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April 20, 2009

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On Point with Cpt Hill

By Greyhawk

"If President Obama is serious about righting the wrongs of the Bush years and winning the war against terrorists, here is a good place to start."

That's a quote from a recent op/ed written by a USAF Colonel and General and an Army General. The specific wrong they'd like to see made right is prosecutorial overzealousness. That might be the first time the Bush administration has been accused of such, but as an example they cite the case of Captain Roger Hill - and it's a case well worth examining.

"Catch 22" is usually a reference made with some degree of humor (specifically dark humor) but Captain Hill was caught up in something of a modern-day Catch 22 in Afghanistan, and nothing about it provokes as much as a chuckle. Short version: he had captured enemy, but without evidence to hold them was required under NATO rules to release them within 96 hours. However, he had evidence - but the evidence was classified. He couldn't use the evidence, so he had to let them go (and they knew it). Eventually he did - unharmed - but he wanted information from them first. So he fired a weapon somewhere out of sight of a detainee who was being questioned. Said detainee was then asked if he wanted to die like his friend. That action ended Captain Hill's military career. Another soldier, who later heard rumors that prisoners had been abused, promptly reported that up the chain of command - and the Army responded.

Again - that's the short version. Details below.

Here's an earlier interview with Tim Sumner.

P.J. Tobia's on-scene account of the hearing appeared in the Washington Post. "I fear that this kind of story will repeat itself in other parts of Afghanistan again and again," Tobias concludes, "if only because U.S. forces know that their enemy's mission is clearer than their own."

And from last night's NiteCap on Freedom Radio interview, (the other voices you'll hear are program host Pat's and mine) here's Captain Hill's story - as told by Captain Hill:

One element of this story that stands out to me: two military professionals confronted with decisions of "the right thing to do". Such a situation isn't unusual, although the degree is extreme in this example, weighing right and wrong is universal among military and civilians alike. An example: one could argue that speeding is illegal, whether you are rushing a critically injured loved one to a hospital or not. We may sympathize with the speeder in that example, as we would with a witness who upon seeing a vehicle flying down the road potentially endangering others promptly phoned the police to make a report.

We would be outraged to discover that the driver had first called an ambulance, but had been told "no".

Captain Hill informs us that 1,200 - 1,500 soldiers will replace the 89 members of his unit in Wardak - a part of the "Afghanistan surge". If they're forced into a position to make the decisions he did that won't be enough. No number will.

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Captain Hill's site - More Than Brothers - is here.


Posted by Greyhawk / April 20, 2009 1:23 PM | Permalink

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As an Afghan veteran who relied on my interpreter, the biggest nightmare was learning that your interpreter was Taliban... or not learning and finding out the hard way. What's worse is finding out that your terp is a spy and then having to release him because your chain won't support taking more permanent custody of him and his cohorts.

These men lived that nightmare, followed by a worse nightmare; being railroaded by your own Army. This whole scenario pisses me off from beginning to end. Thanks for keeping it in the public eye. These men should never be forgotten for their efforts and the sacrifice forced upon them by their own for doing their best to keep their Soldiers secure.

God bless you, GH. Hearing this again makes me sick, and really question our staying in Afghanistan. My prayer list sure is growing. If I had family over there, I think I'd have to knock myself out for the entire deployment.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004