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 Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! November 9, 2009 What the "C" stands forBy GreyhawkPvt Joseph Foster is yet another soldier reporting that Nidal Hasan shouted "Allah Akbar" when he began firing last week - but Foster made the mistake of saying it on CNN:
Foster was not only there, not only sitting in the second row - he was one of those wounded in the attack. But two minutes later in the interview, Foster would try to downplay Roberts' implication that he was a hero:
Meaning very specifically that an adrenaline rush can help you overcome pain - or in Foster's case forget you've been shot. That's a common combat story, but true of any violent situation. But here's how CNN is reporting their own interview now:
And hero or not, that's what you get for telling CNN something they don't want to hear. Update: Turns out the "C" stands for "cover-up". CNN has deleted the story and replaced it with another one at the same url. No doubt that can be explained as a "re-write" - of course, no explanation is provided. (Common practice among news organizations these days.) That first mistake was not a transcription error or a typo, nor was Pvt Foster's meaning unclear. Two comments delivered two minutes apart were combined to make one that meant exactly the opposite of what he said. However. the same passage can still be found in this CNN report (for now) - they really wanted people to get the message.The original CNN story (headlined Fort Hood Shooting Suspect Conscious, Talking, Hospital Says) can still be found at other locations. Another of Pvt Foster's quotes deserves attention - this one about Ft Hood: "The community came together, it's like a giant family. When anything like this happens, we just get stronger, become better united." True of anywhere I've ever been stationed - and that message should be delivered loud and clear. From the day this story broke, CNN has run with a storyline that the killer's actions are typical of all military members - that he's a typical soldier - which means his victims were just like him. As evidence to the contrary mounted they ignored it, but here they willfully and intentionally re-wrote an eyewitness account to make it fit their narrative - something altogether different. This isn't the only example from the Ft Hood story that proves once again if you get your news from television and newspapers you're getting something other than news. By the way, per comments below, in the rewritten story Pvt Foster's first name is now being reported as Robert - in the original it was Joseph. Sounds like someone was in a hurry. Sloppy coverup work all around. Still more - CNN's lie spreads:
I hope Pvt. Foster and the other survivors don't end up being punished for this. Posted by Greyhawk / November 9, 2009 4:32 PM | Permalink 4 TrackBacksCNN interviews Pvt Joseph Foster, a soldier who was wounded at Fort Hood. Here’s part of the transcript: I was sitting in about the second row back when the assailant stood up, screamed and yelled Allah Akbar (ph) in Arabic and he opened fire. A ... Read More I'm beginning to wonder about their sanity. Will they crack up in their defense of the indefensible narrative? The CNN interview: ROBERTS: So you were acting like a soldier. You were acting heroically. We should point out that you're with... Read More CNN:Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in last week's mass shooting at the Fort Hood Army Post, is conscious and talking, according to a spokesman for the Army hospital where he is being treated.The story doesn't say what he's talking about. Most jiha... Read More Jihadist battle cry is called 'speculation': FORT HOOD -- One of the most sensational allegations stemming from last week's shooting spree at Fort Hood was a claim that Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "Allahu akbar!" before firing into scores of soldier... Read More 28 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Sadly - a classic.
The need to put out a retraction.
I've been watching CNN try to justify this killer's behavior by blaming it on everything from PTSD to discrimination.
There's no merit to talking to CNN.
Wow. Even for CNN, that's impressive spin.
I recall that Ted Turner was thinking about trying to regain control of CNN. I can't imagine he'd make it worse.
What is CNN?
Just when you think things can't get any more off-the-wall. Seriously, CNN? Do you think people don't see what you are trying to do?
I honor Pvt. Foster, but maybe he will learn not to talk to CNN.
They're not a real news organization.
If we wish really hard, won't it come true?
He may not be 1000% sure about Allah Akbar but he sure remembered his training his Sergeant drilled into his head and went for cover. He also remembered never listen to a Major yelling Allah Akbar they may get you killed.
You know, it talks A LOT to disgust me anymore when it comes to the press. However, you know what?
That's revolting. Really, really obscene.
On a day when we should be remembering and celebrating the fall of the Berlin Wall and the fall of Soviet Communism, I feel like we're taking a huge step backwards.
oops - that should have been "..it TAKES a lot..."
ABC has Keara Bono also flat-out saying she heard it, so it's well past time for this talk of it being "unconfirmed" to go away.
Yah, right.
So let me see: you forget what you remember and temporary memory loss due to stress is a permanent condition.
And of course if you forget once, future remembering doesn't count.
I think I could fit that logic on a pretzel.
Yeah, CNN is just a mouthpiece for the Democrat Party.
CNN is not credible.
Remember that CNN is the "news" organization that for most of a decade suppressed any information it came across about the daily atrocities, torture, murders, dismemberments, shreddings, disembowelments, beheadings, finger and toe removals, and such done to Iraqis by Saddam and his thugs, JUST SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR OFFICES OPEN in Baghdad.
This much CNN News Chief admitted in his open letter to the New York Times, immediately after the US invasion toppled Saddam's government.
You have to ask why was it worth it to Eason Jordan to make that deal with Saddam?
The only thing I've ever been able to figure is that (1) any idiot could see that Saddam was steering Iraq toward another war with the US; (2) The US had already demonstrated that its weapons were able to target individual buildings with almost zero damage to neighboring civilians and structures; (3) as a result, CNN would be guaranteed a front-row seat at one of the most spectacular fireworks displays in history, if only they could avoid losing their ringside privileges.
Souls of pure excrement. Lying to the US for a decade,telling us Saddam was a sweet guy while our government was trying to tell us the truth.
They have only gotten more insane and perverse.
Communist News Network is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Democratic Party. They suppress news, make deals with dictators, fail to use the same reporting standards with liberals as they do with conservatives, report out of context (which is the kind way of stating what they've done here), lie (which is the harsh but more accurate way of putting it), ignore news that is damaging to the liberal agenda, inflate news that is damaging to the conservatives, use character assassination, and a lot of other hogwash. Yet the mainstream media decries the following that bloggers get. If the mainstream media reported fairly, the bloggers would not have a following.
Looks like they edited out the aburd, offensive paragraph. And of course, they made no notation about revising it. I also like how the article is uncredited, so no one can be held responsible.
The "with that much adrenaline, you tend to forget things" paragraph has been sent down the memory hole, without a notice of correction.
CNN has rewritten the article to remove that phony portion. But mistakes live on, and you will find that phony portion reported as fact elsewhere, like here:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/military/69629042.html
Not only have they removed the faulty memory line, the Private is now named Robert Foster rather than Joseph Foster...
WTF?
On the over all assessment of CNN I agree but they were one of the first to report what I believe to be the fact that Sgt Mark Todd took down Major Jihad. Most other reports either make nod mention to him as 'her partner' or ignore his actions and existence altogether. The narrative of a woman wounded and winning over the chauvanist manic muslim is just too rich for the media regardless of the facts. They adhere to my yarn spinning grand father's axiom. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Don't spoil the spiel.
Things are really getting just like an Orwell novel aren't they? Newspeak. Here we have a "real news" channel actually lying about and changing eyewitness quotes to serve CNN's political agenda. And that political agenda involves protecting a mass murderer to lessen the publics awareness of a muslim terror attack. To use the NYT's favorite phrase; "some say" CNN is falsefying eyewitness statements to protect an Al Qaeda agent. Any yes Chrissy "Tingles" Matthews, calling a known , banned, Terrorist organization IS a crime.
This is what happens when there is a "compliant" press. Some reporter gets pulled aside by a much-higher-up (who's been contacted by a government quisling urgently requesting "cooperation in preventing those crazy gun-toting right-wingers in flyover country from doing anything rash") and told "We don't want to be inciting any backlash here, we don't want to be blamed if some Angry American throws a bacon-wrapped Koran thru a mosque window somewhere. Let's keep it all vague, let's play down the jihad angle, after all we don't know FOR SURE that this Army shrink wasn't totally nutso himself. If we can blame garden-variety crazy, then the hoi polloi who read our articles won't get the idea there are fundamentalist mosques inciting fundamentalist Muslims in every major city in the USA. We want to be an instrument of peace, doncha know? So in our narrative, see, the Islam angle is out."
I know what the "C" in CNN stands for, and it isn't "cover-up", and it ends in "t".
I stopped watching CNN long ago ... and earlier cancelled my subscriptions to NEWSWEEK, TIME and the AARP.
For a more extensive comment on CNN's review, recommend you visit:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/fort-hood-massacre-a-day-of-courage-and-cowardice/
comments by Bruce Bawer whose recent book "SURRENDER, Appeasing Islam, Sacrificing Freedom" expands on many related disturbing issues.
CNN
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The very fundamental beliefs of Islam make them unacceptable for integration in any society except other Islamic communities. Read their Quaran for crying out loud.