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April 23, 2011

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Crazy Talk

By Greyhawk

CIA? You think this guy is CIA? Just because some dumb book from France says so? Come on, Ed, - that's just crazy talk.

I mean seriously, just because he showed up in Libya on March 14th - and just four days later all the American newspapers were calling him "the leader of the rebel army" doesn't mean he's a CIA agent. Seriously, just because on that very day he's the guy quoted shouting "Qaddafi is a big fat liar!" when Qaddafi said he was ordering his troops to cease-fire after the UN approved a "no-fly zone" doesn't mean he's a CIA agent.

Hell, that's just crazy talk.

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All the newspapers were calling him the "hero of the Chad-Libya war who had been in exile." I mean, anyone who says that just because the guy lived near CIA headquarters in Virginia for 20 years - until that very moment he appeared in the papers in his brand new surplus American DCUs - and his friends said they didn't know what he did for a living, so that means he must a CIA agent is just talking crazy talk.

Come on now, you think a guy who a 1996 Washington Post story says was leading a rebellion against Qaddafi in Libya is somehow a CIA agent?

Travelers from Libya reported unrest today in the Jabal Akhdar mountains of eastern Libya and said armed rebels may have joined escaped prisoners in an uprising against the government.

Many Libyans believe that the unrest is part of a plan to overthrow Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and that its leader is Col. Khalifa Haftar, of a contra-style group based in the United States called the Libyan National Army, the travelers said.

The rebel army is the military wing of the Salvation Front for the Liberation of Libya, the main opposition in exile. Haftar was a senior officer in the Libyan army in Chad in the 1980s but was taken prisoner. When he and several hundred other POWs refused to go home after the war, the United States gave them asylum and training facilities.

The travelers, whose accounts could not be confirmed independently, said they heard that the death toll has risen...

I mean, jeepers, Ed - 1996 was an election year. How could President Clinton have found time to run some sort of "Bay of Pigs" - type operation in Libya? That's exactly the same sort of crazy talk people say about the "Bay of Pigs" - type operation President Clinton wasn't running in Iraq that year. That's all crazy talk.

Seriously, just because this 1991 New York Times article says he was brought to the United States five years before that failed uprising...

For two years, United States officials have been shopping around for a home for about 350 Libyan soldiers who cannot return to their country because American intelligence officials had mobilized them into a commando force to overthrow Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader.

Now, the Administration has given up trying to find another country that will accept the Libyans and has decided to bring them to the United States.
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The plan to convert them into a vehicle for destabilizing the Libyan leader accomplished little besides creating 350 exiles.

The soldiers were involved in some minor operations but apparently never used in real combat. But their existence and purpose became known to Colonel Qaddafi and thus they cannot return home for fear of their lives.

...you think he's CIA? Everyone say it all together now: That's crazy talk!

I mean, sure - this 1991 New York Times story from a few weeks before that says a distant member of the deposed Libyan royal family said he would "take charge" of the group immediately before they were brought to America...

The exiled Prince Idris of Libya has said he will take control of a dissident Libyan paramilitary force that was originally trained by American intelligence advisers, and he has promised to order it into combat against Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Libyan leader.

The United States' two-year effort to destabilize Colonel Qaddafi ended in failure in December, when a Libyan-supplied guerrilla force came to power in Chad, where the original 600 commandos were based. The new Chad Government asked the United States to fly the Libyan dissidents out of the country...

But do you really think "Prince Idris" - a guy who is a successful American-based businessman - a guy who was on TV talking about the glorious Libyan peoples' rebellion against Qaddafi back in its early days this year - a guy who can claim (weakly - there's another guy with a better claim, but he lives in Britain, not the US...) the throne of Libya, would actually risk his reputation by mixing with the CIA? One more time : that's crazy talk.

Do you really think just because the Canadian government and the United Nations both have documents on their web pages saying this guy is the leader of a group everyone assumes is CIA-funded, a group of Libyan POWs captured in Chad during the "Toyota Wars" and intended for use against Qaddafi, that this means he's somehow CIA? Seriously, that's pure, tin-foil-hat wearing... um... er... hmmmm...

Okay. Wait. Let me try another track.

Do you think the Obama administration - Hillary Clinton, Tommy Donilon, Sammy Power and all those kids on the NSC, are really so inexperienced, unqualified, unprepared, and incompetent that they'd use a guy (from a Clinton-era CIA op) in a CIA op who has that much evidence in open source material indicating he's a CIA agent?

And sure, when people first started asking questions about the rebels the Obama administration leaked the news that we shouldn't worry about that because the president authorized a CIA op in Libya weeks ago and they say the rebels are okay - but that doesn't mean this guy's part of it.

C'mon - our news media would never let them get away with something like that.

Why, that's just plain crazy talk.



Posted by Greyhawk / April 23, 2011 8:05 AM | Permalink
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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004