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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! December 8, 2009 McChrystal testimony - Senate Armed ServicesBy GreyhawkAnd Eikenberry, too. "On Sunday, General McChrystal and Ambassador Eikenberry spent three hours in intense debate preparation at the Pentagon, taking questions from a mock panel of lawmakers," the New York Times reports. Here's the result. (Broadcast ended, video stream removed) Main message: "We are sending American boys and women to be successful on the winning team." Do you agree it's important that we have to win it? McChrystal: "I believe we have to be successful" Eikenberry on progress: "There are now 6.5 million children going to school - 35% of them are women." The most amazing thing about this testimony is the use of "approved" (or politically correct) speech. "Girls," "win," and "victory" don't make the cut. What is it we have the right strategy and resources to do? Is it to win? McChrystal: "I believe it's to let the Afghan people win" Are we sending our sons and daughters to win? "We are sending them to be on the winning team." I don't understand why we are parsing these words. Secretary Gates reportedly said "we are in this thing to win" I hope that's right, I hope we're getting that message to the troops. Is there some guidance to you all that says we can't use the words "win" or "victory"? McChrystal: "Not that I have seen." However, when asked "will you be successful in your mission?", General McChrystal responded "yes we will." More highlights: McChrystal responding to a question whether the July 2011 date was his idea: "I did not recommend that date - I did indicate that I thought we could make substantial improvement by then." How do we convince the locals we are committed long-term given ambiguous withdrawal/drawdown in the plan? McChrystal: "They will judge us by our actions. The question to us [when we return to a village] is always 'are you going to stay this time?' What they [Afghans] are really judging is not our rhetoric. What we need to stress is not the increase in forces but the long term partnership. We should contest enemy propaganda about timelines and stress that we will help them in long term partnership. We have to prove that with our actions, not just our words." Are you convinced force levels are adequate? McChrystal: "I am convinced." Should we send more than 30K? "In my best military advice, this is the right number of American troops." Will you be successful in your mission? "Yes we will." Do you agree this is a war of necessity? "Yes." Do you agree it's important that we have to win it? "I believe we have to be successful" Do you anticipate additional troops will embolden the insurgency? "When they [insurgents] mass now they are defeated. I think, however, they will use increased numbers of suicide bombers, coercion of the population..." McChrystal explaining the endstate of the debate over the definition of "defeat" of the Taliban: "It can be like politics, where you defeat the other party but you don't wipe them out." Define defeat the Taliban. McChrystal: "prevent them from being an existential threat to the Afghan government. Over time that will cause them to go away." But we do intend to defeat the Taliban? "Sir, the military term, without parsing it too tightly, we intend to prevent them from doing what they want to do." Notes as taken while in-progress: McChrystal explaining the endstate of the debate over the definition of "defeat" of the Taliban: "It can be like politics, where you defeat the other party but you don't wipe them out." Do you anticipate additional troops will embolden the insurgency? "When they mass now they are defeated. I think, however, they will use increased numbers of suicide bombers, coercion of the population..." Green light to cross the border in hot pursuit? We have the ability to protect our forces cross the border with fires, in coordination with Pakistan allies. McChrystal: "I would never take away ability from American soldiers to protect themselves" - however, "I would be careful how I worded" any hypothetical ROE regarding that - sovereignty of Pakistan is an issue. What are we doing to combat al Qaeda in Pakistan? McChrystal: "The most effective long term action against terrorists is governance." Neither McChrystal or Eikenberry has control over any operations that might be ongoing in Pakistan. More issues re: al Qaeda in Pakistan will be covered in a classified briefing following. McChrystal on Afghan army: ahead of national police in training, progress - police have "much further to go". Is corruption inevitable as long as we have poppy crops? Eikenberry: Difficult - 20% reduction in poppy last year. Eikenberry: "New strategy calls for emphasis at sub-national level" on developing governance. Over 30 people assigned to US embassy to audit, oversee spending of US aid money. "Cautiously optimistic" in our ability to work with Karzai government to achieve reform goals Karzai laid out in his inauguration speech. Are you convinced force levels are adequate? McChrystal: "I am convinced." Should we send more than 30K? "In my best military advice, this is the right number of American troops." Will you be successful in your mission? "Yes we will." Define defeat the Taliban. McChrystal: "prevent them from being an existential threat to the Afghan government. Over time that will cause them to go away." But we do intend to defeat the Taliban? "Sir, the military term, without parsing it too tightly, we intend to prevent them from doing what they want to do." Eikenberry on numbers of US civilians in Afghanistan: "It's not about the numbers, it's about the result that they get." "By the end of next year we'll have a three fold increase." "Right now we have what's needed." Example: In Helmand Province, one agricultural expert leverages several hundred Afghans providing services to several thousand farmers - "one well placed civilian in Afghanistan gets tremendous effects." Eikenberry on progress: "There are now 6.5 million children going to school - 35% of them are women." The most amazing thing about this testimony is the use of "approved" (or politically correct) speech. "Girls," "win," and "victory" don't make the cut. How do we convince the locals we are committed long-term given ambiguous withdrawal/drawdown in the plan? McChrystal: "They will judge us by our actions. The question to us (when we return to a village) is always 'are you going to stay this time?' What they [Afghans] are really judging is not our rhetoric. What we need to stress is not the increase in forces but the long term partnership. We should contest enemy propaganda about timelines and stress that we will help then in long term partnership. We have to prove that with our actions, not just our words." McChrystal on the Taliban, and why we can win: "Afghans don't want the Taliban - the only time Afghans accept the Taliban is with reluctance - out of necessity, not desire." McChrsytal responding to a question whether the July 2011 date was his idea: "I did not recommend that date - I did indicate that I thought we could make substantial improvement by then." What is it we have the right strategy and resources to do? Is it to win? McChrystal: "I believe it's to let the Afghan people win" Are we sending our sons and daughters to win? "We are sending them to be on the winning team." I don't understand why we are parsing these words. Secretary Gates reportedly said "we are in this thing to win" I hope that's right, I hope we're getting that message to the troops. Is there some guidance to you all that says we can't use the words "win" or "victory"? "Not that I have seen." Posted by Greyhawk / December 8, 2009 10:44 AM | Permalink 1 Comment |
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Greyhawk, thought you might be interested in reading this, picked it up from a link over at SWJ. You may have already read it.
How the Taliban Take a Village (Lind/Sexton)
William S. Lind
December 7, 2009
EDITOR’S NOTE: The following is a guest column, written by a reserve NCO with Special Forces, Mark Sexton. It is based on his personal observations in Afghanistan. It represents his analysis it represents exactly the sort of intelligence analysis we need but seldom get.
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/lind/2009/12/on-war-325-how-the-taliban-take-a-village-lindsexton.html