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November 9, 2009

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What the "C" stands for

By Greyhawk

Pvt Joseph Foster is yet another soldier reporting that Nidal Hasan shouted "Allah Akbar" when he began firing last week - but Foster made the mistake of saying it on CNN:

Roberts: So the first moments of Thursday afternoon, can you tell our viewers, you know, where you were, what happened, how it all unfolded?

Foster: I was sitting in what they call station 13, it's where we get, basically, our final outs of our RSP (ph) system and I was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up, screamed and yelled Allah Akbar (ph) in Arabic and he opened fire.

Foster was not only there, not only sitting in the second row - he was one of those wounded in the attack. But two minutes later in the interview, Foster would try to downplay Roberts' implication that he was a hero:

ROBERTS: So you were acting like a soldier. You were acting heroically. We should point out that you're with the 20th Engineer Battalion and despite your best efforts and I guess the efforts of your comrades, as well, four members of the battalion were killed, 10 others were injured. And you were shot in the hip and you didn't realize it at the time?

Foster: I had realized it at first, but with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things.

Meaning very specifically that an adrenaline rush can help you overcome pain - or in Foster's case forget you've been shot. That's a common combat story, but true of any violent situation. But here's how CNN is reporting their own interview now:

Among the wounded in the shooting was Pvt. Joseph Foster, 21, who was hit in the hip as he sat at the base's military processing center, preparing paperwork for his January deployment to Afghanistan.

He said he "was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up and yelled 'Allahu akbar' in Arabic and he opened fire," Foster said Monday on CNN's "American Morning."

Foster, 21, said he wasn't clear about whether the gunman said those exact words, noting that "with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things."

And hero or not, that's what you get for telling CNN something they don't want to hear.

Update: Turns out the "C" stands for "cover-up". CNN has deleted the story and replaced it with another one at the same url. No doubt that can be explained as a "re-write" - of course, no explanation is provided. (Common practice among news organizations these days.) That first mistake was not a transcription error or a typo, nor was Pvt Foster's meaning unclear. Two comments delivered two minutes apart were combined to make one that meant exactly the opposite of what he said.

However. the same passage can still be found in this CNN report (for now) - they really wanted people to get the message.The original CNN story (headlined Fort Hood Shooting Suspect Conscious, Talking, Hospital Says) can still be found at other locations.

Another of Pvt Foster's quotes deserves attention - this one about Ft Hood: "The community came together, it's like a giant family. When anything like this happens, we just get stronger, become better united." True of anywhere I've ever been stationed - and that message should be delivered loud and clear.

From the day this story broke, CNN has run with a storyline that the killer's actions are typical of all military members - that he's a typical soldier - which means his victims were just like him.

As evidence to the contrary mounted they ignored it, but here they willfully and intentionally re-wrote an eyewitness account to make it fit their narrative - something altogether different. This isn't the only example from the Ft Hood story that proves once again if you get your news from television and newspapers you're getting something other than news.

By the way, per comments below, in the rewritten story Pvt Foster's first name is now being reported as Robert - in the original it was Joseph. Sounds like someone was in a hurry. Sloppy coverup work all around.

Still more - CNN's lie spreads:

Jihadist battle cry is called 'speculation'

FORT HOOD -- One of the most sensational allegations stemming from last week's shooting spree at Fort Hood was a claim that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "Allahu akbar!" before firing into scores of soldiers at a large post processing center.

A day after Army chief of staff Gen. George W. Casey Jr. expressed concern over potential anti-Muslim reaction in the wake of the mass shooting, Fort Hood appeared to distance itself from the controversy.

A spokesman for the post, asked to clarify comments made last week by Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the Fort Hood commander, who suggested that Hasan issued the jihadist battle cry, called it "speculation."

"The supposed shouted quote is still a matter of speculation and under investigation by CID," Bruce E. Zielsdorf said. "Lt. Gen. Cone is correct in saying he'd heard such reports, but without audiovisual documentation of the incident, it is still an issue to be addressed through the investigative process, and we will do nothing to jeopardize that effort."
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One of the wounded, Pfc. Joseph Foster, told CNN that he was doing paperwork for his deployment in January to Afghanistan when said he heard a cry and then nearby gunfire.

"I was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up and yelled 'Allahu akbar' in Arabic and he opened fire," Foster told CNN's "American Morning"

In an interview that aired Monday, Foster, who refused to discuss the incident in a news conference Sunday, said he couldn't be certain the shooter said those exact words, explaining that "with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things."

I hope Pvt. Foster and the other survivors don't end up being punished for this.




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I'm beginning to wonder about their sanity. Will they crack up in their defense of the indefensible narrative? The CNN interview: ROBERTS: So you were acting like a soldier. You were acting heroically. We should point out that you're with... Read More

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Sadly - a classic.

The need to put out a retraction.

I've been watching CNN try to justify this killer's behavior by blaming it on everything from PTSD to discrimination.

There's no merit to talking to CNN.

Wow. Even for CNN, that's impressive spin.

I recall that Ted Turner was thinking about trying to regain control of CNN. I can't imagine he'd make it worse.

What is CNN?

Just when you think things can't get any more off-the-wall. Seriously, CNN? Do you think people don't see what you are trying to do?

I honor Pvt. Foster, but maybe he will learn not to talk to CNN.


They're not a real news organization.

If we wish really hard, won't it come true?

He may not be 1000% sure about Allah Akbar but he sure remembered his training his Sergeant drilled into his head and went for cover. He also remembered never listen to a Major yelling Allah Akbar they may get you killed.

You know, it talks A LOT to disgust me anymore when it comes to the press. However, you know what?

That's revolting. Really, really obscene.

On a day when we should be remembering and celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of Soviet Communism, I feel like we're taking a huge step backwards.

oops - that should have been "..it TAKES a lot..."

ABC has Keara Bono also flat-out saying she heard it, so it's well past time for this talk of it being "unconfirmed" to go away.

Yah, right.

So let me see: you forget what you remember and temporary memory loss due to stress is a permanent condition.

And of course if you forget once, future remembering doesn't count.

I think I could fit that logic on a pretzel.

Yeah, CNN is just a mouthpiece for the Democrat Party.

CNN is not credible.

Remember that CNN is the "news" organization that for most of a decade suppressed any information it came across about the daily atrocities, torture, murders, dismemberments, shreddings, disembowelments, beheadings, finger and toe removals, and such done to Iraqis by Saddam and his thugs, JUST SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR OFFICES OPEN in Baghdad.

This much CNN News Chief admitted in his open letter to the New York Times, immediately after the US invasion toppled Saddam's government.

You have to ask why was it worth it to Eason Jordan to make that deal with Saddam?

The only thing I've ever been able to figure is that (1) any idiot could see that Saddam was steering Iraq toward another war with the US; (2) The US had already demonstrated that its weapons were able to target individual buildings with almost zero damage to neighboring civilians and structures; (3) as a result, CNN would be guaranteed a front-row seat at one of the most spectacular fireworks displays in history, if only they could avoid losing their ringside privileges.

Souls of pure excrement. Lying to the US for a decade,telling us Saddam was a sweet guy while our government was trying to tell us the truth.

They have only gotten more insane and perverse.

Communist News Network is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. They suppress news, make deals with dictators, fail to use the same reporting standards with liberals as they do with conservatives, report out of context (which is the kind way of stating what they've done here), lie (which is the harsh but more accurate way of putting it), ignore news that is damaging to the liberal agenda, inflate news that is damaging to the conservatives, use character assassination, and a lot of other hogwash. Yet the mainstream media decries the following that bloggers get. If the mainstream media reported fairly, the bloggers would not have a following.

Looks like they edited out the aburd, offensive paragraph. And of course, they made no notation about revising it. I also like how the article is uncredited, so no one can be held responsible.

The "with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things" paragraph has been sent down the memory hole, without a notice of correction.

CNN has rewritten the article to remove that phony portion. But mistakes live on, and you will find that phony portion reported as fact elsewhere, like here:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/military/69629042.html

Not only have they removed the faulty memory line, the Private is now named Robert Foster rather than Joseph Foster...

WTF?

On the over all assessment of CNN I agree but they were one of the first to report what I believe to be the fact that Sgt Mark Todd took down Major Jihad. Most other reports either make nod mention to him as 'her partner' or ignore his actions and existence altogether. The narrative of a woman wounded and winning over the chauvanist manic muslim is just too rich for the media regardless of the facts. They adhere to my yarn spinning grand father's axiom. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Don't spoil the spiel.

Things are really getting just like an Orwell novel aren't they? Newspeak. Here we have a "real news" channel actually lying about and changing eyewitness quotes to serve CNN's political agenda. And that political agenda involves protecting a mass murderer to lessen the publics awareness of a muslim terror attack. To use the NYT's favorite phrase; "some say" CNN is falsefying eyewitness statements to protect an Al Qaeda agent. Any yes Chrissy "Tingles" Matthews, calling a known , banned, Terrorist organization IS a crime.

This is what happens when there is a "compliant" press. Some reporter gets pulled aside by a much-higher-up (who's been contacted by a government quisling urgently requesting "cooperation in preventing those crazy gun-toting right-wingers in flyover country from doing anything rash") and told "We don't want to be inciting any backlash here, we don't want to be blamed if some Angry American throws a bacon-wrapped Koran thru a mosque window somewhere. Let's keep it all vague, let's play down the jihad angle, after all we don't know FOR SURE that this Army shrink wasn't totally nutso himself. If we can blame garden-variety crazy, then the hoi polloi who read our articles won't get the idea there are fundamentalist mosques inciting fundamentalist Muslims in every major city in the USA. We want to be an instrument of peace, doncha know? So in our narrative, see, the Islam angle is out."

I know what the "C" in CNN stands for, and it isn't "cover-up", and it ends in "t".

I stopped watching CNN long ago ... and earlier cancelled my subscriptions to NEWSWEEK, TIME and the AARP.

For a more extensive comment on CNN's review, recommend you visit:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/fort-hood-massacre-a-day-of-courage-and-cowardice/

comments by Bruce Bawer whose recent book "SURRENDER, Appeasing Islam, Sacrificing Freedom" expands on many related disturbing issues.


CNN

known in Canada as

Certainly Not the News

The very fundamental beliefs of Islam make them unacceptable for integration in any society except other Islamic communities. Read their Quaran for crying out loud.

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July 19, 2010


Dawn Patrol 07/19/2010
[Greyhawk]

Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our ongoing roundup of information on war and other topics - from the MilBlogs and other sources around the world.

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Always updating - refresh for updates.

AFGHANISTAN

Prospects for stability in Musa Qala: challenges and possible solutions -- [Bill Ardolino /Long War Journal - in Afghanistan]
Part 3 in a three-part series on Musa Qala. For Part 1, see The checkered history of Musa Qala; for Part 2, see US Marines battle the Taliban for control of Musa Qala.
..."To the west, there are more 'little-t Taliban,' mostly in it for the money and drug smuggling," explains McDowell. "The farther east of the line you go, the more you see 'capital-T Taliban,' the ideologues who are affiliated with the Qetta Shura."
...A third, nebulous category of enemy also exists: violence is often tied to inscrutable local business interests, politics, and simple crime, especially in cases of Afghan-on-Afghan violence.
"Here in the District Center ... it's really strange, it's hard to characterize what is happening," explains H&S Company Commander First Lieutenant Joshua Hartley, who regularly leads patrols through Musa Qala...
Positive factors at present include...

Exploding Culverts -- [Kandahar Diary - in Afghanistan]
The ambush was initiated with a large IED, planted in a road culvert...
The initiation was followed up by sustained and accurate small-arms and RPG fire to the front, middle and rear of the convoy from the high ground on both sides of the MSR. My guards de-bussed and returned fire...

Arbaki -- [Free Range International - in Afghanistan]
It looks like the new boss has convinced President Karzai to reverse his position on using tribal militias. The new name for these soon to be created Arbaki is Local Police Forces (LPF.) This is a plan which has been tried before with minimal success... I'm not sure what is being modified to make this cunning plan more effective than the last time around but I do know this much - the plan is going to fail.

Weather -- [A Major's Perspective - in Afghanistan]
Its hot here right now...but not a hot like you would think...
The wind is something to describe though. Starting in late spring it starts to pickup and everyday around 230PM until Midnight it blows. All of the sand / dust gets picked up by it turning into a swirling maelstorm of junk and dirt.
For the guys in Kandahar and the eastern portions of the country it is different. Kandahar is hot, very hot, reminds me of Iraq hot. The east of the country is hot but also mixed with humidity...

Fête Nationale -- [Field Notes: One Soldier's Perspective - in Afghanistan]
July 14: This morning we had a brief ceremony to recognize and celebrate "Fête Nationale" or French National Day. It is the official national day of France. While it is also known as Bastille Day (anniversary of storming the Bastille in 1789), it actually celebrates the anniversary of the Fête de la Fédération that occurred on 14 July 1790 (one year after the storming of the Bastille)...
This morning's ceremony featured the raising of the French flag over the ISAF Headquarters...

Goodbye "FaST" Food (and good riddance) -- [FaST Surgeon - in Afghanistan]
...I am completely for the elimination of places like BK and Pizza Hut from military installations. Not only in theaters of war, but in ALL military installations. I simply don't believe there is any reason for their existence on our bases / camps / or posts...


IRAQ

On The Iran, Iraq Border -- [J.D. Johannes - in Iraq]
In the 1980s Iran and Iraq fought to a bloody stalemate on a thin strip of desert over access to a waterway, the Shatt al Arab, that had been in dispute since the days of the Ottoman Empire.
The war was a pure fire-power battle resembling the trench warfare of World War I and the set piece charges of the American Civil War.
The tension over the Iran/Iraq border still lingers making border security one of the key missions of US Forces in Iraq.
I spent a day at the Shalamcha Port of Entry, a bustling entry point for Iranian tourists and transhipment point east of Basrah, Iraq...


WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISM

Senators Look For Smoking Gun In BP-Lockerbie Link -- [AP]
...Soon after al-Megrahi's release last year, BP acknowledged that it urged the British government to sign a prisoner transfer agreement with Libya, but stressed it didn't specify his case. It reiterated that stance this week when four U.S. Democratic senators asked the State Department to investigate whether there was a quid pro quo for the Lockerbie bomber's release.
"The evidence here may be circumstantial but if I were a prosecutor, I'd love to take this case to a jury," said New York Sen. Charles Schumer...

No Link Between BP And Lockerbie Release: UK Envoy -- [NPR news blog]
Many people for obvious reasons are more than willing to believe the worst about BP.
So when stories circulated this week that the company had lobbied for Scotland to release convicted Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi in order to secure an oil deal with Libya, many BP haters were perfectly ready to believe that.
But the United Kingdom's ambassador to the U.S., Nigel Sheinwald, says BP played no such a role in the al-Megrahi affair.
The envoy explained in an open letter to Sen. John Kerry, chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee...

UK's Cameron: Releasing Lockerbie Bomber Was Wrong -- [AP]
"As leader of opposition, I couldn't have been more clear that I thought the decision to release al-Megrahi was completely and utterly wrong," Cameron told the BBC before leaving Tuesday on his first visit as British leader to the United States, where he is expected to face questioning about the case.
In fact, Cameron's political party did more than just condemn the former Libyan intelligence agent's release. In the weeks following, Britain's Conservatives called for an inquiry into whether trade considerations played any role in the decision.
The party has changed tack, however, since taking control in May of Britain's government in a coalition. Cameron's Downing Street office said a government-commissioned inquiry was "not currently under consideration."
Cameron emphasized that the final decision to release al-Megrahi was made by Scotland's government, which holds some limited powers within the United Kingdom, and not by the previous British government headed by Prime Minister Gordon Brown.


U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD

As Cameron and Obama Meet, BP Will Be Top Issue -- [NY Times]
On the eve of a White House meeting with President Obama, Prime Minister David Cameron on Monday stepped into the furor over BP's lobbying for a prisoner-transfer agreement between Britain and Libya by saying he considered the release of the convicted Lockerbie bomber from a Scottish prison last year to be "completely and utterly wrong."
Ten weeks after taking office, Mr. Cameron is making his first visit to the United States as prime minister. He and Mr. Obama have a ledger of issues to discuss, including the Cameron government's decision to set an end date of 2015 for Britain's combat role in Afghanistan...

Afghanistan tops agenda for British PM's visit -- [Washington Times]
The White House on Monday said the war in Afghanistan is "first and foremost" on the agenda for Prime Minister David Cameron's first Washington visit with President Obama, but the new British leader will be walking a political tightrope over the release of the Lockerbie bomber amid questions from Congress about whether BP had a role in the decision.
The meeting Tuesday comes as operations in Afghanistan are at a pivotal point...


WELCOME HOME

Homecoming -- [Rajiv Srinivasan - home from Afghanistan]
..."All 5th Brigade Personnel bound for Joint-Base Lewis-McChord, we'll be boarding you at Gate 4 in five minutes," announced an airline representative over the intercom. A smile broke across my face. I was heading home. I was almost done. This war was over for me, and I could wash my hands of it for at least a year or two. I jumped up from my seat, gave one last grin at the run way, knowing I'd be on it in just a few moments.
"Hey Raj," called out my friend James, a West Point classmate in the brigade.
"What's going on brother?! Ready to kick this pig?!" I slapped him enthusiastically on the back.
"Rajiv...something's happened." James voice became quiet...


STRATEGY & TACTICS

ISAF, SCR Address Military ROE and Tactical Directives -- [ISAF]
"Our rules of engagement are solid, and they have not changed," said Blotz. "They are based on international law and are standardized across 47 nations, and describe the circumstances and limitations under which forces will begin or continue to engage in combat. This defines the"right and left limits" of what we will allow our forces to do as they fight."
...He added that the tactical directives tell troops what they should do while the rules of engagement instruct them what they can do. In an example he describes the difference between the two directives.
"If our troops are fired upon from a compound, under the laws of armed conflict...international law, that compound is a legal target," the general said. "However, the current tactical directive will ask our troops to consider the minimal level of force that's required to handle the situation."
...At the moment, the application of the current tactical directive is being reviewed to ensure it is consistently being used across our force.
"It is important to remember that [ISAF] military forces always retain the right to self defense, if commanders believe their forces are in danger they are required to make decisions to protect themselves," said Blotz..


SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY

Raytheon's pain gun finally gets deployed in Afghanistan (update: recalled) -- [Engadget]
t's been six long years since we first got wind of the Pentagon's Active Denial System, and four since it was slated to control riots in Iraq, but though we've seen reporters zapped by the device once or twice, it seems the Air Force-approved pain gun is only now entering service in Afghanistan...
Update: Sorry folks, false alarm -- a Air Force spokesperson just informed us that though the pain gun was indeed sent to Afghanistan, it's now being returned to the US without ever seeing use.


Pain Ray Recalled From Afghanistan -- [Noah Shachtman/Danger Room]
...The system's tactical advantages are far outweighed by the strategically-massive propaganda boost that the pain ray would've given the Taliban.

The Active Denial System: the weapon that's a hot topic -- [The Telegraph (UK)]
In 2007, with the situation in Iraq at its most volatile since the invasion, US forces requested the presence of the ADS. It was never sent. Indeed, The Daily Telegraph has learnt that it has now been recalled from Afghanistan, without being fired in anger...
...Other problems come from the limitations of the device itself. Rain, snow and fog hamper its effectiveness, and it can be blocked by highly reflective materials such as aluminium foil...
Yet even if the ADS falls short, the ongoing pressure to keep the civilian body count to a minimum has made the development of similar weapons a top priority for Western forces. The ADS is only one of a raft of new non-lethal measures the US has been developing, under varying levels of secrecy...

World's Fastest Helicopter Boosts Battle Against Insurgents -- [ISAF]
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...The aircraft's value in the battle against insurgents lies in its versatile performance. The Lynx crews can track insurgent movements and watch over vulnerable areas with its sophisticated surveillance camera. This "overwatch" capability helps in the protection of the massive convoys used to re-supply front line troops in the forward operating bases.
The convoys can be vulnerable to attack as they track across vast swathes of desert from base to base but with the Lynx and its formidable weapons systems circling above, the insurgents stay away...




POLITICS

Is it time for a real GI Jane? -- [CNN]


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