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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! December 2, 2010 Someone's getting leaked on...By Greyhawk...maybe it's you. Timeline: November 29: WikiLeaks Using Amazon Servers After Attack December 1: WikiLeaks website kicked off Amazon's servers December 1: How Lieberman Got Amazon To Drop Wikileaks (Senator Lieberman statement here) Here's a short version of the third - the Senator's office asked Amazon if the first was true - and if so were there plans to boot them out. "Yes" and "done" were the replies. Which seems a smart move on Amazon's part in the strictly business sense. Supporters of "transparency" may be outraged, but it's likely that they are far too few in number to support Amazon's continued existence should that percentage of the population opposed to (if not downright outraged over) WikiLeak's behavior choose to do their purchasing locally. That this comes at the height of the Christmas shopping season magnifies the potential impact. Attempts to paint this as government interference or a first amendment issue will appeal to those same "advocates of transparency," but Amazon's decision is one that makes complete sense in a free market. Joe Lieberman once again makes a convenient boogieman for a certain segment of society in this case, but authentic advocates of real freedom will have a hard time reconciling advocacy for WikiLeaks with condemnation of Amazon. But there are a couple of other points worth noting - things that (should) make you go hmmmm... The first from the TPM link above: The [Amazon hosting] service, we should note, is self-serve; as with services like YouTube, the company does not screen or pre-approve the content posted on its servers. Countered by a second thought from Hot Air: According to the AP, server space can be rented from the company on a "self-serve basis," suggesting that Amazon might not have realized until today just who their new client was. I find that hard to believe given the amount of traffic that must have been flooding in, but then I also find it hard to believe that Amazon wouldn't have dumped them instantly had they known lest a U.S. boycott cripple their Christmas sales season. (Media reports about the Amazon/WikiLeaks were available as early as Monday afternoon.) That last reference is to the November 29th Wall Street Journal story at the top of the timeline that opened this post. Now let's yank the rug out from under the entire story above - and reveal the earlier dates in the timeline: October 22: Why are some WikiLeaks Warlogs servers in the US? And November 28: WikiLeaks 'cablegate' hosted on Amazon EC2 US servers Oh snap, as the kids say these days. And as the blogger notes in his second post: "The [October 22] story got picked up by The Register, The Telegraph and then spread to various other places." The Register report (headlined "Wikileaks taunts Pentagon with server mirrors in USA: Iraq War Logs hosted by...Amazon") is dated October 25th - as is the Telegraph's ("Amazon hosting WikiLeaks Warlogs information"). [Correction appended: Telegraph story is dated Oct 26, initial version dated both Oct 26.] That blows more than a few holes in this claim from the AP's December 1st story (the second in the timeline above):
But they hadn't just moved in, they'd been there since October - at least. And according to the October Telegraph story, Amazon was notified at that time, but "did not respond to requests for comment in time for publication." The Register adds that "We've also contacted Amazon, and it has yet to respond. Nor has the US Department of Defense, which condemned the release of the Iraq War Logs." In the interim, WikiLeaks dumped their State Department documents. While that might explain the greater attention paid to the Amazon angle now, it's also something anyone following the story - and concerned about the fallout - should have known was coming for a long time: But apparently Manning also leaked "260,000 classified U.S. diplomatic cables that Manning described as exposing "almost criminal political back dealings."" I'm not sure if he understands the difference between "criminal" (example: 'leaking classified' - which is) and "stuff I don't like" - or "embarrassing," but I'm fairly certain most DoS folks do..."Hillary Clinton, and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack when they wake up one morning, and find an entire repository of classified foreign policy is available, in searchable format, to the public," Manning wrote. That last quote is from a June 6th Wired Magazine article revealing Bradley Manning as the source of all the headline-making WikiLeaks document dumps (going back to the now-nearly forgotten "collateral murder" video) of the past year. The State Department documents are also noted in his charge sheet - dated 29 May, but available on the bradleymanning.org web site, and in (redacted) pdf form at multiple other locations since July. ![]() (If all this is a surprise to you, there's probably more shocking stuff you didn't know here - and especially here.) You don't need to be a "computer hacker" to follow along with this story - to stay ahead of it, even. All that's needed is an internet connection and the slightest interest in what's going on. It's safe to assume that the US government - and Amazon - have at least one of the above. Posted by Greyhawk / December 2, 2010 11:17 AM | Permalink 4 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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These diplomatic cables are illegal?
I'm sorry, our fine DOJ, Mr. Holder seems to have not filed criminal charges or even mentioned specific criminal charges about these cables and whereas I welcome Lieb's actions, I would much prefer that we not put the cart before the horse.
File the criminal charges first and prosecute,then go after them, I would shudder to think of our politicians nowadays having the power to simply say something is illegal without the actual legal process being followed and taking it upon themselves to shut down privately held companies.
Exactly like the dot com shut downs that they have already done recently.
Was there a point to this post?
Gerry, the first half introduces something that's in the news today, the second half points out why those news stories are wrong. (WikiLeaks did not just move their site to Amazon server's this past week, and Amazon has been aware of their client since at least October.) The point is to inform. You may have already known all that, or you may simply not care/have no use for that information - in which case there's probably little "point" to this post for you.
If you're asking about "Drider's" comment, I have no idea. But I'd like to hear more about "the dot com shut downs that they have already done recently."
Perhaps this is one that drider meant?