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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! December 2, 2009 Waiting for the president to get to the pointBy Greyhawk
"West Point cadets read while waiting for President Obama to give a speech at the United States Military Academy at West Point in New York on Tuesday" reads the photo caption from the New York Times. The guy on the right is almost finished with War and Peace. Just kidding - he's only starting his career in war and peace, but that book he's reading is Steven Pressfield's Gates of Fire He might have started the book while he was sitting there. The cadets were in place and waiting four hours before showtime - so says Fox News anchor Jon Scott. Scott is a parent of a West Point cadet. But as you can perhaps tell by their version of the video, the folks at TPM are a bit miffed at co-anchor Jane Skinner's quip about "hot air" in the room. Slow news day for TPM, I suppose. Elsewhere, even though he presented it as a contest scorecard on presidential troop photo ops (Bush did 13 in 2005 alone!!! - Obama has only done five in the last month and seven altogether, although "the vice president and the first lady, in turn, have made the rounds at half a dozen other facilities") Dana Milbank expressed his deep concern in his Washington Post column that "Obama is antagonizing many in his party with an expected announcement that he is sending more troops to Afghanistan, and, to rub it in, he's making the announcement at one of Bush's favorite military locations: the U.S. Military Academy at West Point". (Next week: Dana learns that Obama is also living in a house Bush used to live in!!!) And of course, Chris Matthews one-upped him (or maybe proved his "prescience"), calling West Point the "enemy camp". Here's another cadet quote from a West Point dad: "All he said is that it is going to be a long night Tuesday." That in response to my own pre-speech comment re: West Point: "We're in favor of whatever it takes to win the war, but ...if the Commander in Chief wants to make his in-person audience happy he'll authorize late reporting for cadet classes on Wednesday." I haven't heard whether he took that advice. Update - another reader ![]() Posted by Greyhawk / December 2, 2009 5:45 PM | Permalink 9 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Four hours! Holy cannollis! Did I spell cannolli right? Whatever, spelling nerds, get a life already.
Did you all see that picture of the cadet reading "Kill Bin Laden"? He was flashing the cover to every camera, it seems. Cheeky young person....
And, aren't we lucky for the likes of them?
Okay, back to work preparing - wait for it - a power point presentation. Sigh.
Madhu you are a moron. if you knew anything of the sacrifices that the cadet reading "Kill Bin Laden" has made for you as an American you should be thankful and ashamed for being a jackass. i know him personally.we are very lucky to have the likes of him defending our nation.
on a second note the fact that cadets were falling asleep is inexcusable. they should have had the discipline to force themselves to stay awake. many did and the coverage by the media has framed cadets in a poor light. Many were awake and attentive. the media seemed to have saught out those who were fighting sleep and zoomed in on them.
lastly, if you want to know what it was like for a cadet tuesday read this:
wake up approx. 0530
breakfast
class til 1200
lunch 1200-1230
class til 4pm
4pm-8pm wait for the president, not allowed to sleep, one bathroom break, full-capacity crowd, hot and uncomfortable uniforms, many with no dinner or snack, and no water.at 730 cadets are bored to tears with a speech from a history professor telling the history of presidential visits to WP and also telling cadets when they should appluad or not (which they all followed)
8pm president speaks and cadets are spent
930pm cadets return to their rooms and do homework, many not going to bed until the wee hours of the morning wednesday.
Also the president did nothing to help cadets deal with his arrival, he did not push classes back Wednesday morning.
So Madhu if you ever want to make asenine comments again, do so. Just be prepared to defend them and at least know what you are talking about before you make a fool of yourself again.
REST.
Anon, Madhu is being completely sincere when she says "aren't we lucky for the likes of them?"
A point with which I agree, we are indeed. Your "make a fool of yourself" close seems ironic, I suppose it's fortunate you didn't have the courage to use your name.
I noticed the "Kill Bin Laden" cadet also had a CIB.
Prior "e", with some Iraq time.
I wonder if he thinks West Point is hard...
he is prior...has time in iraq...and he's a RANGER!
I'm sorry Anon. I shouldn't have been so glib.
I am sincere when I say that I admire him and I think you are lucky to know him personally. We are lucky as a country to have such young people.
I guess I should be more careful posting about things? I thought he was being clever and media saavy and admired him for it, among other more important things.
Greyhawk and Madhu,
I apologize, I guess I got caught up in the fervor of the moment as WP has been taking a lot of hits and I felt it necessary to defend my buddies. I obviously misunderstood the original posting and apologize for my response. Im the asshole in this case. Have a good night and God Bless America.
No apologies necessary!
Tell your buddy thanks! A million times over.