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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! June 19, 2009 Stupid things to say...By Greyhawk...to anyone preparing to deploy to a combat zone - or their family members (part 9,000): "My husband has actually had someone say to him that at least his upcoming deployment is to Afghanistan, which serves a purpose and has meaning, unlike Iraq." That from our friend Sarah, who is struggling with this one...
She's seeking motivation. Read the whole thing, perhaps you can help. Posted by Greyhawk / June 19, 2009 3:29 PM | Permalink 4 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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The American Military does not make the decision to start or end a war. War is a decision made by political leaders - the President who makes the call to go with Congressional approval and funding. The role of the American Military is to follow the lawful order(s) of the Commander-in-Chief, the President. It is the foundation of our continued democratic experiment that our Military obeys its political leadership, even when such leadership is wrong in its decision making
For those who say Iraq is a mistake, I always ask if they truly believe that, then we as a country should do what is the proper thing that should be done when a mistake is made - as best we can, put it back like it was before the mistake was made. I then ask how many people would want Sadam Hussien, or someone like him, to be restored to the same power and military potential as existed before America went into Iraq? I have yet to find one person who says they want that to happen, and in the end, everyone, regardless of their political leanings, or feelings about war, says essentially the same thing "he was an evil tyrant and we are glad he is gone..."
I have also said this in response to claims that Iraq is another Viet Nam - "when we left Viet Nam we did not have to worry about them following us home and trying to kill us on our own land. The forces we fight in Iraq, and now around the world, leave us no choice but to take the fight to them on their turf and tie up their resources somewhere else so they do not have the same level of leathality they would otherwise have to effect an attack on our own shores."
We fight a foe that will take lives of our brave American Military Personnel for generations to come, maybe forever. Radical fanaticism can only be stamped out one way - with the evil tyrancial controls of its people and society such as Saddam Hussien and his sons effected. Such is not the way America will fight or govern, nor should it.
In my opinion, we are not fighting a war of attrition, or a war that can be won in the traditional sense in Iraq or Afghanistan or the next country that it will spread to. We fight a war that very likely will never end, at least so long as radical fanaticism is a cult whose following is underpinned by religious teachings that has not been properly denounced or deprived by the very religious authorities who are themselves hijacked in the process. And until those very hijacked religious leaders stand as clearly and strongly as those on Flight 93 did and say we are not going to be victims and we are going to take on the hijackers, then the radical fundalmentalism and extremism that is Al Qaeda and its knock-offs will continue to be a force America must fight.
proud dad SGT Mike Stokely
KIA 16 AUG 05 near Yusufiyah Iraq
USA E 108 CAV 48th BCT GAARNG
Well said Robert.
Robert you just reminded me of this quote from a great book, which I then left at Sarah's blog:
"Do you hate me, Lady? ... Were I you I would."
"I will never tell the city why I appointed these three hundred. I will never tell the Three Hundred themselves. But I now tell you.
"I chose them not for their own valor, lady, but for that of their women...
"Greece stands now on her most perilous hour. If she saves herself, it will not be at the Gates ...but later, in battles yet to come, by land and sea.Then Greece, if the gods will it, will preserve herself...
"When the battle is over, when the 300 have gone down to death, then will all Greece look to the Spartans, to see how they bear it.
"But who, ladies, who will the Spartans look to? To you. To you and the other wives and mothers, sisters and daughters of the fallen.
"If they behold your hearts riven and broken with grief, they too will break. And Greece will break with them. But if you bear up, dry-eyed, not alone enduring your loss but seizing it with contempt for it's agony and embracing it as the honor that it is in truth, then Sparta will stand and all Hellas will stand behind her.
"Why have I nominated you, lady, to bear up beneath this most terrible of trials, you and your sisters of the Three Hundred? Because you can."
- Leonidas, in Stephen Pressfield's Gates of Fire.
Robert, thank you very much for your comments, especially your last paragraph.
And Greyhawk, thank you for honoring me with that passage, which is one of my favorites and one I try to live up to all the time.