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Years ago when Reagan was president, the Military got permission to just kick guys out who were a pain in the ass. Not a lot of paperwork or judicial proceedings. We selected some people to dump from our Navy squadron. We told this one guy he was history and we were processing him out, and, in the meantime he would have to stay in the disciplinary barracks until the paperwork was done in a week or so. While in those barracks he started a fire in a garbage can. The military takes a very dim view of arson in living quarters. As I recall, he got seven years hard labor. That wins the prize for stupidity.
Posted by Dan at February 24, 2004 03:47 AM
The only stories I can tell would relate to the behavior of my fellow airman (and myself) in Korea, drunk from too much SoJu. But we couldn't publish such stories (in their entirety) on a family blog.
Suffice it to say that "drunk and stupid" especially combined with destruction of gov't property, has always been prosecuted that I know of. This guy got off light, with only 6 months confinement.
Posted by Cas at February 24, 2004 05:28 AM
Stealing, assault, drunk and disorderly, destruction of Government property. I'd say Glick got off pretty light with only a 6 month sentence and a Big Chicken Dinner (BCD).
You have to wonder a bit if this guy was a "problem child" and should have been shown the door sooner. There isn't anything mentioned about past offenses/UCMJ violations.
Last time I had to put the hammer down on anyone
was back in 1990 for grand theft auto, destruction of private property. He got one year in the brig and a BCD.
Posted by jaalinta at February 24, 2004 02:33 PM
Bamberg Germany, 1986-1989, got Drunk many a night. The only stupid things me and my buddies ever did was get into fights.
Nothing ever major, for the most part. None of us would have even thought about stealing a vehicle from the motor pool.
My question is, Where were the guard duty fellas?
Posted by James Stephenson at February 24, 2004 04:43 PM
I spent 3 years in Baumholder Germany and as an MP, dealt with many soldier like PFC Glick. Falling through the fire escape holes on the sides of the barracks was an every weekend thing. The stupidest one was a poor sap out drinking with his buddies in Idar-Oberstein when one of the guys in his group got hit upside the head with a bottle. The injured soldier just wanted to go home and nurse his wounds, but the soldier that ended up getting killed went after the assailant and pulled a knife on him. The bottle thrower, trying to defend himself, took the knife away and stabbed our poor sap in the chest. He died on the table at the Krankenhaus and yours truly had to tell the deceased soldiers wife that he died. That was a rough night and the resluting trial almost kept me stuck in Germany. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Posted by Jonathan Sabin at February 24, 2004 07:37 PM
On the other hand, I had a BIG problem with hard liquor as a 19-20 year-old in Korea, on an island.
So bad that I was singled out -with maybe 5 others- for a short, blunt talk with our CO. Scared sh-tless, I stood at attention while he asked,
"Specialist, you make $265 per month, is that correct?" (Yes, Sir!)
"And club record show you've been drinking more than $220 of that every month, is that correct?"
(.....Sir, yes, Sir.)
"Do you have a problem, Specialist?" (..Yes, Sir.)
"Are you getting rid of this problem, Specialist?"
(Yes, Sir.)
Quietly, then, he asked, "Do you need any help, Son?" And I responded that I would deal with it, immediately.
I never drank again. If I can do it, Glick can do it. I've been dry for 36 years now.
Posted by Sharps Shooter at February 25, 2004 01:30 PM
There were times, when I was a commander, that I wanted to ask the airman I was having to discipline for some idiotic action if he or she actually had his/her brains *with* them when they decided what they did was a real fine idea. When it comes to stupid decisions made while drunk, there is no end to human creativity.
This fellow didn't hurt anyone, so while it seems 6 months is an extremely short time to serve for being such an idiot and destroying so much property, it's probably fair. Plus, he is now a convicted felon. That lasts forever.
Posted by oldcontroller at February 25, 2004 05:14 PM
oldcontroller sez:
>This fellow didn't hurt anyone, so while it
>seems 6 months is an extremely short time to
>serve for being such an idiot and destroying so
>much property, it's probably fair. Plus, he is
>now a convicted felon. That lasts forever.
The original article did state that he headbutted one of the MP's who tried to stop him after he crashed the security gate. Don't know if he broke the MP's nose or not...but getting headbutted ain't fun.
Posted by jaalinta at February 26, 2004 03:03 PM
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