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September 27, 2009

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Moving Parts

By Greyhawk

Bob Woodward, the Washington Post, Today (September 27) "No Deadline Set for Decision on Troops":

President Obama has not set a deadline for determining a new strategy or for committing more troops to the war in Afghanistan, despite an urgent request from his top commander, his national security adviser said Saturday.
Yochi J. Dreazen and Peter Spiegel, The Wall Street Journal, August 10 (headline: Taliban Now Winning - U.S. Commander in Afghanistan Warns of Rising Casualties):

The timing of Gen. McChrystal's primary assessment remains in flux. It was initially due in mid-August, but the commander was summoned to a secret meeting in Belgium last week with Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and told to take more time. Military officials say the assessment will now be released sometime after the Aug. 20 vote.

The shift came amid signs of growing U.S. unease about the direction of the war effort. Initial assessments delivered to Gen. McChrystal last month warned that the Taliban were strengthening their control over Kandahar, the largest city in southern Afghanistan.

Back to today:
"I don't think anybody in the allied effort seriously thinks that Afghanistan is about to fall to the Taliban," Jones said. He added that two-thirds of Afghans live in areas that are "completely under government and local control, and are doing reasonably well."
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Jones said the challenges Obama faces in the Afghan war are more "complex" and "bigger than the surge" decision President George W. Bush faced in Iraq three years ago.
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"This is bigger than the surge," Jones said. "This is more complex. There are more moving parts."

I don't think anybody in the allied effort seriously thinks that there are any moving parts on this end. But "the challenges Obama faces in the Afghan war are more "complex" and "bigger than the surge" decision President George W. Bush faced in Iraq three years ago" is most definitely the message being sent here.


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(Part one here.) This quote...Asked why al-Qaeda, which is comparatively safe in its current sanctuaries in Pakistan, would want to return to Afghanistan, where more than 100,000 U.S. and NATO troops are stationed, Jones said, "That's a good question. ... Read More

Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world. If you're a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link to any of these stories, add a ... Read More

One hour on war from Mudville Gazette on September 28, 2009 3:57 PM

Actually, 13 minutes. But General McChrystal is obviously capable of providing a lot of information in minimum time. No surprise in that. It's a good thing, sez I, that America got a chance to meet the man who's been leading a war they've only heard ab... Read More

One hour on war from Mudville Gazette on September 28, 2009 3:57 PM

Actually, 13 minutes. But General McChrystal is obviously capable of providing a lot of information in minimum time. No surprise in that. It's a good thing, sez I, that America got a chance to meet the man who's been leading a war they've only heard ab... Read More

Tracking from Mudville Gazette on September 28, 2009 5:00 PM

May: President Barack Obama meets with Lt. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the new U.S. Commander for Afghanistan, in the Oval Office Tuesday, May 19, 2009. (Official White House photo by Pete Souza) June: August 10:...Gen. McChrystal's coming report won't... Read More

Smokescreen from Mudville Gazette on October 10, 2009 7:48 AM

When you want to know at least one side of the story of the political battles in Washington, Joe Klein is as good a source as any:In fact, most of the hoo-hah about Obama's Afghanistan strategy review has been a matter of smoke and mirrors....Why, then... Read More

When it comes to Afghanistan - America's top national security concern today - the "leaks" from the administration have amounted to a flood, with new and seemingly contradictory reports appearing daily in the global media. It's been going on for months... Read More

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I thought this Commander in Chief said he was able to multi task. He had a plan during the campaign, he had a plan on March 27th. He appointed the General he wanted in McChrystal and COIN. What did he think that Drones would hold ground and win harts and minds of the people? I can't imagine that this is going over well with our allies and soldiers on the ground.

Sanmon I think he's doing a degree of multi-tasking, consulting, and delegating that would make your head spin. I know it does mine.

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March 19, 2010


Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003
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"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world."

Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...

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(More front pages here.)

Updating... more to follow....

MILBOGS

Andrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun.

Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit.

Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio?

Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking.

Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way.

Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch!

Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location:
From: Public Works Department
To: Saddam Hussein
Subj: BLASTING OPERATIONS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack

Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.

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BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon.

Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt...

Iraqi Blogs

Salam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house...

American Blogs

Glenn Reynold's has a ton of links.

Newpapers

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Updating... more to follow....


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