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June 10, 2009

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"Told Ya So" - 89 year-old shooter "confirms DHS report"

By Greyhawk

UPDATES HERE

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Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge just announced that the shooting at the Holocaust Museum - allegedly by an 89-year old WWII veteran - confirms a recent DHS report regarding the threat posed by extremist veterans.

Shepard Smith adds "They [DHS] saw the signs, now it has begun". Smith keeps hammering on that angle...

Early reports also indicate the shooter claimed to hold a journalism degree.



AS of now the New York Times reports:

Law enforcement officials said they have long been familiar with Mr. Von Brunn, who has claimed variously to be a member of Mensa, the high-I.Q. fraternity; to have been a P.T. boat captain in World War II and to have been victimized by a court system run by Jews and black people.

Update - earlier video from Herridge and Smith warning America about the veteran threat:


And Herridge just rejoined Smith yet again to note "we can't emphasize enough" the importance of this report. But I don't think you're going to see the smug, triumphant veteran-bashing videos released any time soon.
Fox:
A man named James Von Brunn operates a white supremacist Web site, Holy Western Empire, that carries several anti-Semitic statements. A biography of Brunn posted on the site says he is a World War II veteran who served time in federal prison for trying to make a "citizens arrest" of Federal Reserve Board members in 1981.
If that's all on which Smith and Herridge are basing their claims of vindication regarding the veteran threat, they're pathetic.
More: Here's a screen-cap from the Nazi's web page (click for larger version):
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What biographical bit does he put first? "James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university".

Guess what, Shep - I'm no journalist, but until I confirmed that claim I'd assume he's lying.

And still more: Ralph Peters - appearing on Fox with Neil Cavuto and surprised by what he'd heard earlier on Smith's show, eloquently defends his fellow veterans: "Neil, I gotta say something. On Fox News of all places in the last hour I heard that this tragic incident at the Holocaust Museum somehow validates the disgraceful report from the Department of Homeland Security warning about a terror threat from our returning veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan. Neil, this guy served in World War Two. He's been out of the military 64 years. He wasn't career military, he was a career nut. Ten million Americans served in World War Two, of the millions who survived are you going to put them on a terrorist watch list? It had nothing to do with the Department of Homeland Security report." I'd add that no one has verified that WWII-veteran status yet, but his point is correct. Peters concludes: "You know a question nobody's asked yet? The brave security guard who died saving lives... was he a military veteran?"

Perhaps he was, perhaps he wasn't. No reporter thought to ask.

But you can bet he wasn't a journalist.


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And now - Video - here are a couple clips from the discussion. First - here's the actual veterans quote from the DHS report:

DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists--including lone wolves or small terrorist cells--to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

  • (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans--including Timothy McVeigh--joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups.
  • (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that "large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces."
  • (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups
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As you watch, bear in mind that Smith and Herridge know they're talking about a guy who claims to be an 89-year old WWII veteran. Unless he crashed a PT boat through the front doors of the Holocaust Museum, any military training from back in '42 was not a factor. But Smith wants to make sure you understand very specifically - this is a former military guy, it's not political, social, or anything else:


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And here's Ralph Peters, responding:


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The security guard who gave his life in the line of duty has been identified as Stephen Tyrone Johns.

There are no words to express our grief and shock over today's events at the Museum, which took the life of Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns. Officer Johns, who died heroically in the line of duty, served on the Museum's security staff for six years. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Officer Johns's family. We have made the decision to close the Museum Thursday, June 11, in honor of Officer Johns and our flags will be flown at half mast in his memory.

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Previous posts on the DHS reports here and here and here (really - you might want to read these before deciding you know what I think of the reports.).

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Late update: "FNC Has More Viewers Than CNN/MSNBC Combined During Museum Shooting". Swell.

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Elsewhere:

More blame game. Here's a thought - let's blame the shooter.

Laughing Wolf at Blackfive would like to politely discuss this with Fox advertisers.

And from TSO: Vindication - a must-read. (I'll beg, even: please read it before writing something in the comments here that makes you look really stupid.)

And thanks, John.

And still more here (and thanks Glenn).

And lastly: DHS report confirmed? Well, "heck of a job, Brownie" - keep up the good work.

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The Holocaust Museum Shooting from Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys.. on June 10, 2009 4:58 PM

Interesting how the news works.Greyhawk reports over at Mudville Gazette: Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge just announced that the shooting at the Holocaust Museum - allegedly by an 89-year old WWII veteran - confirms a recent DHS report regarding ... Read More

Before we get into the story, we need to pay respect to Officer Stephen T. Johns, of Temple Hills, Mayland. He was 39 years old, a six year veteran of the museum and gave his life to stop a deranged machine of hate. God bless you and keep you Officer... Read More

Okay - my headline is intended to make a point: no one (other than fellow Nazis - and some of them will probably deny him) deserves to be associated with this sumbitch. In his 90 years on this earth (which he probably wanted to end guns blazing) this d... Read More

Bear watching? from Mudville Gazette on June 11, 2009 8:19 PM

"FNC Has More Viewers Than CNN/MSNBC Combined During Museum Shooting". From 1-5pmET, FNC averaged 1,322,000 Total Viewers and 326,000 in the demo, followed by CNN (824,000 and 126,000) and MSNBC (311,000 and 93,000).And all those Fox viewers learned to... Read More

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Work on "think" from Mudville Gazette on June 12, 2009 3:28 PM

Hey - I'm a conservative this week!But later on Fox, New York Post columnist Ralph Peters attacked Smith and Herridge for claiming that the shooting “validated” the DHS report. Though some conservatives have concluded that the recent string... Read More

the point about whether World War Two veterans are what the DHS really meant when they said Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. ... "The wheels came off the wagon because the vetting process was not followed," Ms. Napolitano told the House... Read More

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I could not agree more. I was SO angry listening to Shep Smith that I emailed him 4 times!!

Thanks - maybe that was your email he read on the air. He seemed surprised anyone would take issue with him on this.

Mary Ware, maybe you are one of the nuts Smith mentioned who sends increasingly angry, unhinged e-mails to him.

Of course the DHS report got it right! Seriously, I've been living in my basement fighting rats for cheese for months now - I know!!!!!

Throw the book at this old guy. Outrageous.

Baker and Shep are wrong wrong wrong. After spending many hours painstakingly rephrasing and rewording intelligence assessments, and what struck me about the leaked DHS report was it's sloppiness and imprecision.

By making broad, unsubstantiated claims about a group under official government title, you end up stigmatizing them, and not making people any safer in the process. Even if those claims are carefully couched in terms of mere "possibilities", and not based on evidence, you could be encouraging discrimination that would result in the loss of civil or human rights for veterans. As a result, all you've accomplished is to polarize and fracture the social fabric, thereby worsening, not increasing, security for everybody.

Returning vets might feel "disgruntled" and disenfranchised"? Says who? Where's the study that tells us a large percentage of returning vets are disgruntled and disenfranchised? Where's the specific evidence justifying a heightened alert for such people?

The leaked report was carelessly worded, and even illogical at some points. Something intended for wide distribution, does have to be watered down, but NOT at the expense of precision. Say what it is you're talking about, rather than saying, "Watch out for those vets who might be Nazi recruits".

I'm sure DHS will be playing up this shooter's WWII vet status to discredit criticism of the report. The criticism of the DHS report was legitimate, however, and still stands.

One could make that argument about anybody. Let's see, the newspaper business is going t*ts up. Journalists MUST be disaffected, no? They're losing their jobs. They are held in low esteem by the public. Their "journalism" often exhibits strains of hate and resentment toward people different from them. Should we be keeping an eye on those disgruntled journalists? Are they a threat? Well, it's "possible", isn't it? Seems likely, huh?

It would be just as ludicrous.

And who are these "white supremacists"? Where does all this come from? And on a day when Jeremiah Wright, Obama's old pastor says "Them Jews won't let me talk to him", those poor guys are getting it from both ends. Yeesh. Terrible.

Just want to add that such general assertions about the potential for criminal conduct by blacks, women or gays would never get past the front office. Shep displayed some very ignorant, stereotyped views that are disturbing to see in a news anchor who's job it is to relay the news, not mold the news to support his own biases.

There were a host of problems with the leaked DHS report, and the criticisms it received were, and still are, valid. Since DHS has retracted it, though, we can assume corrections have been made. Hopefully, nothing like this will come up again.

Nobody, including DHS, claimed that veterans were terrorists. What is claimed is that veterans are particularly vulnerable to being recruited by extremist groups. In this case, the shooter's veteran status probably has nothing to do with his actions, but he fits the right-wing extremist profile, as outlined in the DHS report, in other ways.

"Just want to add that such general assertions about the potential for criminal conduct by blacks, women or gays would never get past the front office."

Perhaps because those people aren't found in the highest levels of right-wing extremist groups, targetted for recruitment and revered for their background. As you could learn from anyone who investigates these extremist groups.

I mean seriously, how badly does the obvious burn your sensitive little eyes ?

You've founded a militia in the woods and want to overthrow something in an armed takeover. Every other right-wing group you know about actively recruits ex-servicement and holds up their vets as prized members for their combat skills. You're looking for recruits and it just so happens that thousands of vets are returning to the US from the ccmbat zone. Where you going for new recruits for your armed takeover pal ? Walmart ?

Either claim that the DHS report called all servicemen racist nutbags or get the f**k over it already. Otherwise you're doing nothing but whinging about the fact that you didn't like law enforcement pointing out this inconvenient truth.

BTW, I notice you didn't try saying that broad generalizations about Muslims would be verboten, based on an insignificant minority being involved in violent extremist plots in the US.

You remember the Muslims right ? Those guys you've not had a problem doing this gross generalization to for so many years. Those guys currently getting their butts kicked by about 100:1 by the white right-wing extremists when it comes to how many domestic terrorism plots they've carried out or had disrupted since 9/11.

Rather than the fantasy in your skull keeping you angry, why don't you take a look at what that DHS report says. This is what you are complaining about:
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(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
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Put you best lying face on an try telling us you have any objection to that assessment whatsoever, let alone try claiming it unfairly denigrates all military vets like you are claiming it does.

This it not news. As they say, the peak of the right-wing extremist groups in the 90s saw this recruiting and they are warning of the same thing again.

If you wanted to object, you could on the grounds that there was no such "small percentage of digruntled ex-servicemen" joining such right-wing extremist groups then or now. But you're not going to do that, because then we could refer to the FBI saying the same thing for 2 decades and look at some actual cases.

No, you'll just stick to whinging about this because you don't like it while claiming it says something it doesn't. Because otherwise, you're gonna need to lie in order to disagree with what the DHS report actually says.

Come to think of it, why don't you just lie to yourself about these news items while you're at it. Tell each other that he wasn't a right-wing extremist, he was a Mexican Mafia member. That fixes it and it's no less reality-based than what you're doing already.

Greyhawk: "Ten million Americans served in World War Two, of the millions who survived are you going to put them on a terrorist watch list?"

No we're going to put them in forced labor FEMA concentration camps. Start digging yourself a spider hole in the back yard buddy.

Oh wait... no that wasn't it. Yeah, no, we were just going to mention briefly in a report about domestic threats that right-wing groups will actively target returning vets like they are doing and that small numbers will join, like they have been doing. You know, stating these facts.

You need to switch off Glenn Beck and take a reality check.

Told ya so = Janet Napolitano got it right. latter day conservatives == my what a bunch ! Keep going Rush Hannity Etc , what a job you are doing !

Maybe it's a self-fulfilling prophecy but Janet Napolitano and her DHS report are looking pretty prophetic right now.

What about the recent video released showing Jews in Israel being extremely racist and full of hate? Apparently the Jews always get a free pass. Does anybody ever hold the Jews accountable for their atrocious behavior?

Is anything James Von Brunn wrote false?

That's what I thought.

People hate the truth.

And why are the Jews the only people on the planet allowed to be Nationalists and have their own Nation FOR JEWS ONLY?

Everybody else is forced to embrace the scam/lie of multiculturalism and diversity. Why not the Jewish Supremacists?

Everybody has to arrive at their own answer to THE JEWISH QUESTION.

Frankly, I'm sick of the hypocrisy and double standards of the Jews and the rules all of the non-Jews, or "goyim" cattle as they call us, are forced to follow.

F THIS SHIT.

"Is anything James Von Brunn wrote false?"

I don't know - unlike you I never read anything he wrote.

Here's an idea "Leroy" - ask your internet service provider, see if they know. Here's their contact info:


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I am Barack Obama.

Kilo, work on reading comprehension. You have a problem with what Ralph Peters said - but it won't help you to pretend I said it. His point - as I take it - is actually pretty close to what I think you're trying to say in your own rather sneering, marginally literate way: the idea is ridiculous.

Now read and listen more carefully - the issue isn't about right, left, or otherwise - the issue is about a couple of Fox News morons (sorry if you're a big fan) claiming this 89 year old dirt bag (I'm not at all sorry if you're his fan-boy) proves that Iraq and Afghan vets (this is where I come in) are a threat - big or small.

Hate to burst your bubble, Kilo, but Fox News ain't the source of all wisdom you think it to be.

I did my own piece on the same thing before I read yours, although mine was about the vindication of the report only.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=11506

Greyhawk, that's a cool trick! Do me, do me!

I want to commit genocide against Finns!

C'mon, Guy, you gotta love daaaa Finns!

In this case, the shooter's veteran status probably has nothing to do with his actions, but he fits the right-wing extremist profile, as outlined in the DHS report, in other ways.

The Narrative is correct, even if the facts were wrong.

"Kilo, work on reading comprehension ... Now read and listen more carefully "

This appears to be an accurate assessment.
I just reviewed this and your other writings on the topic and I do owe you an apology for getting your position completely backwards.

Thanks Kilo. Apologies to you if I replied harshly.

Added in Kilo's defense: I updated this post several times (each paragraph that begins with "more" etc) , some may have been after Kilo's initial comment, and they might have clarified points on which I was unclear originally.

However, there have been and will be no additional updates.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m6d10-Holocaust-Museum-shooter-von-Brunn-a-911-truther-who-hated-neocons-Bush-McCain

Mr. Von Brunn reminds me of George Galloway when he would bark-like-a-mad-Hitler about the 'evil neo-cons ruling the White House'.

'Extremists' are not left or right, they are both the same; for example, Rev Wright is exactly the same 'extremist' as Mr. Von Brunn and both are just like George Galloway. The one commonality between them is their hatred of Jewish people which is why there is an unholy alliance between Progressives and Islam.


Shep Smith is just an idiot. But if we are being cautious about certain groups it really begs the question of why veterans (and this guy is near 90, that is some DELAYED stress....) are subject to heightened scrutiny but a jailhouse jihadist can do a fatal driveby of a military installation and inspire NO comment by the Barry In Chief. I guess it's true, we aren't at war.

So Leroy, do you work hard to maintain your ignorance or do you come by it naturally? There are roughly 1.5 million Arabs who are Israeli citizens, plus an assortment of Bedouins, Circassians and Samaritans, etc., who also hold Israeli citizenship. Give your hate of the Jews a rest. Hell, Jesus and his apostles were born Jewish, do you hate them?

So is Shepard Smith still beating up women who take "his" parking space?

If you can't stand up and denounce a man, whether a real vet or not, for murdering another human being in cold blood, how are you not disrespecting all the peaceful, hard-working vets out there? How do you not understand that the full DHS report was focused on extremists of all kinds, not just vets? You are pulling a Hannity and taking something completely out of context in order to misrepresent it in your favor. Here is a dose of some truth, if you read it with an open mind you just might enlighten yourself a little.
"The declassified DHS report warned, "Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely." The report further warned, "The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment." This description reflected recent extremist violence, including the July 2008 shooting spree in a Knoxville church "because of its liberal teachings," a thwarted attempt to assassinate Obama in October by two neo-Nazi skinheads, and "a racially motivated rape and murder spree in Brockton, MA" by a 22-year-old white supremacist the "day after Barack Obama was inaugurated." Since the report was issued last April, the trail of death has continued. "We have seen not only the murder of an abortion physician by a member of the radical right, but the murders of five law enforcement officers -- three police officers in Pittsburgh, two sheriff's deputies in Florida by radical right-wing extremists," SPLC's Mark Potok told CNN. "It's really been quite an extraordinary period." The Pittsburgh shooter "feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns," and the Florida killer was "severely disturbed that Barack Obama had been elected President." In an incident earlier this month, a "lone wolf" American Muslim extremist "shot and killed Army Pvt. William Long" outside a Little Rock, AR, mall in anger over the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."
-From the liberal think tank American Progress (Who, unlike you, cite actual facts in the correct context)

Chadr
Sorry, but given that you didn't state it, who exactly are you're addressing?

But since you brought it up, the DHS report is as accurate as it is useless. Are you really amazed at the prescience of government officials who are paid to come up with "angry murderous thugs might commit murder soon"?

How do you propose we use the DHS report to prevent future murders?

The report on Right-Wing Nut Jobs (your spiritual brethren) that has ya'll's panties in a bunch was ordered up by your Dear Leader George W. Bush and was effectively complete before Sec. Napolitano was confirmed. It mirrors a report on Left-Wing Nut Jobs released last year.

The furor people have tried to generate over its supposed defamation of veterans is ludicrous. Returning to civilian life can be traumatic in the best circumstances. It doesn't take a study to realize that returning vets discharged from a term of duty consisting of multiple tours in war zones might have skills that would be valuable to extremist groups and might be open to their influence.

The extremists know it. Some years ago, an investigation was conducted that found such groups were direcing their active members to enlist in the military for the purpose of gaining skills and experience in weapons and tactics. If they will undertake such a long-term effort, why wouldn't they seek the low hanging fruit of disenchanted, disgruntled recent discharged veterans?

That there might be some unstable Afghan/Iraq vets amenable to such an approach, look at recent reports of military suicides, or the soldier who murdered comrades prior to committing suicide recently in Iraq. Or read some of the posts on this site.

Speaking of which, to anyone who may have stumbled on this site through a link, as I did, I wish to assure you: I am a veteran and this site is not representative of the majority of us.

Sheesh, anon - here's a name you could have used that even fits your "I'm a veteran" claim: Captain Obvious. ("Oblivious" would work too.)

But you're probably one of the 30 illiterate, "I believe what I'm told" fuckwits who visited from Think Progress, I'm guessing.

Damn shame. So, what are you a "veteran" of buddy? Heidelberg '93? Or are you "Rick Duncan"? (Or whatever new name you've come up with) If so I heard they let you out of jail...

You're not a veteran of anything more than a few days of basic prior to wash-out. I can spot your sort a mile away. Want to know one of the dead giveaways? Your claim to represent the majority of veterans - something neither I or any other self-respecting veteran would do.

"It doesn't take a study to realize that returning vets discharged from a term of duty consisting of multiple tours in war zones might have skills that would be valuable to extremist groups and might be open to their influence."

Exactly. Nonetheless, the DHS spent time and money on one. Could have been better spent on hyperbarics, don't you think? No, you don't - I know.

And do some recon of "posts" here before you decide whether you're for 'em or agin' 'em. At a bare minimum read the one you're commenting on before commenting again.

Chadr

We stand up and denounce extremist James Von Brunn for being a:

Christian hater
Jew Hater
FOX News’ O'Reilly hater
Weekly Standard hater
Bush hater
Neo-con hater
9-11 was an inside job nut
Socialist
artist
Stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”
Stated that the Apostle Paul destroyed Rome by undermining its pagan virility.
Hated corporations

I'm not sure what's wrong with noting the relatively large amount of veterans with combat experience. It's fairly well-known that extremist groups (militias, especially in the 90's; skinheads) have expressed a desire to recruit veterans. There have also been some concerns about gang members serving in the military. Remember Andres Raya? Being in the military is an honorable and commendable thing. There is nothing wrong with being a veteran. Veterans are not the threat. The militarization of extremists is.

Special Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns died in the line of duty and my heart goes out to his family. However, please don't do a "Tillman" on him.

The facts are that, noticing an old man approaching the door, Special Officer Johns acted in a very appropriate and professional manner - he opened the door so that the old man could enter.

The old man, von Braumm, shot him in the head as he entered the building. Johns probabily did not even register the fact that he was about to be shot. Being a security guard at a building enterance means, if you are well trained, that you know that you are subject to being shot, without warning, by any well-trained attacker.

One of my "old sargeants" used to tell those of us stationed at such "fixed" posts to make our deaths "real noisy" to allert the other guards as, in most attacks, we would be dead before we could comprehend the fact that we were being attacked.

Longwalker, since you brought it up, I don't think those who die in the line of duty while performing dangerous tasks shouldn't be recognized for sacrifice simply because they knew they were doing dangerous work.

As for precise cause of death or what immediate action they took that may have led directly to their demise, I see taking on the task in the first place as the point worthy of praise - exactly the point you are making in your third paragraph.

On a related tangent, I don't see death as requirement for recognition. As example, while many military members do heroic things and survive, all recently awarded Medals of Honor have been posthumous.

One could argue that had Pat Tillman survived he would not have received a Silver Star, this despite the fact that the citation makes clear he received it for actions that - as it turned out - led to his death. (That it came from "friendly fire" does not diminish the justification and absolutely doesn't mandate denying the award - a point Lt Gen McChrystal has made previously.) But it's frequently more clear (this does not mean "obvious") that one's actions are courageous when that ultimate proof is available.

But many Silver Stars and a handful of Service Crosses have gone to living recipients recently. Not to imply the Silver Star lacks significance, but it's really about in the middle of the spectrum of awards for valor. The problem I see is not that we excessively honor the dead, it's that we've forgotten that death is not the unavoidable end result of courage.

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The donor conference in Kabul was the largest international meeting in Afghanistan since the 1970s. Security was tight in the capital. Coalition forces battled insurgents near Kabul the night before, but the conference proceeded peacefully.
...Analysts say while there is still work to be done, the Kabul conference was President Karzai's chance to show the international community his government is ready.
Recently, many coalition partners have voiced their desire to begin transferring security control to the Afghan forces. U.S. officials say they hope to start withdrawing forces next July.
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Kabul Conference -- [A Major's Perspective - in Afghanistan]
A lot of news stories out there right now about the Kabul Conference that took place today, and rightfully so. (I wonder how much we really need to hear about Lohan going to jail -- I really dont care -- but I kinda expected that).
But I digress. Lot of great news stories out there, but there is something you didn't see in the news today, and it was a good thing. Why is this important? Because it was all the Afghans. Afghan led, and Afghan executed. For all the Taliban hot wind that was talked, the Afghan National Security Forces did a superb job in securing the conference.

A City Tour for V.I.P.'s Attending the Kabul Conference -- [At War]
In the opening scenes of Shakespeare's play "Measure for Measure," the Duke of Vienna takes off his fine clothes and disguises himself as an ordinary friar so that he can wander the streets and learn what the common people really think about the governance of his city.
The New York TimesIf Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Gen. David H. Petraeus could do the same, wandering the bazaars and back streets of Kabul instead of attending the carefully guarded Kabul conference ...
...They would see the capital of the place where their policies will succeed or fail, and they would hear talk not of capacity building and clusters, but of the daily lives of the poor, of the millions of Afghans whose lives have not been touched by the dollars pouring in from donors and who do not have connections to the wealthy and powerful who can get them jobs. They would see a world of criminal gangs and they would hear that for many in Kabul, there is no belief in the future.

US hunts wanted Taliban and al Qaeda commander in Kunar -- [LWJ - Bill Roggio]
Qari Zia Rahman has allegiance to both the Taliban and al Qaeda. ISAF said he maintained a safe haven in the district of Marawara until a recent operation to secure the region.

Highway to Hell -- [Kandahar Diary - in Afghanistan]
It's been a busy day on Highway 1.
One convoy, en-route to Bastion, was engaged at about 0930hrs with small arms fire from about a section-size group of insurgents using abandoned houses and gardens 300m south of the MSR as cover. Our guards dismounted from their vehicles and returned fire. Fortunately, this time, no injuries or damages were reported and the convoy quickly pushed on.
Another of my convoys was not so lucky today. ...

Riding with Ghosts -- [Free Range International - in Afghanistan]
Editors Note: This article is too good not to share in its entirety. The reporter, Mitch Potter, was kind enough to give me permission to do so. Mitch contacted me through the blog and Panjwaii Tim told me he was a great guy with lots of experience and knowledge who he was happy to host. In Mitch's honor I hereby officially change the name for Team Canada to Ghost Team knowing full well the name change was supposed to be agreed on at the end of the summer piss up. What did I say at the end of my last post? Armed, outside the wire, experienced, contractors - this is what I was talking about.
Riding With Ghosts...

Afghanistan's New Minister of Interior: A Potential Game Changer - [SWJ - Dr. Mark Moyar, Orbis Operations]
During the Obama administration's strategic review last year, the U.S. government and media paid surprisingly close attention to the selection of Afghanistan's cabinet members, and pressed Karzai to retain the ministers whom Westerners deemed most capable. The forced resignations of Interior Minister Mohammad Hanif Atmar and National Directorate of Security (NDS) chief Amrullah Saleh last month garnered less attention, despite the fact that they were two of the government's most important figures. The decline in Western enthusiasm about Atmar no doubt contributed heavily to the tepidness of the response. Soon thereafter,...

Riz Khan - Afghanistan: Cash and corruption - [AlJazeera]

UK troops could start leaving Afghanistan next year, says Cameron -- [The Guardian] Both leaders are under strong domestic pressure to bring troops home as the ... was far less welcome than that of his predecessor, Stanley McChrystal

Suspected Afghan army trainer opens fire on fellow instructors -- [Washington Post]
A suspected Afghan army trainer on a shooting range in northern Afghanistan opened fire on his fellow instructors Tuesday, killing two American civilian trainers and one other Afghan soldier before being killed himself, NATO officials said. On a day when world diplomats gathered in Kabul for an international conference intended to further a transition to Afghan security responsibility, the violence showed the risks and setbacks that can come with a rapid expansion of Afghan military forces. The shooting, at a weapons training base near the city of Mazar-e Sharif, comes just one week after another rogue Afghan soldier killed three British soldiers at a base in Helmand province. "It's a great tragedy," said British Col. Stuart Cowen, a spokesman for the NATO Training Mission-Afghanistan, the command responsible for building up the Afghan security forces. Few details were immediately available about the circumstances surrounding the shooting, and NATO officials said they had started a joint investigation into the incident with the Afghan Ministry of Defense. The name of the contractor that provided the U.S. trainers was also not disclosed.

Picture Of The Day - 20 JUL 2010 "Master Healer" -- [FaST Surgeon - in Afghanistan]
...We were fortunate at FOB Shank to have LTC H (AKA Podalirius). Over the last 10 years, the military has identified an injury pattern known as mild traumatic brain injury (mTBI). Most of us would refer to this as a "concussion". mTBI is an injury caused mainly by explosive force (e.g. from Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs)). In Iraq, IEDs were consistently mortally devastating to our troops. Recently, our soldiers of Operation Enduring Freedom have benefited by the addition of MRAPs. I believe that there is significantly less trauma (Although there are still many instances of significant trauma and death) inflicted on our soldiers because of the protection offered by these vehicles. However, being in the epicenter of an explosion still leaves many with mTBI.
Most soldiers with mTBI rapidly improve with the innovative therapies applied by CPT J. However, ...


IRAQ

Series of deadly attacks in Iraq related to US pullout plan: analysts‎ -- [Xinhua]
Recent series of attacks by insurgents have left hundreds of people dead and wounded in Iraq

Iraq Briefing - Gen Ray Odierno


Suicide Attacks Kill Dozens In Iraq -- [AP /NPR]
Two suicide bombers targeting members of a government-backed, anti-al-Qaida militia struck within hours of each other early Sunday, killing at least 48 people and wounding dozens more, Iraqi officials said.
The bombings were the deadliest in a series of attacks across Iraq Sunday that were aimed at the Sons of Iraq, a Sunni group also known as Sahwa that works with government forces to fight al-Qaida in Iraq. The attacks highlighted the stiff challenges the country faces as the U.S. scales back its forces in Iraq, leaving their Iraqi counterparts in charge of security.

Al-Qaeda Women Used As Couriers -- [MEMRI Blog]
Al-Qaeda in Iraq is using a new strategy for transmitting messages and orders to its various cells, by using women known as mujahidat [committed to jihad] or mu'minat [believers].

US envoy: Diplomatic presence in Iraq will shrink -- [AP/WFAA]
The State Department is telling Congress that it intends to phase out a network of embassy branch offices in Iraq as soon as three years after the U.S. military leaves in 2011.
The Obama administration's choice to be the next ambassador to Baghdad -- James F. Jeffrey -- said an existing network of 16 military-civilian posts will be transformed by 2011 into a combination of three embassy branch offices and two consulates.
The three embassy branch offices will be phased out in three to five years, he said, while the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and two consulates will remain indefinitely.

Iraq's Conflict, Reflected in a Family Tragedy -- [NY Times]
When the Americans arrived, Hamid Ahmad, a former air force warrant officer imprisoned under Saddam Hussein, imagined a new life for his family, freed from the burdens of tyranny. In seven hard years, nothing went as planned.
He spoke good English and believed in America. He got a job, his family says, with the United States military. Late last month, he wound up dead at the hands of his 32-year-old son, who had turned into an insurgent who sought money and purpose in fighting the Americans.
Despite difficult relations, an Iraqi oil official said Monday that Kuwait has given initial approval to open its border for crossing by international oil firms working in Iraq oil fields.

Iraq Border to Open to International Oil Companies -- [Epoch Times]
The new border crossing will aid the inflow of equipment for oil companies working on the Safwan and Rumaila oil fields, said the director of the Oil Ministry's licensing office, Abdul-Mahdy al-Meedi, according Reuters.
Iraq wishes to upgrade its oil production capacity from 2 million to 12 million barrels a day in the next six years, according to a report by Iraq newspaper Al- Sabah. But insufficient dock space and corruption at Kuwait's Umm Qasr port, would impede the proposed expansion.




U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD

China Protests US-South Korea Joint Military Drills‎ -- [RTT News]
In a statement issued ahead of imminent joint major military drills by the United States and South Korea in the Sea of Japan, China expressed stiff

U.S. Stealth Jets, Carrier Tell Norks: Back The Hell Up -- [Danger Room]
bout 8,000 U.S. and South Korean sailors and airmen are preparing for a big joint military exercise this weekend to tell a wilding-out North Korea to rethink its recent aggression. Get ready for Invincible Spirit.
According to Admiral Robert Willard, the commander of American forces in the Pacific, the carrier U.S.S. George Washington and a bunch of destroyers from the Navy's Seventh Fleet will head to the Sea of Japan, along with surveillance aircraft and "destroyers, frigates, and some patrol craft" from the South Korean Navy, including the South Korean transport ship Dodko. Over 100 aircraft from the Air Force's Seventh Air Wing and the South Korean Air Force are going to fly above. And since a torpedo from a North Korean submarine sank the South Korean warship Cheonan in March, there'll be anti-submarine exercises as well. It's going to unfold over several days.

Will a North Korean Attack Win the Yellow Sea for China? -- [One Free Korea]
Is the Yellow Sea a Chinese lake? Under ordinary circumstances, I'd understand China's complaints about a U.S. naval exercise in an inland sea near its shores. It's not as if I'd want Chinese ships in the Gulf of Mexico, either, but these are not ordinary circumstances. This time, North Korea has sunk a South Korean warship, and China has both shielded North Korea from any consequences for that attack and continued to provide necessary financial support to the regime that carried it out. Argue among yourselves whether this makes China an accessory after the fact, but it certainly destroys the myth of China as a mature, responsible power promoting peace and stability. That's why the U.S. Navy is now forced to deter without any help from China.

U.S. announces new sanctions against North Korea -- [Washington Post]
Searching for new ways to punish North Korea after blaming it for sinking a South Korean warship in March, the Obama administration announced Wednesday that it will strengthen existing sanctions against the North and impose new restrictions on its weapons trade and trafficking in counterfeit currency and luxury goods.


WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISM

Al-Qaeda Second-in-Command Ayman Al-Zawahiri: The Only Hope for Palestine is to Depose the 'Arab Zionists' -- [MEMRI Blog]
In a new 1-hour 3-minute audio recording, Al-Qaeda second-in-command Ayman Al-Zawahiri reaffirms Al-Qaeda's basic strategy regarding Palestine and promised imminent victory in Afghanistan, and addresses words of praise and encouragement to the jihadist groups in North Africa, Somalia, the Arabian Peninsula, Iraq, the Caucasus, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

Fighting the Ideological Battle: The Missing Link in U.S. Strategy to Counter Violent Extremism -- [Counterterrorism Blog - Matthew Levitt]
As nonaffiliate terrorist actors begin to take center stage and al-Qaeda's core strength diminishes, it has become clear that America is at war with a larger enemy: the extremist ideology that fuels and supports Islamist violence. Unfortunately, the United States is not well equipped to fight on this ideological battleground, and U.S. efforts to confront the ideology worldwide have not kept pace with more successful military targeting of high-level al-Qaeda leaders.
In a new Washington Institute Strategic Report my co-authors and I argue that rather than avoid any mention of the religious motivation behind the terrorism of al-Qaeda and other like-minded organizations, the Obama administration should sharpen the distinction between the religion of Islam and the political ideology of radical Islamism to successfully defeat Islamist terrorism at its most fundamental source.




SUPPORTING THE TROOPS

SSG Patrick Zeigler - Someone You Should Know -- [BlackFive]
Want to meet a real life superhero? A man whose strength and power defies what many believed was humanly possible? A man who defines the phrase "American soldier"?
Meet Staff Sgt. Patrick Zeigler.
For the past 8 ½ months, Zeigler has looked death in the face and refused to blink. He's battled back from eight brain surgeries and diagnoses that labeled him everything from "comatose" to "permanently disabled."
Zeigler was one of 32 who was injured on November 5, 2009 when accused gunman Army Major Nidal Hasan opened fire inside the Soldier Readiness Center at Fort Hood.


Soldiers' Angels Welcomes New Trustee -- [Soldiers' Angels]
Soldiers' Angels announces the appointment of military veteran, new media expert and lobbyist Mark Seavey to the Board of Trustees. Drawing on thirteen years' experience advocating for veterans, Seavey will work closely with COL (ret) Henry Cook on legislative liaison efforts.
A strong advocate for veterans, Seavey began his career with The American Legion in 1997 as an Appeals Representative and later served with the National Legislative Commission as an Assistant Director and Grassroots Coordinator. Recently promoted to New Media Manager, Seavey serves as steward of The Burn Pit and also runs a highly-respected personal milblog which specializes in debunking fraudulent military service claims.


MILITARY


BREAKING: Stolen Valor Act ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL (UPDATE 1) -- [BlackFive - Mr Wolf]
Sit back, take a deep breath, and get your BP meds ready. Stupidity has found another outlet in the judicial system. And be prepared to memorize this face.
One of our favorite impostors Richard Strandloff/Duncan has had the charges of Stolen Valor dropped due to a ruling from the District Court in Denver today. Judge Robert E. Blackburn issued a ruling today, dropping/dismissing the charges on the basis that says ''the Stolen Valor Act is unconstitutional.'' And by 'unconstitutional' he means it violates the First Amendment. He writes:




WELCOME HOME

Dozens of Kentucky Army National Guard soldiers returning home -- [WKYT]
Friends and family will gather at the Boone National Guard Center in Frankfort Wednesday to welcome home 86 Kentucky Army National Guard soldiers

Local Seabees Return -- [WKRG-TV]
Family members, relatives, and friends will welcome home more than 260 Seabees from ... to send an additional 30000 troops to Afghanistan late last year

Soldiers from the 278th return home -- [TriCities.com]
...every deployment is stressful because one parent ends up doing the job of two. In addition to taking care of their children by herself, Tara Spears said she also must do her husband's chores, such as mowing the lawn.
That's why she's thankful the Bootleggers have friends and family members who work together like an extended family during a deployment the same way its members become brothers while their in combat.
Technology also has come a long way in the five years since her husband's first deployment, and that's helped out a lot too. During the Bootleggers' 2004-05 deployment, Tara Spears said she was lucky if she could talk to her husband once a week. This year she's been able to use her Blackberry and Skype, an Internet-based video telephone service, to talk to her husband every single day that he's been gone.


VETERANS

URGENT!! OIF/OEF VETERANS DISCHARGED FOR PTSD -- [Some Soldier's Mom]
FOR YOUR INFORMATION
OIF/OEF Veterans: TIME IS RUNNING OUT. If you were discharged for PTSD and received LESS THAN A 50% disability rating from your service branch, you MAY be able to receive some additional benefits

New treatment for PTSD? Dropping some Ecstasy. -- [Stars & Stripes]
It's not the most likely prescription for veterans already suffering from paranoia and emotional imbalance, but a group of researchers with the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies in California are suggesting that 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (better known as Ecstasy) could prove valuable in helping combat vets in dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder.
The study, which tracked only 20 patients, found veterans using Ecstasy were more receptive to counseling sessions than those on a placebo.


BLOGGING/MILBLOGS/SOCIAL MEDIA

Oh, poor Blogetry! -- [Jawa Report]
Oh, the poor 73,000 blogs they hosted!!
Why, the FBI won't take my blog until they pry my cold dead fingers from the keyboard!!1! /sarcasm.
1. A site hosted by Blogetry was distributing Inspire magazine from al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.
2. The FBI asked for nothing more than information about the particular site, one of 73,000 hosted by Blogetry.
3. BurstNET, acting on their own initiative, and in accordance with their own Terms of Service, pulled the plug on Blogetry.
The FBI did not shut down 73,000 blogs, period. But why let the truth get in the way of a good story...




THE MEDIA/CULTURE

WH Press Briefing- Top Secret means Top Secret -- [BlackFive - Uncle Jimbo]
I posted this over at Big Peace but since it is an ongoing series here I wanted a copy on our servers. I think some of the hype over whether this compromises classified information may have been overblown. That said, I don't think it really added anything to the debate and put too much of our secret business out in public.

JournoList Members Discussed Whether the Government Should Shut Down Fox News -- [The Volokh Conspiracy]
It appears from the last few days' stories that JournoList was even worse than I'd always suspected. The Daily Caller reports that UCLA law professor Jonathan Zasloff first raised the possibility of a government shutdown of Fox News and then defended pulling their White House press pass

Breitbart On Sherrod's NAACP Speech: 'I Did Not Edit This Thing' -- [TPMMuckraker]
The crux of the Shirley Sherrod controversy is what she said outside of the two-minute video clip posted by Big Government -- whether she was, as she claims, telling a story about how she overcame racial prejudice while helping poor farmers in Georgia, or whether the clip is a good encapsulation of her views. So we asked Andrew Breitbart, the founder of Big Government, why he hasn't posted the full video.
"I don't have it," Breitbart told TPMmuckraker in an interview. Breitbart said his source sent him just the edited clips at first, but is in the process of sending the full video.
Breitbart said he'll post the full video, if he can get permission from the video production company who filmed it for a local NAACP chapter. He also maintained that he didn't edit the clip and that it was sent to him already edited.

VoteVets still whining about Fox -- [This Ain't Hell]
This morning I awoke to to some more VoteVets whining. They have new million-dollar ad that they're trying to cram down Fox's throat about this Clean Energy bill in Congress.


STRATEGY & TACTICS

War is Boring: Fourth Time the Charm for NATO's Afghan Militia Plan? -- [WPR]
The impetus behind the scheme was simple enough. "We clearly do not have enough police forces to provide security in enough of the populated areas," top Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell admitted.
Nevertheless, reaction to the plan was swift and alarmed. Afghan President Hamid Karzai reportedly objected to it -- and for good reason. On no fewer than three occasions in the last three years, NATO has experimented with militias and local security forces. All these previous efforts failed, sometimes spectacularly.
Morrell tried to downplay concerns. "These would be local community policing units," Morell said last week. "They would not be militias."
"It is clearly a sensitive issue for President Karzai and the Afghan government and the Afghan people, given their history with militias and warlords," Morrell told reporters. "And we are certainly understanding and sensitive to that."
"But that is not what Gen. Petraeus is proposing here,"


SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY

The real Star Wars: Laser used to shoot down a moving aircraft for first time -- [Daily Mail]
Star Wars-style laser beams have been used for the first time to shoot down aircraft in flight, it was revealed last night.
The anti-aircraft laser shot down four unmanned drones at a US Navy test range off the coast of California.
Mounted on a warship, the space age weapon was fired over two miles to hit one drone travelling above the Pacific Ocean at more than 300mph.
The invisible beam can only be seen when it strikes its target.


CLIMATE AND SECURITY

The Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force -- [White House]
President Obama signed an Executive Order establishing a National Policy for the Stewardship of the Ocean, Coasts, and Great Lakes on July 19, 2010. That Executive Order adopts the Final Recommendations of the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force and directs Federal agencies to take the
appropriate steps to implement them.

Meet the National Ocean Council -- [White House Blog]
Find out who represents your new National Ocean Council.

In Midst of Gulf Disaster, New National Ocean Policy Gives Hope for Our Seas -- [Huffington Post - Sigourney Weaver Academy Award nominated actress]
I have always loved the oceans. My father was a Navy man and one requirement he had for us growing up was that we had to live near a body of saltwater. I was raised listening to foghorns by night and being chased by horseshoe crabs by day.
...This is the most significant action any U.S. President in history has ever taken for our seas. It will help make our oceans stronger and healthier, and help them fight off the myriad of threats they face today. It will help clean up the pollution that contaminates our beachwater, protect endangered species, keep the seafood we love on our plates, and make the oceans more resilient to the impacts of climate change.


POLITICS

Kagan and the Military: What Really Happened -- [WSJ - Pete Hegseth]
Her intellectually dishonest opposition to our armed forces during a time of war shows bad judgment. She doesn't belong on the Supreme Court.

Hegseth on Kagan -- [This Ain't Hell]
Out buddy, Pete Hegseth, the executive director of Vets For Freedom, takes on Elena Kagan, the Supreme Court nominee, in the pages of the Wall Street Journal this morning on her contention that she's friendly towards the military


MILITARY HISTORY

American Civil War: It Begins at Bull Run -- [about.com / Military History]
July 21, 1861 - Union forces are beaten at the First Battle of Bull Run. Under pressure to defeat Confederate forces, Brig. Gen. Irvin McDowell advanced into Virginia in July 1861. Encountering Confederate troops under Brig. Gen. P.G.T. Beauregard behind Bull Run, he attempted a sweeping march around the enemy's left flank. This largely succeeded on July 21 and Union forces achieved early success before pausing their advance. This allowed Beauregard to rush recently arrived reinforcements, under Brig. Gen. Joseph Johnston, to the scene. As the battle progressed, the Confederates gained the upper hand and ultimately routed McDowell's army sending it reeling back towards Washington.


HUMOR/SATIRE


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