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June 10, 2009

"Told Ya So" - 89 year-old shooter "confirms DHS report"

By Greyhawk

UPDATES HERE

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Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge just announced that the shooting at the Holocaust Museum - allegedly by an 89-year old WWII veteran - confirms a recent DHS report regarding the threat posed by extremist veterans.

Shepard Smith adds "They [DHS] saw the signs, now it has begun". Smith keeps hammering on that angle...

Early reports also indicate the shooter claimed to hold a journalism degree.



AS of now the New York Times reports:

Law enforcement officials said they have long been familiar with Mr. Von Brunn, who has claimed variously to be a member of Mensa, the high-I.Q. fraternity; to have been a P.T. boat captain in World War II and to have been victimized by a court system run by Jews and black people.

Update - earlier video from Herridge and Smith warning America about the veteran threat:


And Herridge just rejoined Smith yet again to note "we can't emphasize enough" the importance of this report. But I don't think you're going to see the smug, triumphant veteran-bashing videos released any time soon.
Fox:
A man named James Von Brunn operates a white supremacist Web site, Holy Western Empire, that carries several anti-Semitic statements. A biography of Brunn posted on the site says he is a World War II veteran who served time in federal prison for trying to make a "citizens arrest" of Federal Reserve Board members in 1981.
If that's all on which Smith and Herridge are basing their claims of vindication regarding the veteran threat, they're pathetic.
More: Here's a screen-cap from the Nazi's web page (click for larger version):
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What biographical bit does he put first? "James W. von Brunn holds a BachSci Journalism degree from a mid-Western university".

Guess what, Shep - I'm no journalist, but until I confirmed that claim I'd assume he's lying.

And still more: Ralph Peters - appearing on Fox with Neil Cavuto and surprised by what he'd heard earlier on Smith's show, eloquently defends his fellow veterans: "Neil, I gotta say something. On Fox News of all places in the last hour I heard that this tragic incident at the Holocaust Museum somehow validates the disgraceful report from the Department of Homeland Security warning about a terror threat from our returning veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan. Neil, this guy served in World War Two. He's been out of the military 64 years. He wasn't career military, he was a career nut. Ten million Americans served in World War Two, of the millions who survived are you going to put them on a terrorist watch list? It had nothing to do with the Department of Homeland Security report." I'd add that no one has verified that WWII-veteran status yet, but his point is correct. Peters concludes: "You know a question nobody's asked yet? The brave security guard who died saving lives... was he a military veteran?"

Perhaps he was, perhaps he wasn't. No reporter thought to ask.

But you can bet he wasn't a journalist.


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And now - Video - here are a couple clips from the discussion. First - here's the actual veterans quote from the DHS report:

DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists--including lone wolves or small terrorist cells--to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

  • (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans--including Timothy McVeigh--joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups.
  • (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that "large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces."
  • (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups
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As you watch, bear in mind that Smith and Herridge know they're talking about a guy who claims to be an 89-year old WWII veteran. Unless he crashed a PT boat through the front doors of the Holocaust Museum, any military training from back in '42 was not a factor. But Smith wants to make sure you understand very specifically - this is a former military guy, it's not political, social, or anything else:


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And here's Ralph Peters, responding:


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The security guard who gave his life in the line of duty has been identified as Stephen Tyrone Johns.

There are no words to express our grief and shock over today's events at the Museum, which took the life of Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns. Officer Johns, who died heroically in the line of duty, served on the Museum's security staff for six years. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Officer Johns's family. We have made the decision to close the Museum Thursday, June 11, in honor of Officer Johns and our flags will be flown at half mast in his memory.

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Previous posts on the DHS reports here and here and here (really - you might want to read these before deciding you know what I think of the reports.).

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Late update: "FNC Has More Viewers Than CNN/MSNBC Combined During Museum Shooting". Swell.

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Elsewhere:

More blame game. Here's a thought - let's blame the shooter.

Laughing Wolf at Blackfive would like to politely discuss this with Fox advertisers.

And from TSO: Vindication - a must-read. (I'll beg, even: please read it before writing something in the comments here that makes you look really stupid.)

And thanks, John.

And still more here (and thanks Glenn).

And lastly: DHS report confirmed? Well, "heck of a job, Brownie" - keep up the good work.

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The Holocaust Museum Shooting from Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys.. on June 10, 2009 4:58 PM

Interesting how the news works.Greyhawk reports over at Mudville Gazette: Fox News reporter Catherine Herridge just announced that the shooting at the Holocaust Museum - allegedly by an 89-year old WWII veteran - confirms a recent DHS report regarding ... Read More

Before we get into the story, we need to pay respect to Officer Stephen T. Johns, of Temple Hills, Mayland. He was 39 years old, a six year veteran of the museum and gave his life to stop a deranged machine of hate. God bless you and keep you Officer... Read More

Okay - my headline is intended to make a point: no one (other than fellow Nazis - and some of them will probably deny him) deserves to be associated with this sumbitch. In his 90 years on this earth (which he probably wanted to end guns blazing) this d... Read More

Bear watching? from Mudville Gazette on June 11, 2009 8:19 PM

"FNC Has More Viewers Than CNN/MSNBC Combined During Museum Shooting". From 1-5pmET, FNC averaged 1,322,000 Total Viewers and 326,000 in the demo, followed by CNN (824,000 and 126,000) and MSNBC (311,000 and 93,000).And all those Fox viewers learned to... Read More

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Work on "think" from Mudville Gazette on June 12, 2009 3:28 PM

Hey - I'm a conservative this week!But later on Fox, New York Post columnist Ralph Peters attacked Smith and Herridge for claiming that the shooting “validated” the DHS report. Though some conservatives have concluded that the recent string... Read More

the point about whether World War Two veterans are what the DHS really meant when they said Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. ... "The wheels came off the wagon because the vetting process was not followed," Ms. Napolitano told the House... Read More

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I could not agree more. I was SO angry listening to Shep Smith that I emailed him 4 times!!

Thanks - maybe that was your email he read on the air. He seemed surprised anyone would take issue with him on this.

Throw the book at this old guy. Outrageous.

Baker and Shep are wrong wrong wrong. After spending many hours painstakingly rephrasing and rewording intelligence assessments, and what struck me about the leaked DHS report was it's sloppiness and imprecision.

By making broad, unsubstantiated claims about a group under official government title, you end up stigmatizing them, and not making people any safer in the process. Even if those claims are carefully couched in terms of mere "possibilities", and not based on evidence, you could be encouraging discrimination that would result in the loss of civil or human rights for veterans. As a result, all you've accomplished is to polarize and fracture the social fabric, thereby worsening, not increasing, security for everybody.

Returning vets might feel "disgruntled" and disenfranchised"? Says who? Where's the study that tells us a large percentage of returning vets are disgruntled and disenfranchised? Where's the specific evidence justifying a heightened alert for such people?

The leaked report was carelessly worded, and even illogical at some points. Something intended for wide distribution, does have to be watered down, but NOT at the expense of precision. Say what it is you're talking about, rather than saying, "Watch out for those vets who might be Nazi recruits".

I'm sure DHS will be playing up this shooter's WWII vet status to discredit criticism of the report. The criticism of the DHS report was legitimate, however, and still stands.

One could make that argument about anybody. Let's see, the newspaper business is going t*ts up. Journalists MUST be disaffected, no? They're losing their jobs. They are held in low esteem by the public. Their "journalism" often exhibits strains of hate and resentment toward people different from them. Should we be keeping an eye on those disgruntled journalists? Are they a threat? Well, it's "possible", isn't it? Seems likely, huh?

It would be just as ludicrous.

And who are these "white supremacists"? Where does all this come from? And on a day when Jeremiah Wright, Obama's old pastor says "Them Jews won't let me talk to him", those poor guys are getting it from both ends. Yeesh. Terrible.

Just want to add that such general assertions about the potential for criminal conduct by blacks, women or gays would never get past the front office. Shep displayed some very ignorant, stereotyped views that are disturbing to see in a news anchor who's job it is to relay the news, not mold the news to support his own biases.

There were a host of problems with the leaked DHS report, and the criticisms it received were, and still are, valid. Since DHS has retracted it, though, we can assume corrections have been made. Hopefully, nothing like this will come up again.

Nobody, including DHS, claimed that veterans were terrorists. What is claimed is that veterans are particularly vulnerable to being recruited by extremist groups. In this case, the shooter's veteran status probably has nothing to do with his actions, but he fits the right-wing extremist profile, as outlined in the DHS report, in other ways.

"Just want to add that such general assertions about the potential for criminal conduct by blacks, women or gays would never get past the front office."

Perhaps because those people aren't found in the highest levels of right-wing extremist groups, targetted for recruitment and revered for their background. As you could learn from anyone who investigates these extremist groups.

I mean seriously, how badly does the obvious burn your sensitive little eyes ?

You've founded a militia in the woods and want to overthrow something in an armed takeover. Every other right-wing group you know about actively recruits ex-servicement and holds up their vets as prized members for their combat skills. You're looking for recruits and it just so happens that thousands of vets are returning to the US from the ccmbat zone. Where you going for new recruits for your armed takeover pal ? Walmart ?

Either claim that the DHS report called all servicemen racist nutbags or get the f**k over it already. Otherwise you're doing nothing but whinging about the fact that you didn't like law enforcement pointing out this inconvenient truth.

BTW, I notice you didn't try saying that broad generalizations about Muslims would be verboten, based on an insignificant minority being involved in violent extremist plots in the US.

You remember the Muslims right ? Those guys you've not had a problem doing this gross generalization to for so many years. Those guys currently getting their butts kicked by about 100:1 by the white right-wing extremists when it comes to how many domestic terrorism plots they've carried out or had disrupted since 9/11.

Rather than the fantasy in your skull keeping you angry, why don't you take a look at what that DHS report says. This is what you are complaining about:
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(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
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Put you best lying face on an try telling us you have any objection to that assessment whatsoever, let alone try claiming it unfairly denigrates all military vets like you are claiming it does.

This it not news. As they say, the peak of the right-wing extremist groups in the 90s saw this recruiting and they are warning of the same thing again.

If you wanted to object, you could on the grounds that there was no such "small percentage of digruntled ex-servicemen" joining such right-wing extremist groups then or now. But you're not going to do that, because then we could refer to the FBI saying the same thing for 2 decades and look at some actual cases.

No, you'll just stick to whinging about this because you don't like it while claiming it says something it doesn't. Because otherwise, you're gonna need to lie in order to disagree with what the DHS report actually says.

Come to think of it, why don't you just lie to yourself about these news items while you're at it. Tell each other that he wasn't a right-wing extremist, he was a Mexican Mafia member. That fixes it and it's no less reality-based than what you're doing already.

Greyhawk: "Ten million Americans served in World War Two, of the millions who survived are you going to put them on a terrorist watch list?"

No we're going to put them in forced labor FEMA concentration camps. Start digging yourself a spider hole in the back yard buddy.

Oh wait... no that wasn't it. Yeah, no, we were just going to mention briefly in a report about domestic threats that right-wing groups will actively target returning vets like they are doing and that small numbers will join, like they have been doing. You know, stating these facts.

You need to switch off Glenn Beck and take a reality check.

Told ya so = Janet Napolitano got it right. latter day conservatives == my what a bunch ! Keep going Rush Hannity Etc , what a job you are doing !

Maybe it's a self-fulfilling prophecy but Janet Napolitano and her DHS report are looking pretty prophetic right now.

What about the recent video released showing Jews in Israel being extremely racist and full of hate? Apparently the Jews always get a free pass. Does anybody ever hold the Jews accountable for their atrocious behavior?

Is anything James Von Brunn wrote false?

That's what I thought.

People hate the truth.

And why are the Jews the only people on the planet allowed to be Nationalists and have their own Nation FOR JEWS ONLY?

Everybody else is forced to embrace the scam/lie of multiculturalism and diversity. Why not the Jewish Supremacists?

Everybody has to arrive at their own answer to THE JEWISH QUESTION.

Frankly, I'm sick of the hypocrisy and double standards of the Jews and the rules all of the non-Jews, or "goyim" cattle as they call us, are forced to follow.

F THIS SHIT.

Kilo, work on reading comprehension. You have a problem with what Ralph Peters said - but it won't help you to pretend I said it. His point - as I take it - is actually pretty close to what I think you're trying to say in your own rather sneering, marginally literate way: the idea is ridiculous.

Now read and listen more carefully - the issue isn't about right, left, or otherwise - the issue is about a couple of Fox News morons (sorry if you're a big fan) claiming this 89 year old dirt bag (I'm not at all sorry if you're his fan-boy) proves that Iraq and Afghan vets (this is where I come in) are a threat - big or small.

Hate to burst your bubble, Kilo, but Fox News ain't the source of all wisdom you think it to be.

I did my own piece on the same thing before I read yours, although mine was about the vindication of the report only.
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=11506

"Is anything James Von Brunn wrote false?"

I don't know - unlike you I never read anything he wrote.

Here's an idea "Leroy" - ask your internet service provider, see if they know. Here's their contact info:


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Greyhawk, that's a cool trick! Do me, do me!

I want to commit genocide against Finns!

C'mon, Guy, you gotta love daaaa Finns!

In this case, the shooter's veteran status probably has nothing to do with his actions, but he fits the right-wing extremist profile, as outlined in the DHS report, in other ways.

The Narrative is correct, even if the facts were wrong.

"Kilo, work on reading comprehension ... Now read and listen more carefully "

This appears to be an accurate assessment.
I just reviewed this and your other writings on the topic and I do owe you an apology for getting your position completely backwards.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m6d10-Holocaust-Museum-shooter-von-Brunn-a-911-truther-who-hated-neocons-Bush-McCain

Mr. Von Brunn reminds me of George Galloway when he would bark-like-a-mad-Hitler about the 'evil neo-cons ruling the White House'.

'Extremists' are not left or right, they are both the same; for example, Rev Wright is exactly the same 'extremist' as Mr. Von Brunn and both are just like George Galloway. The one commonality between them is their hatred of Jewish people which is why there is an unholy alliance between Progressives and Islam.


Shep Smith is just an idiot. But if we are being cautious about certain groups it really begs the question of why veterans (and this guy is near 90, that is some DELAYED stress....) are subject to heightened scrutiny but a jailhouse jihadist can do a fatal driveby of a military installation and inspire NO comment by the Barry In Chief. I guess it's true, we aren't at war.

Thanks Kilo. Apologies to you if I replied harshly.

Added in Kilo's defense: I updated this post several times (each paragraph that begins with "more" etc) , some may have been after Kilo's initial comment, and they might have clarified points on which I was unclear originally.

However, there have been and will be no additional updates.

So Leroy, do you work hard to maintain your ignorance or do you come by it naturally? There are roughly 1.5 million Arabs who are Israeli citizens, plus an assortment of Bedouins, Circassians and Samaritans, etc., who also hold Israeli citizenship. Give your hate of the Jews a rest. Hell, Jesus and his apostles were born Jewish, do you hate them?

Mary Ware, maybe you are one of the nuts Smith mentioned who sends increasingly angry, unhinged e-mails to him.

Of course the DHS report got it right! Seriously, I've been living in my basement fighting rats for cheese for months now - I know!!!!!

So is Shepard Smith still beating up women who take "his" parking space?

I am Barack Obama.

If you can't stand up and denounce a man, whether a real vet or not, for murdering another human being in cold blood, how are you not disrespecting all the peaceful, hard-working vets out there? How do you not understand that the full DHS report was focused on extremists of all kinds, not just vets? You are pulling a Hannity and taking something completely out of context in order to misrepresent it in your favor. Here is a dose of some truth, if you read it with an open mind you just might enlighten yourself a little.
"The declassified DHS report warned, "Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely." The report further warned, "The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment." This description reflected recent extremist violence, including the July 2008 shooting spree in a Knoxville church "because of its liberal teachings," a thwarted attempt to assassinate Obama in October by two neo-Nazi skinheads, and "a racially motivated rape and murder spree in Brockton, MA" by a 22-year-old white supremacist the "day after Barack Obama was inaugurated." Since the report was issued last April, the trail of death has continued. "We have seen not only the murder of an abortion physician by a member of the radical right, but the murders of five law enforcement officers -- three police officers in Pittsburgh, two sheriff's deputies in Florida by radical right-wing extremists," SPLC's Mark Potok told CNN. "It's really been quite an extraordinary period." The Pittsburgh shooter "feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns," and the Florida killer was "severely disturbed that Barack Obama had been elected President." In an incident earlier this month, a "lone wolf" American Muslim extremist "shot and killed Army Pvt. William Long" outside a Little Rock, AR, mall in anger over the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."
-From the liberal think tank American Progress (Who, unlike you, cite actual facts in the correct context)

Chadr
Sorry, but given that you didn't state it, who exactly are you're addressing?

But since you brought it up, the DHS report is as accurate as it is useless. Are you really amazed at the prescience of government officials who are paid to come up with "angry murderous thugs might commit murder soon"?

How do you propose we use the DHS report to prevent future murders?

The report on Right-Wing Nut Jobs (your spiritual brethren) that has ya'll's panties in a bunch was ordered up by your Dear Leader George W. Bush and was effectively complete before Sec. Napolitano was confirmed. It mirrors a report on Left-Wing Nut Jobs released last year.

The furor people have tried to generate over its supposed defamation of veterans is ludicrous. Returning to civilian life can be traumatic in the best circumstances. It doesn't take a study to realize that returning vets discharged from a term of duty consisting of multiple tours in war zones might have skills that would be valuable to extremist groups and might be open to their influence.

The extremists know it. Some years ago, an investigation was conducted that found such groups were direcing their active members to enlist in the military for the purpose of gaining skills and experience in weapons and tactics. If they will undertake such a long-term effort, why wouldn't they seek the low hanging fruit of disenchanted, disgruntled recent discharged veterans?

That there might be some unstable Afghan/Iraq vets amenable to such an approach, look at recent reports of military suicides, or the soldier who murdered comrades prior to committing suicide recently in Iraq. Or read some of the posts on this site.

Speaking of which, to anyone who may have stumbled on this site through a link, as I did, I wish to assure you: I am a veteran and this site is not representative of the majority of us.

Chadr

We stand up and denounce extremist James Von Brunn for being a:

Christian hater
Jew Hater
FOX News’ O'Reilly hater
Weekly Standard hater
Bush hater
Neo-con hater
9-11 was an inside job nut
Socialist
artist
Stated that “SOCIALISM, represents the future of the West”
Stated that the Apostle Paul destroyed Rome by undermining its pagan virility.
Hated corporations

Sheesh, anon - here's a name you could have used that even fits your "I'm a veteran" claim: Captain Obvious. ("Oblivious" would work too.)

But you're probably one of the 30 illiterate, "I believe what I'm told" fuckwits who visited from Think Progress, I'm guessing.

Damn shame. So, what are you a "veteran" of buddy? Heidelberg '93? Or are you "Rick Duncan"? (Or whatever new name you've come up with) If so I heard they let you out of jail...

You're not a veteran of anything more than a few days of basic prior to wash-out. I can spot your sort a mile away. Want to know one of the dead giveaways? Your claim to represent the majority of veterans - something neither I or any other self-respecting veteran would do.

"It doesn't take a study to realize that returning vets discharged from a term of duty consisting of multiple tours in war zones might have skills that would be valuable to extremist groups and might be open to their influence."

Exactly. Nonetheless, the DHS spent time and money on one. Could have been better spent on hyperbarics, don't you think? No, you don't - I know.

And do some recon of "posts" here before you decide whether you're for 'em or agin' 'em. At a bare minimum read the one you're commenting on before commenting again.

I'm not sure what's wrong with noting the relatively large amount of veterans with combat experience. It's fairly well-known that extremist groups (militias, especially in the 90's; skinheads) have expressed a desire to recruit veterans. There have also been some concerns about gang members serving in the military. Remember Andres Raya? Being in the military is an honorable and commendable thing. There is nothing wrong with being a veteran. Veterans are not the threat. The militarization of extremists is.

Special Officer Stephen Tyrone Johns died in the line of duty and my heart goes out to his family. However, please don't do a "Tillman" on him.

The facts are that, noticing an old man approaching the door, Special Officer Johns acted in a very appropriate and professional manner - he opened the door so that the old man could enter.

The old man, von Braumm, shot him in the head as he entered the building. Johns probabily did not even register the fact that he was about to be shot. Being a security guard at a building enterance means, if you are well trained, that you know that you are subject to being shot, without warning, by any well-trained attacker.

One of my "old sargeants" used to tell those of us stationed at such "fixed" posts to make our deaths "real noisy" to allert the other guards as, in most attacks, we would be dead before we could comprehend the fact that we were being attacked.

Longwalker, since you brought it up, I don't think those who die in the line of duty while performing dangerous tasks shouldn't be recognized for sacrifice simply because they knew they were doing dangerous work.

As for precise cause of death or what immediate action they took that may have led directly to their demise, I see taking on the task in the first place as the point worthy of praise - exactly the point you are making in your third paragraph.

On a related tangent, I don't see death as requirement for recognition. As example, while many military members do heroic things and survive, all recently awarded Medals of Honor have been posthumous.

One could argue that had Pat Tillman survived he would not have received a Silver Star, this despite the fact that the citation makes clear he received it for actions that - as it turned out - led to his death. (That it came from "friendly fire" does not diminish the justification and absolutely doesn't mandate denying the award - a point Lt Gen McChrystal has made previously.) But it's frequently more clear (this does not mean "obvious") that one's actions are courageous when that ultimate proof is available.

But many Silver Stars and a handful of Service Crosses have gone to living recipients recently. Not to imply the Silver Star lacks significance, but it's really about in the middle of the spectrum of awards for valor. The problem I see is not that we excessively honor the dead, it's that we've forgotten that death is not the unavoidable end result of courage.

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I know I am a little late on posting to my blog, but I returned from a boondoggle out to Mazar-e-Sharif in the Northern provinces. I even have some pictures to post with this entry. First, let me recap last week. We did make a normal trip to NDS. It was actually a clear, cool morning which is a rarity here in Kabul. The pollution is so thick that it is very rare to see the distant mountains. So, here is a picture of the snow-capped mountains, west of Kabul. This picture was taken last Monday. I haven't seen the mountains since. Other than that, it was a normal week of mentoring. There are always little things to work on and improve in the OT. Friday was another violent day here in Kabul. The Taliban used a SVBIED outside Camp Phoenix a little before 0800. There were no American casualties, but there were injuries.

Clinton in Kabul for Karzai's inauguration -- [Foreign Policy - AfPak]
U.S. President Barack Obama reportedly told CNN today that he is "very close" to making a decision about whether to send more U.S. troops to Afghanistan and plans to make an announcement "in the next several weeks," after more than two months of deliberations (Reuters, Reuters). Obama is reportedly angry about the stream of leaks that has come out about his Afghanistan decision, telling CBS, "For people to be releasing info in the course of deliberations is not appropriate" and said yes when asked if that is a "firing offense" (CBS, Politico). Meanwhile

The war of leaks -- [Foreign Policy - AfPak]
The Obama Administration's social media prowess has been a novelty among latter day political media machines. It helped to crowd-source the campaign funding needed to put Barack Obama in the White House, and generated a populist gloss that was, at the time, convincingly fresh and transparent. What was equally admirable was its apparent internal discipline over when information made the transition from government secret to press release. Controlling the flow of data and keeping secrets secret is a challenge under any circumstance. Combine that with a predilection for Facebook and Twitter, and a hyperactive security officer might expect policy waters to muddy more quickly than they would under normal circumstances.
So when U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry's expressed his "discomfort" last week over a possible troop surge, via diplomatic cable to Washington, it's no wonder that the message ended up dominating headlines.

Ridding Afghanistan of Corruption Will Be No Easy Task -- [Los Angeles Times]
Afghans have a name for the huge, gaudy mansions that have sprung up in Kabul's wealthy Sherpur neighborhood since 2001. They call them "poppy palaces." The cost of building one of these homes, which are adorned with sweeping terraces and ornate columns, can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many are owned by government officials whose formal salaries are a few hundred dollars a month. To the capital's jaded residents, there are few more potent symbols of the corruption that permeates every level of Afghan society, from the traffic policemen who shake down motorists to top government officials and their relatives who are implicated in the opium trade.

Afghan Minister Accused of Taking Bribe -- [Washington Post]
The Afghan minister of mines accepted a roughly $30 million bribe to award the country's largest development project to a Chinese mining firm, according to a US official who is familiar with military intelligence reports. The allegation, if proved true, would mark one of the most brazen examples of corruption yet disclosed in a country where the problem has become so pervasive that it is now at the heart of Obama administration doubts over Afghan President Hamid Karzai's reliability as a partner.

Vision for Victory, Part I -- [Washington Times]
The news from Afghanistan all year has been dispiriting, and the last few weeks have been especially tough in terms of the violence. Yet most foreign and Afghan officials and officers who I encountered on a recent weeklong visit sponsored by the U. military are guardedly optimistic about our prospects. How can this be so?

U.S. Turns to Local Guns-for-Hire to Guard Afghan Outpost -- [Danger Room - Noah Shachtman]
The U.S. military is turning to guns-for-hire to guard one of its outposts in Afghanistan. But Blackwaters of the world, take note: simply hiring former G.I.s or American cops or even Nepalese Gurkhas won't do the trick this time. At least half of the 50-man force has to come "from within a 50 kilometer radius" of the base, according to a contract solicitation issued by the U.S. Air Force. Over the summer, the American military signaled its interest in hiring an army of contractors to help handle security at as many as 50 outposts in Afghanistan. It's one of several efforts efforts designed to free up uniformed troops for combat and counterinsurgency work. Now, U.S. forces appear to be taking the first step towards building that country-wide private security force, by soliciting bids for a team that watch over Forward Operating Base Lightening, in Paktya province.

NATO Chief Confident Afghanistan Will Have More Troops -- [Voice of America]
The NATO secretary-general says he is confident the United States and other NATO allies will send more troops to Afghanistan, where insurgent attacks have surged in recent months. He spoke at the NATO Parliamentary Assembly Meeting in Edinburgh, where Britain's foreign secretary outlined the strategy his nation would support.

Germany to extend Afghanistan mission another year -- [AP]
Germany will extend its mission in Afghanistan for another year, the government said Wednesday, despite the growing unpopularity of the war at home



Pakistani Successes May Sway US Troop Decision -- [New York Times]
A month after the Pakistani military began its push into the Taliban stronghold of South Waziristan, militants appear to have been dispersed, not eliminated, with most simply fleeing. That recurring pattern illustrated the problems facing the Obama administration as it enters its final days of a decision on its strategy for Afghanistan. Success in this region, in the remote mountains near the Afghan border, could have a direct bearing on how many more American troops are ultimately sent to Afghanistan, and how long they must stay. Pakistan has shown increased willingness to tackle the problem, launching sweeping operations in the north and west of the country this year, but

Where are Taliban and al Qaeda commanders, US media asks Pak -- [Daily News & Analysis]
Washington: A day after senior Pakistani army commanders claimed that their forces have captured all major towns and population centres of the extremist-ridden South Waziristan, Taliban and foreign militants appear to have disappeared and not been eliminated.

Pakistani Army Shows Off Captured Taliban Posts -- [Washington Post]
A toy car booby-trapped with explosives, chemistry textbooks and handwritten case files from a Taliban court were among the debris left behind by fleeing Islamist militants in this remote village in the conflicted tribal region of South Waziristan. The now-deserted village, which was retaken by Pakistani army forces two weeks ago and visited by Western journalists on Tuesday for the first time since, had been a stronghold of Taliban forces for nearly five years.


IRAQ

Iraqi Kurds Warn of Election Boycott in Dispute Over Seats - [Washington Post]
Kurdish officials threatened Tuesday to boycott the upcoming national election in the three provinces they control in northern Iraq unless more parliament seats are allocated to the region. The threat came two days after Iraq's Sunni vice president said he would veto the election law passed last week unless more seats are set aside for representatives of Iraqi refugees. The majority of Iraqis abroad are Sunni. Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi has until Wednesday to veto the law, which legislators approved after weeks of wrangling, primarily over how the vote would be held in the disputed northern city of Kirkuk. The two ultimatums underscored the deep divisions among Iraqi politicians and raised fresh concerns about Iraq's ability to hold a credible election by Jan. 18.

Iraq's national elections in jeopardy as Sunni VP issues veto
-- [McClatchy News]
BAGHDAD -- Iraq's pivotal national elections were thrown back into turmoil and potential delay Wednesday after Vice President Tariq al Hashemi vetoed part of an election law and sent it back to parliament.

US has time to reconsider Iraq drawdown plan-Odierno -- [Reuters]
The US military does not have to decide until April or May whether to push back the end of its combat operations in Iraq due to...

A few words from medics for the 41st Brigade -- [The Oregonian]
I spent an hour or two last month with Oregon National Guard medics who are based at Al Asad Airbase, discussing a little of what they've observed since coming to Iraq this summer. The discussion, as you might think, covered issues in two categories: The physical and the mental. The Physical - CPT Scott Johnson of Newport, who is the highest-ranking soldier in the medical support unit at Al Asad, said that medics are seeing a significant share of orthopedic issues that stem from the heavy loads that soldiers carry. Even though the war has wound down considerably over the last few years, soldiers on convoys and at checkpoints still wear a lot of body armor and carry a lot of ammunition and weaponry, as much as 65 pounds or even more. Over time, even young soldiers experience increased stress on their joints from walking, running and jumping with that much gear.

Goodbye to Iraq, and thanks -- [The Oregonian]
The soldiers of Oregon's 41st Brigade are about halfway through their Iraq deployment, but I'm finally home after a gruelling passage through Kuwait and a misadventure or two. I said goodbye to my last acquaintance in the Oregon National Guard on Monday afternoon in Salt Lake City. SSG Tom McNeil of Central Point was peeling off to fly to Medford, close to his home in Central Point, while I continued on to Portland. Have a terrific Thanksgiving at home, Tom. Thanks to all the folks along the way, especially the soldiers of Oregon's 41st Brigade Combat Team, for the many kindnesses extended to me during my sojourn among them. This toast to you, and I'm starting with you two, since you challenged me to do this, Scott and Mike


U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD

US, China in Strained Diplomatic Embrace -- [Wall Street Journal]
President Barack Obama was set to leave China on Wednesday after an awkward summit with some achievements but a long list of unfinished business - a result that suggests challenges ahead for the US as it struggles to come to terms with Asia's increasingly assertive superpower. The president secured a far-ranging framework for cooperation Tuesday with Beijing. But that deal was announced as frictions between the two nations appeared to increase over human rights and economic policy. President Obama and Chinese leader Hu Jintao issued their ambitious statement on cooperation in a clumsy fashion - at a media "availability" where they took no questions, didn't address each other and exhibited body language that seemed to say they had been frustrated by the entire exercise.

Obama: 'We've restored America's standing' -- [CNN]
A little more than a year after his election, President Obama said his administration has laid the groundwork for success on global and domestic matters. -- "I think that we've restored America's standing in the world

Somali Pirates : Maersk Alabama Attacked, Fights Back -- [Eagle Speak]
On the early morning of 18 November 2009, 350 nautical miles east from the Somali coast, pirates attacked MV Maersk Alabama, a US flagged, Danish owned, 155 meter long, Container ship.

Iranian COS Warns Russia: Your Security Is Tied To Ours -- [Memri Blog]
Iranian Army chief of staff Hassan Firouzabadi has warned Russia that delay in the supply of S-300 missile systems could harm Russia because its security is tied to that of Iran.




WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISM

Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Believed to Be Self-Radicalized -- [Wall Street Journal]
Some lawmakers briefed Tuesday on the Fort Hood shooting said the suspect, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was most likely a self-radicalized extremist. The briefing for select members of Congress came as Republicans with oversight of national-security issues called on Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to open a full congressional inquiry into alleged government miscues in the case of Maj. Hasan. He is charged with murdering 13 people Nov. 5 on the sprawling US Army base where he served as a psychiatrist.

Guantánamo Won't Close by January, Obama Says -- [NY Times]
President Obama acknowledged for the first time on Wednesday that his administration would miss a self-imposed deadline to close the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, by mid-January, admitting the difficulties of following through on one of his first pledges as president.


SUPPORTING THE TROOPS...OR NOT

No Man Left Behind -- [Knottie's Niche]
We've all heard the military quote "No Man left behind" But it wasn't until last weekend as I sat listening to a veteran Marine talking to an Army Sgt about how the Army helicopter pilot who saved him and many others in Vietnam by flying in a hot zone repeatedly to save men that it hit home. The words took on a whole new meaning to me. When Micheal was killed the Army did not leave us behind. It started with a visit to tell us the news and they did not leave until there was no more they could do for us in that moment. Then there was the email to let us know no one else had been hurt from one of the medics. The Army did not leave us behind when they assigned us a causality assistance officer who walked us through each step, even offering to go to the store for us at any hour of the day if we needed anything at all. Then the emails, calls and instant message conversations from the men who served with Micheal began.

LTC Tim Karcher Update -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany]
Wonderful update on LTC Tim Karcher, Commander of the 1st Cavalry Division's 2nd Battalion, 5th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, wounded June 28 in Sadr City.
4 weeks later, after fighting for his life in Iraq, here in Germany, and at Walter Reed, the loss of both legs was the least of his problems:

Support SA while Christmas shopping this year! -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany]
Through Soldiers' Angels, patriotic Americans can do their Holiday shopping or planning and support the troops at the same time!
The easiest way to do this is shop online at all your favorite stores. If you stop by GoodShop and Shop to Earn before you start, you can visit all your favorite online stores, purchase anything you want at the usual great prices, and a portion of what you spend will be donated to Soldiers' Angels--at no extra cost to you! On GoodShop, be sure you select Soldiers' Angels as the charity you are "GoodShopping for."

Trees for Troops: Helping Military Families -- [AdAge.com]
Military families. Transportation. Tree growers. Logistics. These seemingly incongruous words provide a case study in cause marketing.

FOX 5 Special: I-Team VA Loans -- [FOX News]


A FOX 5 I-Team investigation uncovered allegations of a nationwide scheme by banks and mortgage companies to defraud U.S. military veterans. The scheme, spelled out in court documents, claims banks are overcharging veterans on home refinancing loans.
The question raised in a racketeering and class action law suit is how many of those loans involved banks defrauding U.S. military veterans.



MILITARY

Muslim discrimination in the U.S. military. Not. -- [Castra Praetoria]
I'm done listening to any more bellyaching about how Muslims have it bad in the American military. It's a lie.
At this very moment there are American Muslims serving in our armed forces with valor. Muslim interpreters work along side us daily who aren't even American citizens and they have proven themselves as well. All these pansies wailing and moaning about discrimination against them because they are Muslims are not doing anyone any favors. Take it from a guy who has served along side Muslim Marines and Sailors in combat; worked with Jordanian and Iraqi interpreters in country; trained with Iraqi-Americans who have contributed to the effort by working as role players and training our troops in culture and language classes.

Time to revisit firearms policies on military posts -- [Atlanta Journal Constitution]
Just as legitimate questions were raised following the mass killings on the Virginia Tech campus in 2007, both military personnel and civilian citizens

Army's Record Suicide Rate 'Horrible,' General Says -- [Washington Post]
Army Vice Chief of Staff Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli on Tuesday called the Army's record suicide rate this year "horrible" and said the problem of soldiers taking their own lives is the toughest he has faced in his 37 years in service. As of Nov. 16, 140 soldiers on active duty and 71 soldiers not on active duty were suspected to have committed suicide. "We are almost certainly going to end the year higher than last year,"




WELCOME HOME

Veterans' descendants welcome troops home to Fort Campbell -- [Clarksville Leaf Chronicle]
Their day concluded with the Welcome Home ceremony for 80 soldiers who returned from a year in Afghanistan. "We are descendants of our country's first

'Greywolf' Among First CAV Troops to Return Home -- [DVIDS]
Once the buses arrived at Cooper Field, chants of "move that bus" were heard from Families waiting to welcome home their Soldiers. Tommy Tatum, from Kempner


THE MEDIA

Where are Taliban and al Qaeda commanders, US media asks Pak -- [Daily News & Analysis]
Washington: A day after senior Pakistani army commanders claimed that their forces have captured all major towns and population centres of the extremist-ridden South Waziristan, Taliban and foreign militants appear to have disappeared and not been eliminated.

Army officials said that they have killed as many as 550 Taliban militants a month after the military began its campaign into the lawless territory, yet they acknowledge that hundreds, perhaps thousands more have melted away.
As the offensive into the area, considered to be a sanctuary of al Qaeda and Taliban militants gained momentum, Boston Globe said, "Vast numbers of Taliban and foreign terrorists had disappeared into the vast desert scrub and craggy hills surrounding their strongholds of Sararogha and Ladha".
"Where are they? That's what bothers me," New York Times quoted a senior American intelligence officer as saying.




POLITICS

Republicans Criticize Obama's Call to Delay Hill Inquiries on Fort Hood -- [Washington Post]
The Obama administration's request that congressional committees slow their investigations of the Fort Hood shootings sparked denunciations Tuesday from Republicans on Capitol Hill, who pushed for an immediate inquiry of any warning signs before the massacre. House and Senate Republicans, emerging from the most detailed briefings given to Congress since the Nov. 5 attack killed 13 at the central Texas Army post, said delaying investigations would put off legislative efforts to give military officials the tools to prevent similar tragedies in the future. They said such an effort would not interfere with the criminal investigation of shooting suspect Nidal M. Hasan, an Army major who was scheduled to deploy to Afghanistan.


Obama Approval Dips Below 50% For First Time
-- [Quinnipiac University]
Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Support For U.S. Troops In Afghanistan Drops Below 50% -- President Barack Obama's job approval rating is 48 - 42 percent, the first time he has slipped below the 50 percent threshold nationally ...


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