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 Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! October 20, 2009 Seymour Hersh: military hates Obama because they're racists and he's blackBy GreyhawkAlso missing from the vague accusations leveled at the general is some sort of motive for his behavior. No one has accused him of racism yet...Here's why I said "yet": The army is also "in a war against the White House -- and they feel they have [President] Obama boxed in," Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Seymour Hersh told several hundred people in Duke University's Page Auditorium on Tuesday night. "They think he's weak and the wrong color. Yes, there's racism in the Pentagon. We may not like to think that, but it's true and we all know it." Hersh is so far off the mark here it would be astounding - if this were anyone other than Seymour Hersh. Given that much of the "rift" he's squawking about is a well-choreographed show for one man's consumption (not that "the Pentagon" enjoys its part in the play - they understand the additional consequences, but ultimately they do follow orders) the remainder of his ravings - racist and otherwise - appear all the more clueless. But again, that's typical Seymour Hersh. But is there anyone out there ignorant and gullible enough to unquestioningly swallow whatever junk Seymour spews? Yes. So many of the saner people were driven out of the military during the Bush administration, it doesn't surprise me that the people left include a lot of the right-wing, racist fringe elements. Update - in case you think Hersh hates anyone more than he does American soldiers, here's a blast from the past:
Hersh also has accused American soldiers of committing atrocities in the 1991 Gulf War. He's one of those guys who imagines those big bullies that used to flush his head in the high school toilet every day all grew up and joined the army. More: It should also be noted that typical follow-up statements from Hersh on stories like this include: "I actually didn't quite say what I wanted to say correctly. It wasn't that inaccurate, but it was misstated. The next thing I know, it was all over the blogs." And "Vice president Cheney does not have a death squad. This is another example of blogs going bonkers with misleading and fabricated stories and professional journalists repeating such rumours without doing their job - and that is to verify such rumours." And "oh God of God please stop hitting me and tell Senator Kennedy I swear I won't do it again." Posted by Greyhawk / October 20, 2009 8:14 PM | Permalink 2 TrackBacksTrackBack URL: http://www.mudvillegazette.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-tb.cgi/16829 From the always fascinating Seymour Hersh: "A lot of people in the Pentagon would like to see him [Obama] get into trouble," he said. By leaking information that the commanding officer in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, says the war wou... Read More Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world. If you're a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link to any of these stories, add a ... Read More 6 CommentsLeave a comment |
March 19, 2010Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003 [Greyhawk]
"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world." Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...
Updating... more to follow.... MILBOGSAndrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun. Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit. Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio? Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking. Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way. Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch! Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location: Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.
BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon. Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt... Iraqi BlogsSalam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house... American BlogsGlenn Reynold's has a ton of links. Newpapers
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Sad thing is that the answer to both of the following questions is probably "no":
1) has Hersh been in the Pentagon in recent memory?
2) has Hersh talked to anyone on active duty in the military in recent memory?
and, worse, people who don't know any better about Hersh AND who don't know anyone or many people in the military will take his comments at face value....especially when they throw in that "Pulitzer-prize winning reporter" bit.
Sigh. Y'all who serve/have served deserve so much better.
Heh - Lisa, Hersh never visits with or talks to anyone who actually has a name they'd be willing to see in print in a Seymour Hersh story.
Commenters on the Herald-Sun article are doing a good job of providing some perspective. Yay.
I do not know Hersh, but he seems of the same stripe as the press traitors we had during Nam- the more I read and hear, the more convinced I am that some people just should not write or say anything- period.
It only reveals their stupidity.
When I was in the Navy (many, many years ago), about 19 out of every 20 sailors voted for Reagan. From all races, and all parts of the country. They did so because they were patriots, and because the most recent democrat president was a pathetic joke. Jimmy Carter nearly brought the country to destruction by being fool and a dupe, Obama seems to be trying to do the same thing intentionally.
If you want to see where the thought process comes from that leads to a view of the Military that Hersh has. Go to the link below and read the comments.
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/sy-hersh-military-war-against-white-h