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September 28, 2010

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More ways to lose a war

By Greyhawk

"...he showed bad judgment. When I put somebody in charge of the lives of 100,000 young men and women in a very hazardous situation, they've got to conduct themselves at the highest standards, and he didn't meet those standards."
- Barack Obama, on General Stan McChrystal

That's a quote from this month's Rolling Stone interview with the President, likely a return favor for their earlier efforts on his behalf.

Here's more:

Let's talk about the war in Afghanistan. Where were you when you first heard about the comments made by Gen. Stanley McChrystal and his staff, and how did you feel as you read them for yourself?

I was in my office in the residence, in the Treaty Room. Joe Biden called me -- he was the first one who heard about it. I think it was Sunday night, and I had one of the staff here send me up a copy, and I read through the article...

Which really isn't talking about Afghanistan so much at all. But this is:

What we've had to do after an extensive review that I engaged in was to say to our commanders on the ground, "You guys have to have a strategy in which we are training Afghan security forces, we're going to break the Taliban momentum, but I am going to establish a date at which we start transitioning down and we start turning these security functions over to a newly trained Afghan security force." That is what we're in the process of doing.

So I told 'em, I said - you people go do your Army stuff or whatever, but I'm putting a stop to it as soon as I can. (High five.)

And there's that message to the base, one of those messages directed at some that may undercut the messages sent to others that are the hallmark of "strategy" in Obama's war. (There's this assurance, too: "The fact of the matter is, when we came in, what we learned was that the neglect of Afghanistan had been more profound than we expected." So blame Bush apparently still works in some quarters.)

Let's leave the Lady GaGa Fan Club Newsletter (or the big-time magazine that "got" McChrystal, if you prefer) for a moment. Bob Woodward appeared on ABC's Good Morning America today (video) to discuss Obama's Wars with George Stephanopoulos. "It appears in many many scenes throughout this book," the host observed, "that the president is approving a compromise that he doesn't fully believe in."

"He wants out of Afghanistan," Woodward explained, adding "the thing you never see in all of these discussions is the president stepping up like he did in his political campaign in 2008 and say 'yes we can.'"

Turning back to the Rolling Stone, as evidenced by the tone of the article (and sheesh - we know fellating the president is the cost of access - but Wenner must have popped his whole damn stash of Women Extenze before he cleared security...) Obama could have found no friendlier environment in which to rally the support of that base - and on every other issue he availed himself of that opportunity. Witness the intense passion displayed in the surprise encore with which our story concludes.

[Signaled by his aides, the president brings the interview to a close and leaves the Oval Office. A moment later, however, he returns to the office and says that he has one more thing to add. He speaks with intensity and passion, repeatedly stabbing the air with his finger.]

One closing remark that I want to make: It is inexcusable for any Democrat or progressive right now to stand on the sidelines in this midterm election... right now, we've got a choice between a Republican Party that has moved to the right of George Bush and is looking to lock in the same policies that got us into these disasters in the first place, versus an administration that, with some admitted warts, has been the most successful administration in a generation in moving progressive agendas forward...

Everybody out there has to be thinking about what's at stake in this election and if they want to move forward over the next two years or six years or 10 years on key issues like climate change, key issues like how we restore a sense of equity and optimism to middle-class families who have seen their incomes decline by five percent over the last decade. If we want the kind of country that respects civil rights and civil liberties, we'd better fight in this election...

Then he grabbed a Stratocaster from Rahm Emanuel, lit it on fire, and like totally smashed it through a Marshall Stack... Seriously though, it's not hard to imagine Jann Wenner and Company, Bic lighters held high, chanting "yes we can, yes we can" after Obama first left the Oval Office, then cheering lustily on his return.

Without noticing that the Afghanistan song and dance number didn't make the cut for that medley of greatest hits.

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Postscript - a bit more from those old dudes Woodward and Stephanopoulos...

"He wants out of Afghanistan," Woodward explained, adding "the thing you never see in all of these discussions is the president stepping up like he did in his political campaign in 2008 and say 'yes we can.'"

"That's what gets your Washington Post colleague David Ignatious," Stephanopoulus responded, "he wrote about your portrayal of the president, and he said this:

    'Woodward shows us an Obama who is halfway to war, doubting his strategy even as he asks young men and women to die for it. That's the one thing a president must not do: Sacrifice lives for a policy he doesn't think can succeed.'"

"He [Obama] is an intellectual, as we know," Woodward observed. "He's the law professor, and he's looked at the facts on Afghanistan which I lay out. It's a dreary picture... last spring at the end of one of these briefings he said 'given that definition of the problem I don't know how we're going to come up with a solution.' And so intellectually he realizes 'real, real hard' - he knows as commander in chief he has to do something..."

Which brings to my (non-intellectual) mind an Orwell quote...

The English intelligentsia, on the whole, were more defeatist than the mass of the people - and some of them went on being defeatist at a time when the war was quite plainly won - partly because they were better able to visualize the dreary years of warfare that lay ahead. Their morale was worse because their imaginations were stronger. The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it, and if one finds the prospect of a long war intolerable, it is natural to disbelieve in the possibility of victory.

If only the rest of us had imagination, we could understand how they must feel.

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Previously: There are many ways to lose a war...

Next: How to lose a war (part three: with friends like us...)



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May the Lord change our President's mind and heart--or change our President...

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Just to bring a possible story to your, and milbloggers, attention.

Another way to lose a war- mistreat your vets.

Recently I reported to the VA hospital in Madison, Wisconsin for an operation to repair a bone that had not set properly. (Note: I'm over 50% disability, therefor authorized though it's not service connected.) During pre-op processing, I had an interview with the resident who was to do the operation. His news- you're a smoker, so I will not operate. A complaint to the Chief of Staff's office led to a conversation with a senior orthopod, who told me that they would not do "elective", meaning, apparently, non-emegency, not unnecessary, surguries on smokers. He mentioned hip and knee surgery in particular.

Contact with another VA doc confirmed that that is policy at least in Wisconsin, and another doctor, a friend, called it ridiculous. My question is, has anyone else heard anything about this, and how widespread is it? When did it start, after, say, Jan,2009?

I'm retired Army, and have Tricare for another year, so I'll get this taken care of, but what effect will it have on vets who don't have other sources of care, and who can't or won't quit. The PTSD rate amoung Irag/Afghan vets is supposed to be about 1 in 7. Will a smoker fresh out of Afghanistan be denied treatment?

The smoking rate of vets is higher than the overall population, and this will save them money, or the smokers will be forced to quit a legal habit to get treatment to which they are otherwise entitled. Coercion (blackmail) anyone? Smokers are a perfect target for what one of my doctors called rationing. Politically incorrect and maginalized already, they deserve it!

I'd appreciate it if you could point me at someone who knows more about this than I do. I don't want to start a flap that's already being fought elsewhere, but I think this policy is BS, and I need to get involved.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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The Mudville Gazette is written and produced by Greyhawk, who recently retired from 24 years of active duty in the US military, but will maintain this disclaimer: Unless otherwise credited, the opinions expressed are those of the author, and nothing here is to be taken as representing the official position of or endorsement by the United States Department of Defense or any of its subordinate components.

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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004