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March 23, 2011

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Panem et circenses

By Greyhawk


Perhaps we should try fighting only that sort of long range, off shore war. It is the kind of war that makes heroes, not the sort that wears down armies, chews up soldiers and spits them out. The world is safe at minimum effort and cost. (Or "blood and treasure", as those who've generally donated the least of either prefer to call it.)

Americans get the occasional Team America sort of news report that reassures them we are the baddest sunsabitch in the valley without having to experience the outrage over the quality of paint used in the hospital rooms of wounded combat vets.

Most of what we believe makes that attractive is every bit as illusory as the resulting favorable opinion polls are real.

Today's headlines:

CBS News: Nearly 7 in 10 support air strikes in Libya, CBS News poll finds

CNN: CNN Poll: Most support no fly zone in Libya but not ground troops

Both CBS and CNN compare today's events to historic examples of Bill Clinton's flexing of American muscle. CBS:

Americans have supported this type of military action before. According to a CBS News Poll conducted in September 1995, 59 percent of Americans approved of air strikes in Bosnia during the war there. In March 1999, 51 percent favored US and NATO air strikes in Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War.

CNN offers an even more detailed look here.

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Curiously, the more direct comparison - Clinton's 1998-2001 bombing campaign in Iraq isn't on the list. (Air strikes in Iraq - most aimed at enforcing a "no-fly zone" by targeting surface anti-aircraft systems - continued on a near-daily basis through the final years of Clinton's presidency and the first of Bush's, but Operation Desert Fox, the December 1998 portion alone featured "more munitions than used in the 1991 Gulf War.") Congress had passed "The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998" ("It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime") earlier that year, but regarding the expanded air attacks of December, "Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world," Clinton declared at the time. "Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons."

How well that worked is a subject of debate; Saddam Hussein remained in violation of UN resolutions regarding weapons inspections until regime change in 2003. But Clinton's attacks also inspired Osama bin Laden to pass a death sentence on all Americans that year. "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it," the al Qaeda leader declared in 1998 - but (in America, at least) he was largely ignored. "You are like the Middle East version of Teddy Roosevelt," an ABC news reporter told him; "the American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will."

One aspect of the Iraq campaign was undeniably successful. A few days after the completion of Desert Fox President Clinton's approval level reached "a personal all-time high of 73 per cent in a Gallup poll" - this in spite of the fact that 1998 was also the year of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

At the time CNN declared that scandal their #1 story of the year, with the attack on Iraq a distant #9. Still, today - given their recall of Clinton's other bombing campaigns - it seems odd that CBS and CNN have forgotten the big one.


Posted by Greyhawk / March 23, 2011 8:06 AM | Permalink

5 TrackBacks

The War Obama Wanted from Mudville Gazette on March 25, 2011 2:27 PM

"Dear brothers and sisters who havefought in Iraq and Afghanistan - it isnow time to defend your land!" - A rallying cry for rebels,heard on Libyan radio(original report here) Who are we supporting in Libya? The question has been raised - I can provid... Read More

Golly - it's hard to read to read Juan Cole's Top Ten Accomplishments of the UN No-Fly Zone without concluding our excellent Libyan Adventure is just nothing short of the best war ever. Seriously - Operation Whadafugever Yakallit is not even a week old... Read More

The Jello Salad War from Mudville Gazette on April 3, 2011 5:22 PM

It's a classic cartoon. Unfortunately, it's also an illustration of the planning for our excellent Libya operation. Back to that in a moment, first a note from the Telegraph - "Gaddafi troops renew assault on rebel-held Misrata"Libyan army forces unle... Read More

Unbelievable! You might cry. Of course it is. (If it wasn't, it wouldn't be deniable.) But that doesn't matter. You're along for the ride... When it comes to Libya planning, I keep coming back to this cartoon.... I suppose I should explain it in full. ... Read More

Taking a new stage from Mudville Gazette on April 21, 2011 2:10 PM

First, the "good" news: apparently France found some more munitions. But if you've ever wondered what the fifth week of a planned one-week war looks like, press on... "The United States and its allies have entered a new stage of involvement in Libya," ... Read More

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Michael Moore criticizes Obama for taking military action in Libya - as he does for Bush about Iraq. Moore may be a misguided progressive – but at least he is a principled misguided progressive – unlike the rest of the sots.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004