to deal with a parliament where they don't make up the majority. And, if they're on a thin margin, and buyer's remorse sets in, whose to say they stay in power? Parliaments can be sucker punched every day of the week.

Which is another reason I am forever grateful to our Founding Fathers. Our system is much more stable than anything found elsewhere.

That the Spaniards rushed to surrender before the French? Well, if history repeats itself, it's just like the last time. Only this time in farce. Spain fell to Franco before the French fell to Hitler. Let them wave their white flags. See if I care.

Spain has just said to terrorists: "An attack before an election will work."

Expect to see more. Here too, if they can manage it. And I don't trust our 'Homeland Security' so much that I believe they can't.

I recently read some Euro-torial about how Americans were those Europe didn't want and how we are barbarians because of it. He was wrong. Our ancestors (and ourselves in some cases) are now from almost every country in the world. And if those countries didn't want us, we didn't want them either.

We aren't barbarians. We are rats who deserted the sinking ships worldwide. We came to the last safe place and found out it wasn't safe either.
'They' attacked our safe place. Have you ever dealt with a cornered rat? I made that mistake once (luckily I learn fast and I MOVED). I hung around a lot of "lefty sites" immediately post-Sept 11. They were no less out for blood than the right... then. Hit them immediately before an election, before their 'progressive' instincts take over, and they're as Jacksonian as the right.

Don't mess with America. You think we are scary now? We can be much worse. I'm not a neocon, they are nice, comparatively. I'm one of Den Beste's Jacksonians. Don't mess with us.

What occurred in Spain (terrorism deaths) can be expected in most free countries these days. What happened to the heart of the Spainiard in reaction is the real tragedy. They are not worthy of the blood that was spilled to make them free nor the blood spilled to perpetuate that most sacred liberty - freedom. I do suspect inquiries will be made by the new ruling party, as to how they may change their official language to "french" and their military uniforms to yellow. A tragedy indeed!

What is so frightening to me about the socialist election victory in Spain is that a country that has been allowed to prosper under the protection of American military power via NATO, is so quick to turn its back on us. This seems to be a sentiment that is EU-wide. I hope it isn't. The EU wouldn't be today if it hadn't been shielded from outside threats by the US. It seems as though the Spaniards have cried "Uncle!" having taken just one shot from a bully. Neville Chamberlain would have been proud of them.
It was a horrible loss that they suffered. But do they really think they're going to be any safer in the long run by cutting and running like this?

The appeasement of Spain in the face of the murder of their citizens has demonstrated to al-Qaeda the effectiveness of slaughter in impacting the electoral process. al-Qaeda won with terror: the spanards are withdrawing from Iraq. Clearly, this response to terror, appeasement, has created greater danger for every country in the immediate period before elections, especially Iraq. While much of the focus and analysis in the media has been on the increased danger to Europe and the US, the Iraqis I fear are also in a greater jeopardy. Emboldened and victorious, this tactic is sure to be repeated. There is no other democracy more threatening to al-qaeda than an Iraqi democracy.

I'd like to point out that the election in Spain was close, especially considering the turnout of the coward vote. So let's not make things tougher for our Spanish brothers in arms by insulting the whole country-after all, look how many here oppose GWB for doing the right thing!

What we need to point out to the fearful is that the ONLY peace the Bad Guys will grant them is the peace of the grave.