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May 22, 2010

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Speaking of war...

By Greyhawk

News from West Point:

Mr. Obama all but declared victory in Iraq, crediting the military but not Mr. Bush, who sent more troops in 2007. "A lesser Army might have seen its spirit broken," Mr. Obama said. "But the American military is more resilient than that. Our troops adapted, they persisted, they partnered with coalition and Iraqi counterparts, and through their competence and creativity and courage, we are poised to end our combat mission in Iraq this summer."

Speaking for myself only, you're welcome. Ignoring who - besides the troops - does or doesn't get the credit, it absolutely was a bitch to fight an enemy overseas while a lot of shitbags in our own Congress kept saying they had won.




Posted by Greyhawk / May 22, 2010 2:02 PM | Permalink

17 Comments

When does Sen Reid admit that he was wrong?


You know, with every passing day, this guy redefines "chutzpah".

Man has absolutely no concept of the word "shame". None at all.

Some kept saying it had already been lost, too.

May the Lord rebuke out leaders until they repent.

OUR PRESIDENT HAS NEVER SERVED. HIS FRAME OF REFERENCE IS HIS OWN SUCCESS. POLITICAL SUCCESS IS NOT ACHIEVED ON THE BATTLE SCAPE. LEADERSHIP IS DEMANDED. HEADLINES DON'T MEAN MUCH/

Miserable shitpuddle has the most arrogant manic narcissism ever seen.

I was there at West Point as the President kept all the cadets and audience spellbound and entertained from start to finish. He shook the hand of each graduate and even wrapped his arm around a few and waved to their parents so that pictures could be taken. Everybody loved him. Everyone was amazed that the class "Goat" not only shook his hand, but he also grabbed the President in a hug and lifted him off his feet. It was amazing. Of course, it was 4 years ago and President Bush was loved and respected and spoke without a teleprompter. I understand that the cadets were pretty quiet after the teleprompter-assisted Obama spoke. Things have changed, and I feel sorry for the cadets and families who missed out having someone as well liked and genuine as President Bush. Bush wasn't perfect, but this guy and his supporters are pathetic.

Would that be the same C-in-C who had to be reminded - by a reporter after the end of a press conference - to give a "shout out" to HIS troops on Christmas Eve, last year?

Pharaoh is redefining unearned arrogance, narcissism, and hubris.

"it absolutely was a bitch to fight an enemy overseas while a lot of shitbags in our own Congress kept saying they had won"

So I guess that means that you don't think we've won the war?

If so, that's good, be cause you can't fight , least wise, win a "War on Terror. Terror is a tactic, and by definition you can't when a war on a tactic.

General Dwight David Eisenhower (a true American hero) executed the successful "Overlord" mission on D-Day that took the beaches away from the Nazis and began the march to Berlin to crush Hitler's Third Reich. That was a war.

When the planes struck our buildings the vast majority of the hijackers were Saudi Arabians. Logically one might retaliate against the Saudi Arabians, but deer in the headlights George, I mean little Dick decided we needed to go to a place where battles can't be won(see Russia) Afghanistan. But not to worry, we were going to get that bastard "Dead or Alive".

(Note: Little Dick grounded all the planes in North America that day. All except one. That one carried some 21 members of the Bin Laden family out of this country and back to Saudi Arabia NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Also George Senior was having lunch with a memb er of the Saud family inner circle. A man that George Senior referred to as "one of his family". Well with family like this who needs enemies?)

Problem is, we didn't want that bastard. That would put a premature ending to the fictional "War on Terror". So, what to do? Well little Dick, Doug Feith, Frank Wolfiwitz, and not to forget Rummy came up with this great idea to conflate the 9/11 attack with Iraq. In fact as they did it they warmed to the idea and got real enthusiastic. You can tell all kinds of cool lies when you toss in the phrase "War on Terror" here and there.

So off we go so that George Junior can show that he has a bigger one than George Senior and so that little Dick can make lots of money for Halliburton and so that Rummy can feel all full of himself.
Who cares that the collateral damage is thousands of American lives? We just tell them they are heroes in the "War on Terror" while we tell anybody that is trying to stop the slaughter of our kids that they are traitors.
And on And on And on it goes. Bullshit lying old white men sending kids to die for nothing.

Of course that's just my "traitorous point of view"

And lest you forget, that good ol' boy W was a coke snorting, drunken, draft dodger. His parents must be proud.

"So I guess that means that you don't think we've won the war?"

Nope, just means I was there, it was a bitch, and that people screaming "you can't win" or "we've lost" or "failure" didn't help.

Sorry, let me clarify: didn't help us. It was a great benefit to the people recruiting suicide bombers.

"traitorous point of view"

I wouldn't call it traitorous. Comical yes but traitorous no!

You forgot one in your diatribe. You forgot to mention that all the Marines deployed at the time were cold blooded murderers. Please amend your rant to get it right. We can't possibly have such a major omission for all you types that support the troops. Thank you in advance!

ROTFLMFAO!

ladcrpp....I think your name is missing a few letters....it should be load of crap.

Quite a fine example though of yet another escapee from the shallow end of the gene pool who likely resides in their parents' basement eating cheetos and drinking diet pepsi all day long. You hit almost all the standard disproven talking points of Kos, Puffington, and the rest of them.

Until you have gotten with the program, I siggest you remain in the cheap seats and cheer on your team, even if it is not our side, so we can at least leave you out of the party that is America!

And as a point of reference, "little dick" is da mare of chicago. His father was "big dick." And one day, he will see the light...probably the light of hells' fires, when he can join most of the other Chicago politicians...to include the great pretender.

Kbob

We won ? The current government is best friends with Iran. They were one of only 3 nations (along with Syria and Lebanon) that came out in support of Iran's nuclear program. The next government will be decided by Muqtada Sadr, a strongly anti American cleric whose militia killed more Americans than any other group. Please explain how installing a government in Iraq that is the ally of Iran is in the national interests of the USA

Hey, fair's fair, it's still "Bush's war"... Demo-rats blame him for everything else, they'll should at least be consistent and let him have his victory. (Of course, that requires integrity on their part... )

Well john ryan, (seriously you had to take a name from a movie?) Think about it the way they do.

Our president is a coward who craps on his allies (unless they are of like mind to HIS will.). Sucks up like a whore to our enemies and basicaly helps recruit terrorist everywhere.

Yea i'd trust a country ruled by that man.

And lest you forget, that good ol' boy W was a coke snorting, drunken, draft dodger. His parents must be proud.
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Hmmm, so I must ask. Where in the hell did you get your info from?

By the way, O-bummer was or still is a drug user.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004