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February 26, 2010

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The hurt

By Greyhawk

The Washington Post: "Some Iraq, Afghanistan war veterans criticize movie 'Hurt Locker' as inaccurate."

Critics adore the film and it has been nominated for nine Oscars -- a feat matched only by "Avatar," the top-grossing movie of all time -- but Paul Rieckhoff, founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, says that's "nine more Oscar nominations than it deserves. I don't know why critics love this silly, inaccurate film so much," he wrote on his Facebook page.

"Films, almost more than anything, will be the way Americans understand our war," Rieckhoff said. "So we feel that there is a responsibility for filmmakers to portray our war accurately. We see ourselves as watchdogs. . . . When he puts a hood on like Eminem and starts roving outside the wire, it's ridiculous."

Damn - my fellow Iraq vet/milblogger Alex Horton thought it was just a (good) movie.

But "As a voice of the new veterans' movement, and of thousands of IAVA members across the country, I have a responsibility to serve as pop-culture watchdog, and to help the American public understand what accurately depicts the military's experience in Iraq and what doesn't," Paul Rieckhoff writes in his Newsweek assault on Hurt Locker.

Well then, perhaps we can all look forward to this upcoming bit of non-ridiculous totally realistic hard-corps MATT DAMON badassery!!!!!


It isn't at your local theater yet - but here's coverage of MATT DAMON at the premier from celebrity gossip.net.

The Green Zone looks to be an action-packed, thrill a minute tour-de-force of Iraq exactly as we all remember it, and besides MATT DAMON features Paul Rieckhoff as "Gonzales."

Here's a scene where MATT DAMON question's Paul's intelligence:


And it's based on the book Imperial Life in the Emerald City by Washington Post reporter Rajiv Chandrasekaran, now re-titled and available with badass MATT DAMON cover!!!

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Hell yeah! Kick ASS!! Iraq vets finally get the movie they deserve!!!

(/sarc)


Update - ouch: "The Man in the Bomb Suit"



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Looks interesting, I must watch it. I like Matt Damon.

We managed to keep Hurt Locker in the DVD player for an hour, then summarily removed it (it's a 2-hour movie). And we agreed that if your 'average' person gets their impression of the military from that film, we're all in a hurt locker.

I really wish The Green Zone could be good, but I have too much experience with Hollowood letting me down by screwing things up to "look cool" to the director. The director rarely has the remotest clue what it really looks like, so those of us with an interest in a particular area find inaccuracy after inaccuracy, and a ruined movie. Having heard the plot synopsis, I already know this flick is gonna piss me off, because long experience with these asshats shows they always do that to me. I'm gonna pass on this one.

But Paul Rieckhoff's in it!

And MATT DAMON!

In case I wasn't clear, I don't think "Green Zone" will be anything like "Imperial Life in the Emerald City" or Iraq.

Paul Rieckhoff was last in Iraq in 2003.

FUCK.

HIM.

Hurt locker was a pretty good action movie that happened to be set in Iraq. Won't see "Bourne Supremacy Iraq" since Matt Damon hasn't done anything good since "Team America: World Police."
Rieckhoff is a Democrat party hack and an idiot, so I don't pay attention to him.

As a former Marine and OIF veteran, I whole heartedly agree with this article. I would add that while Hurt Locker is a unrealistic portrayal of combat operations in Iraq, it deserves mention because it does not portray the soldiers as monsters. Many Hollywood movies about the war show only our combat forces as generally bad people(Redacted), or at the least very stupid (Jarhead).

Sam, did you see Generation Kill? I read the book but never saw the HBO series.

Talk to some EOD Techs and see what they thought of "Hurt Locker". Hint: the guy in the theater, laughing? He was probably a Tech.

On the other hand, "Hurt Locker" is EOD's "Top Gun". Most people have no idea what EOD does. You can say "yeah, just like in Hurt Locker" to impress chicks. LOL

"EOD's Top Gun" - those three words sum it up.

No Kelly McGillis, though.

I agree with Alex Horton on Hurt Locker. As I posted on David Bellavia's site, while The Hurt Locker may not be "pro" military, it at least does a decent job of showing the majority of troops to be decent guys. And it showed the enemy for what he is. Obviously some far fetched stuff, but not bad on the whole. And how is it that Paul turned seven months in Iraq into a career in politics. Man, he must be high speed. Say, Paul, whatever happened to Operation Truth?

I guess most guys from my war want to understand yours but we don't trust Hollywood so we depend on you to tell us which movies are reasonably accurate. We had EOD guys who we thought were crazy but Hurt Locker? As Sam says at least they weren't portrayed as monsters. Keep the reviews coming.
Possum
Laos, Class of '67

I saw the preview a couple of weeks ago, and I agree, it is kick ass that "Iraq vets finally get the movie they deserve!!!" Thanks for keeping our country safe.

But do you agree with the /sarc tag? It's small, but crucial to the post.

I'm an USMC EOD Tech, and it is pretty common for us to fantasize about kicking the EOD advisor to 'The Hurt Locker' in the dick.

Correction...

I'm A not AN...
Anyone doubt I'm a Marine?

I have to laugh (sadly) that guys like Matt Damon have huge careers portraying REAL HEROs like Jeff. Still, Nightcrawler's Chick move gives these movies great cred points and one can always hope there a scene of him pissing on Saddam's head (the statue one from the Embassy)

I remember reading the INSUM one day and seeing a report that they had just detained 4 bad guys w AKs in a car at the ECP by Union III LEAVING the green zone. Pretty sexy huh?

Can't wait till they get here in the Stan.

May be an ok movie. But I am no longer a Matt Damon fan. Have been reading about how his close friend and life long mentor was Anti-American and communist Howard Zinn. Damon is only acting like a patriot, damn.

Damon is hooked in with penn and clooney and the rest and will not get any more of my bucks to trash America.

Malkin, red state -- On Sunday, Dec. 13, the History Channel will air "The People Speak" -- a documentary based on Marxist academic Howard Zinn's capitalism-bashing, America-dissing, grievance-mongering history textbook, "A People's History of the United States."

The film was co-produced and bankrolled by Zinn's Boston neighbor and mentee Matt Damon. An all-star cast of Bush-bashing liberals, including Danny Glover, Josh Brolin, Bruce Springsteen, Marisa Tomei and Eddie Vedder, will appear.

Zinn's work is a self-proclaimed "biased account" of American history that rails against white oppressors, the free market and the military.

Many schools are stopping teaching about our actual revolutionary history and WWI and WWII and how we have helped others be free around the planet.

love this post...so who nominated him to serve as the pop-culture watchdog??

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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  • Greyhawk: But do you agree with the /sarc tag? It's small, read more
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Tending Distant
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Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

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