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May 19, 2011

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Damning the flood

By Greyhawk

(No, that's not a typo in that headline.)

The Hill:

Amid passionate calls from Capitol Hill for the Obama administration to get tough with Pakistan after the revelation bin Laden had been hiding there for up to five years, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Wednesday he has seen "no evidence at all that the senior leadership knew."

Not defending the government of Pakistan here, but if Osama bin Laden had been hiding in one of my neighbor's attics I wouldn't have known he was there. And I never wondered whether anyone in the North Carolina government knew Eric Rudolph was hiding in the woods. (If that's an absurd comparison, how so?)

And:

During the same session with reporters, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen urged U.S. government officials to zip up public leaks of information about the commando raid that netted America's most wanted foe.

"We have, from my perspective, gotten to a point where we are close to jeopardizing this precious capability that we have, and we can't afford to do that," Mullen said...

I've seen a few details in media reports that seem innocuous but reveal much to me (I'm not going to highlight them); anyone else with some background in various fields could reach similar conclusions. Get enough such people together (most nations already have such groups) and you learn much. If nothing else, you learn which questions you need answered, and narrowing your focus to the right place goes a long way to successful completion of a search, know what I mean?

There lies the danger in having people who don't know what they're talking about actually talking about something. (See "seems innocuous" above.) The threat of someone doing that can't be eliminated and isn't reduced by comprehensive gag orders. It can be reduced by releasing what can be released - and getting the story right the first time, thus reducing the demand for "what really happened." The Obama administration has a poor track record in that regard - bad enough that it can only be explained as policy, incompetence, or both.

The Obama administration isn't the first to fail at this ("fail" assumes it isn't part of the plan) but "lots of other people have screwed this up in the past, too" is the exact opposite of a good excuse.

Added: I've been meaning to move this up from comments...

Working hypothesis:
"Team Obama" is partial to, and expert in, relying on multiple narratives, for the same factual occurrence, for the purpose of frustrating critical examination of WH actions and policies by consuming the time and credibility of interested parties.
Viewed in this way, the multiplicity of different stories should be seen as a "feature" of this Administration's modus operandi rather than as a "bug".
(see writings by Cass Sunstein: Internet rumors and the reasons, and means to conteract them.)

There's a lot of evidence to support that hypothesis, going back to the April 2009 Afghanistan policy (if not before).



Posted by Greyhawk / May 19, 2011 10:08 AM | Permalink

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Not defending the government of Pakistan here, but if Osama bin Laden had been hiding in one of my neighbor's attics I wouldn't have known he was there. And I never wondered whether anyone in the North Carolina government knew Eric Rudolph was hiding in the woods. (If that's an absurd comparison, how so?)

How so, how about your not a member of the ISI with a proven history of support of the Taliban, and other terrorist groups, neither is the government of North Carolina. If say North Carolina had given moral and material support to Eric Rudolph, then claimed no knowledge of his wereabouts while hiding in the North Carolina woods I would view them with suspicion. Eric Rudolph was a heinous person, but not the most wanted man in the world, I believe it requires the willing suspension of disbelief to swallow the Pakistani line that they knew nothing of his residence there.

I view Pakistan with deep suspicion. I also view them as a necessary ally in our war in Afghanistan.

I believe the more pertinent question is "is the war in Afghanistan necessary?" The only answers I've ever heard from people who actually matter are political talking points. They boil down to "yes" but aren't followed by actions lending support to the notion that anyone actually means it.

As a Vietnam Vet, USMC 68-72, Vietnam 69-70 I have been somewhat uncomfortable concerning Afghanistan. After viewing the documentary "Restrepo" that is no longer the case, I am against the war, I believe it is a total waste of our blood and treasure with the emphasis on blood. I cannot describe the feeling of deja vue that occurred while watching that, it was the Arizona Valley all over again. The Afghan people will decide what they want and we will never create a democracy there. My personal opinion, which I know counts for nothing, is that we should pack up and leave after warning the tribal leaders we will bomb their crops and villages to dust should they support another attack on us. The fact that Pakistan is a "necessary ally" in the war in Afghanistan pretty much says all I need to know about the true need for that war. My thanks and respect for your sacrifice and service.

I think we're both thinking along the same lines.

The thing that keeps me from total despair is the word of the Afghan vets I know, but their combined opinions - like every other factor in the conflict - is dwarfed by a commander in chief who was never committed in deed to what he was capable of putting into words.

At least until he said this: "And as Commander-in-Chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan. After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home." And that's something that should never have been said. It's left to twenty year old Soldiers and Marines to explain that to Afghan villagers - because it's the Taliban that are using the quote to their benefit.

Meanwhile the guy who said it is going on (mostly by proxy) about how unreliable a partner Pakistan is, how corrupt Karzai is, and how the whole thing was Bush's mess (translation: not my fault) in the first place. Put yourself in Karzai's place, or any Pakistani's place, and how would you respond to all that "messaging"?

In early 2009 it looked like Obama had the wind of public support at his back re: Afghanistan, but I now believe his direction was 180 from where he said he was going, and those winds have shifted - or just gone dead calm. Well played for domestic political results, but not so on the national security front.


Concerning the leaking either intentionally or unintentionly of important data and facts about the raid on Usama's compound and the way decisions are made specifically concerning the use of our military by the current administration, I believe that political considerations are the sole deciding factor in their decisions. I'm sure that all politicians factor in how their decisions will affect them politically at some point in their decision making, however this administration seems to use the political outcome as the only factor in their military decisions. This why we get a surge tied to a withdrawal date, a top secret raid conducted with great skill by the warriors involved but diarrhea of the mouth from the administration more concerned with capitalizing on the outcome than protecting the intelligence and methods used to achieve that outcome.

"I believe that political considerations are the sole deciding factor in their decisions. I'm sure that all politicians factor in how their decisions will affect them politically at some point in their decision making, however this administration seems to use the political outcome as the only factor in their military decisions."

Read Obama's National Security Adviser's biography here and "Path to Power" tab here. The man is eminently qualified to stage-manage a political campaign. His nat'l sec bonafides - such as they are - stem from filling posts that were rewards for his roles in political campaigns.

I know that's how government is run, but the NSA position has historically been an exception. Not to say the individual holding it hasn't been a political lightning rod through its relatively brief history - just that agree with those individuals or not they've previously brought qualifications to the office. The lack of Senate advise and consent on the appointment that once kept it somewhat apolitical (at least as much as possible) has now been used to get a guy who couldn't survive a Senate hearing (see Fannie Mae in bio) an upper-tier position.

Obviously Obama gets to pick who he wants. And Donilon is fully qualified to hold the office as Barack Obama defines it. That tells us something about the president's approach to national security issues, and confirms your point above.

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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004