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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! November 7, 2009 Names chosen at randomBy GreyhawkThe New York Times original headline read 'Obama Reminds Nation of Military's Diversity' - but for whatever reason that's been rewritten to 'Obama Urges No 'Jump to Conclusions'. I prefer the first. Fortunately, the sentiment as expressed in the first line of the story remains intact: WASHINGTON -- President Obama, extending condolences to the community at Fort Hood, Tex., reminded Americans on Saturday that people of "every race, faith and station" serve in the military...And that's a powerful thought. Tragically, nothing defines that diversity as well as the victims of Hasan's shooting spree. The violence might not be random, but the identities of the victims of his spray and pray assault in a crowded room offer us a much more powerful message than the identity of their killer ever could. Names have not been officially released, but around the country family members have been notified... The youngest was 19, the oldest, 62. Many were health care professionals. One, 51-year old Russell Seager, was described by his uncle as a man who "joined the Army a few years back because he was a psychiatrist who wanted to help returning veterans adapt back to civilian life." The names have now been officially released. Some might see them as victims of fate, others might cite the will of God; here are the names of the people killed by Nidal Malik Hasan, as released by the DoD:
Pvt. Francheska Velez, 21, of Chicago, Ill. She was assigned to the 15th Combat Support Battalion, Fort Hood. Spc. Jason Hunt, 22, of Tillman, Okla. He was assigned to the 1st Brigade, Fort Hood. Pfc. Michael Pearson, 22, of Bolinbrook, Ill. He was assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood. Spc. Kham Xiong, 23, of St. Paul, Minn. He was assigned to the 510th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, Fort Hood. Spc. Frederick Greene, 29, of Mountain City, Tenn. He was assigned to the 16th Signal Company, Fort Hood. Sgt. Amy Krueger, 29, of Kiel, Wis. She was assigned to the 467th Medical Company, Madison, Wis. Staff Sgt. Justin Decrow, 32, of Plymouth, Ind. He was assigned to the 16th Signal Company, Fort Hood. Capt. Russell Seager, 41, of Racine, Wis. He was assigned to the 467th Medical Company, Madison. Maj. Libardo Caraveo, 52, of Woodbridge, Va. He was assigned to the 467th Medical Detachment, Madison, Wis. Capt. John P. Gaffaney, 54, of San Diego, Calif. He was assigned to the 1908th Medical Company, Independence, Mo. Lt. Col. Juanita L. Warman, 55, of Havre De Grace, Md. She was assigned to the 1908th Medical Company, Independence, Mo. Michael Cahill, 62, of Cameron, Texas. (CWO, retired) He was a civilian employee at Fort Hood. The story isn't just about Ft Hood, and it certainly isn't about a deranged killer. It's about Americans - men, women, young and old. Eduardo Caraveo was born in Mexico and immigrated to this country over 30 years ago; the others were from hometowns dotted all across the USA - literally North, South, East and West - and their families' roots stretched around the world. Like the military as a whole they indeed represent the diversity of this nation and the best it has to offer, and are united not by their deaths at the hands of a maniac but by service to the country in which they fell. Why do they hate us? was a popular question in the wake of 9/11. To this day the answer is debated, but rarely since then have we had such a stark reminder of who they hate. Read the story here. ![]() Posted by Greyhawk / November 7, 2009 2:52 PM | Permalink 3 TrackBacksPvt Joseph Foster is yet another soldier reporting that Nidal Hasan shouted "Allah Akbar" when he began firing last week - but Foster made the mistake of saying it on CNN:Roberts: So the first moments of Thursday afternoon, can you tell our viewers, yo... Read More We ran the live video feed of the DOD briefing with former Army Secretary Togo West and Adm. Vern Clark (Ret.) on the release of their Ft Hood shooting review last week. Since then, some early reviews are in. Bill Bennett calls it a "whitewash."Titled,... Read More A story from last year... ***** "Even though we lost our fallen comrades ...no one is going to stop us from completing our mission." -- 1st Sgt. James McLeod, 467th Medical Detachment This is how it is, mostly: no brass bands... Read More 5 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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diversity.... and do you wonder if any of these might also have been Muslim? if Hasan didn't want to deploy because he might have to kill Muslims, how did he know he wasn't killing a Muslim on his shooting spree?
No matter what anyone says about the motives for this shooting, it wasn't about religion. It was about terrorism and violence. Hasan's and no one else. And there is no justification for that. ever.
"Some might see them as victims of fate, others might cite the will of God;"
This was not "Fate" nor was it the "will of God" this is about one person, who for whatever derranged and selfish reasons decided to plan and execute a mass murder. Obviously it was his intention to be a "suicide". I really hope that this perpetrator survives to face those family members of the slain and the survivors of this brutal attack. I cannot even comprehend just how many articles he would be tried under, but I certainly hope that he comes out of his coma and is tried. What "defense" could any lawyer possibly present to "defend" this treason?
It does not matter what his excuses are, what his "reasons" were. As I have always told my kids, "Don't try to make sense of something like this, it will never 'make sense', because crazy does not make sense". In my book he falls in the same category with bundy, gace, and every damn insurgent who does not care who they kill as long as they are able to fufill their need to kill.
This was a choice plain and simple. For those slain, wounded and their families, My deepest condolances, thoughts and prayers.
It was not "fate" nor was it the "will of God", it was this self obsessed man's choice.
I wish I could see his face when (I hope) he wakes up. He deserves and has more than earned every moment of anguish that he lives through. I am praying that he comes out of his coma, is rehabilitated and faces trial.
Hmm...the rancid bacon query again, "Why do they hate us?" If one is concerned about the feelings of such people, I suggest more vigorous action is necessary, and change hate into fear. 'Nemo me impune lacessit', or 'Oderint dum metuant' Or, in 'Merican, "Nuts".
Every media story that suggests that Hassan's behavior is common among soldiers, that he's just another soldier who couldn't take it any more, is a direct assault on the lives of the people he killed, and every member of the US military today.
And nothing counters that better than an examination of the lives of the people he killed.
He's not insane. He's a killer, and he should never be declared typical of his victims - but that's exactly what cable news has tried to do from before his identity was known.
He isn't one of us. He is not our brother-in-arms, and it shouldn't surprise me that no one outside the military gets that, and equates him to his victims. As was posted in a comment very early here: "To me, this is just a guy that, for whatever reason, decided to cut ranks and join the other side."
Your last comment is right.
He is an Islamic radical terrorist, who waited in sheep's clothing for the right time to attack. The soldiers who died, died on a battlefield. Just like we don't allow our enemies to choose how and when to fight us, unfortunately this time he used the advantage of surprise against us.
I don't like calling him deranged or a maniac, because I feel like that undercuts the sacrifice of the soldiers who were killed, and downplays the danger of Islamic radicals. He was our ENEMY, and he knew what he was doing.