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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! May 2, 2011 "Here's your head shot, Mr bin Laden"By Greyhawk"The Obama administration has photographs of Osama bin Laden's dead body and officials are debating what to do with them and whether they should be released to the public, officials tell ABC News." Jake Tapper: The argument against releasing the pictures: they're gruesome. He has a massive head wound above his left eye where he took bullet, with brains and blood visible. Which leads me to believe this is indeed the picture they're debating releasing. It's been out for a while now... (In my humble opinion it's not quite as gruesome as that description - or what you'd probably imagine when reading that description. Click for popup, I won't have it on display for the unaware.) Added: I don't post war porn here, but there are some things that some folks have to see - among them, Osama bin Laden dead. I don't need pictures of any of the thousands of his victims over the years to know they exist. (And I count every combat-related death - civilian, military, American, Iraqi, Afghan, coalition partners, aid workers, reporters, et al - since 2001, and some from before, in that number.) Sadly, his death won't put an end to all that, but hopefully, as with the under-appreciated death of Zarqawi in Iraq, it will be a step in the right direction. There are great opportunities here, make them work. And (update 2).... it's a fake. Release the real deal (see paragraph above). Was Tapper describing that photograph? Gawd, if the Obama admin wants to close-hold the imagery they can have a new birther-type controversy going in nothing flat... Update 3: Early conspiracy theory round-up here.
Posted by Greyhawk / May 2, 2011 1:21 PM | Permalink 1 TrackBackNo joke: Click for (presumed) corpse picture - not a pretty sight. Not an officially released photo, either. (It is just his body, of course. His spirit has flown, as they say... and is being @$$hammered in hell.) (Update: photo fakery... rest same.) L... Read More 9 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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I'd love to think that picture is legitimate, but I've concluded it's a photoshop job released from sources within Pakistan and is probably designed to cause doubt within the citizens of the United States.
Yup - fake. From a couple years ago, even.
Has anyone seen the death certificate? How do we know that he wasn't killed elsewhere? And say. Didn't he have a body double?
Just in case you need a reason to doubt. And BTW isn't the timing suspicious?
heh - I hope you saw my "Trump demands to see Death Certificate" comment in another post. :)
I think the 'birther' debacle gives a good roadmap for why and how to release information (although why people need to prove the obvious is beyond me - but that's not the case here).
Yeah, I hope Tapper wasn't fooled by that photo...not that it was a bad fake, bet I just assume he has his own sources and wasn't grabbing any Internet ghost story.
Whatever actual photo shows up may be gruesome or not; but I agree with you -- I don't think it's any morbid tendencies that cause people to request a legitimate photo id on this. I think people just want to know for sure that we are rid of this monster.
Peggy in Texas
I've seen worse driver license photos!
Being the skeptic and cynic that I am...something seems fishy. I thought he was killed a long time ago, but because we didn't have enough left to call a body it couldn't be varified. So this report does surprise me. And I have to ask, having studied anthropology of the middle-east and never reading much about seafaring muslims...how does one give a "proper" muslim burial at sea...and why would we do that??
That is so fake!!! It might be true if Bin Laden was killed years ago, but that is definately not a recent pic gotta love photoshop.