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June 12, 2009

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Work on "think"

By Greyhawk

Hey - I'm a conservative this week!

But later on Fox, New York Post columnist Ralph Peters attacked Smith and Herridge for claiming that the shooting “validated” the DHS report.

Though some conservatives have concluded that the recent string of right-wing violence has “vindicated” the DHS report, many others agree with Peters. Michelle Malkin, who led the charge against the DHS report, approvingly linked to a milblogger that called Smith and Herridge “pathetic” for reconsidering the report. Malkin’s Hot Air colleague, Ed Morrissey, defends the criticism of the report by claiming that it didn’t “mention anti-semitism at all.”

See the linked word "agree"? That's me! And I'm "pathetic", too! Er, actually I'm "a milblogger that called Smith and Herridge "pathetic" for reconsidering the report."

Hey - wait a minute, lemme check something here...

A biography of Brunn posted on the site says he is a World War II veteran who served time in federal prison for trying to make a "citizens arrest" of Federal Reserve Board members in 1981.
If that's all on which Smith and Herridge are basing their claims of vindication regarding the veteran threat, they're pathetic.
Crap - I was actually directly addressing an accusation against veterans. But if my fellow veteran Ralph Peters said something...
Neil, I gotta say something. On Fox News of all places in the last hour I heard that this tragic incident at the Holocaust Museum somehow validates the disgraceful report from the Department of Homeland Security warning about a terror threat from our returning veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan. Neil, this guy served in World War Two. He's been out of the military 64 years.
Double crap! - he was talking very specifically about veterans, too. But he's a conservative, right??... but crap again! I actually wrote my bit before he said that, and added him in an update. Dammit, I was just responding to a moronic claim about vets.

Then again - Michelle Malkin linked me! She's conservative, ergo so am I. But wait! The quote I opened this entry with, wherein I am linked twice, is from Think Progress, obviously a "progressive" web site, so I must be a "progressive" too...

Wait a minute! - I very specifically called Smith and Herridge pathetic for claiming vindication on a very specific claim about Iraq and Afghan vets on the actions of a (then-alleged) WWII vet - and not, per Think Progress, for their 'reconsidering the report'. And so did Peters! If that wasn't clear enough, I reiterated it with even more detail after actually quoting the DHS report in my post: "Smith and Herridge know they're talking about a guy who claims to be an 89-year old WWII veteran. Unless he crashed a PT boat through the front doors of the Holocaust Museum, any military training from back in '42 was not a factor." In fact, never in the entire piece did I take issue with the accuracy of the report itself. In fact, outside the direct quote from the DHS report (which I didn't refute) contained in my post I never even used "Right" Left" "Conservative" "Liberal" "Republican" "Democrat" -- or any of the many other terms that my post wasn't about. I even warned people not to assume they knew what I thought of the DHS report. Later, in comments, I pointed out a similar interpretation error made by a mistaken commenter and he or she apologized, as did I for my over-sensitive response.

So how did the folks at Think Progress get it so wrong? Do you suppose it's possible that they didn't even read my post? Or that they did but couldn't understand my concrete terminology?...

Wait - it gets better! I scrolled through the 75 comments currently at the Think Progress post to see if any one of the 30 people who bothered to follow those links over here and actually read my work for themselves had corrected. No again! (But there are several sneering at all the conservatives/Right Wingers who've never even read the DHS report!!!...) As far as I can tell, at Think Progress they're all "progress" and zero "think".

Aha! I must be conservative because now I've indiscriminately criticized "progressives" for believing anything they're told! But that's wrong again - because here's Mahablog (who I've linked previously on one of my defenses of President Obama - gasp!). They understood and concur with my point exactly (even though they see me as a right-wing blogger). And here's my old friend (I mean that) The Gun Toting Liberal who links to my follow-on post where I point out that with one exception no one deserves to be linked to this alleged J-school grad who (like John F Kennedy) was a PT boat captain in WWII. Here's the tricky, confusing way I worded that:

...no one (other than fellow Nazis - and some of them will probably deny him) deserves to be associated with this sumbitch. In his 90 years on this earth (which he probably wanted to end guns blazing) this dirt bag probably did many things (including - like Hitler - "art") - most of which neither define him or reflect on others who did - or do - those things.
Once again I avoided right/left etc. - but yes, from "no one" you can infer correctly that I've made a CLEAR point regarding any group other than Nazis. (And I was right about that "some will deny" bit, too.)

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In a moment of sublime synchronicity, two days before the shooting I had written this comment on another post:

RAH
Something to ponder: Is an organization "liberal" if it's employees must fear veering from an rigid orthodoxy?

Even the people Rush Limbaugh calls "liberal" prefer to be called "progressive" now. ( I prefer "Leftist" but that's inadequate too.) One can dislike the direction in which they want to "progress", but it's more appropriate than Liberal, which absolutely doesn't fit the unquestioning acceptance of approved dogma that membership in the club requires.

As for the Leftist sobriquet, I consider that misleading because from my point of view they - like extreme Right Wing ideologues, share one end of a spectrum with me in the middle and anarchists on the other end. Maybe my group should be called the "tolerants". (It's tough to get us to impose our beliefs on others though...)

Anyhow, your comment got me thinking about that. Thanks.

But one thing does tend to get me pissed off - people who blindly, willfully, and unquestioningly believe what they're told. Bad things follow.


Next post - unless some Leftist whack job offs me for being an Iraq war vet - I'll actually write what I think of the DHS report(s) - which I've all but ignored up until now. At this point it's only fair. (Hint: "it's prescient" - I've already said that here...)


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March 19, 2010


Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003
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"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world."

Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...

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(More front pages here.)

Updating... more to follow....

MILBOGS

Andrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun.

Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit.

Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio?

Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking.

Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way.

Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch!

Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location:
From: Public Works Department
To: Saddam Hussein
Subj: BLASTING OPERATIONS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack

Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.

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BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon.

Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt...

Iraqi Blogs

Salam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house...

American Blogs

Glenn Reynolds has a ton of links.

Newpapers

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