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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! April 20, 2009 On Point with Cpt HillBy Greyhawk"If President Obama is serious about righting the wrongs of the Bush years and winning the war against terrorists, here is a good place to start." That's a quote from a recent op/ed written by a USAF Colonel and General and an Army General. The specific wrong they'd like to see made right is prosecutorial overzealousness. That might be the first time the Bush administration has been accused of such, but as an example they cite the case of Captain Roger Hill - and it's a case well worth examining. "Catch 22" is usually a reference made with some degree of humor (specifically dark humor) but Captain Hill was caught up in something of a modern-day Catch 22 in Afghanistan, and nothing about it provokes as much as a chuckle. Short version: he had captured enemy, but without evidence to hold them was required under NATO rules to release them within 96 hours. However, he had evidence - but the evidence was classified. He couldn't use the evidence, so he had to let them go (and they knew it). Eventually he did - unharmed - but he wanted information from them first. So he fired a weapon somewhere out of sight of a detainee who was being questioned. Said detainee was then asked if he wanted to die like his friend. That action ended Captain Hill's military career. Another soldier, who later heard rumors that prisoners had been abused, promptly reported that up the chain of command - and the Army responded. Again - that's the short version. Details below. Here's an earlier interview with Tim Sumner. P.J. Tobia's on-scene account of the hearing appeared in the Washington Post. "I fear that this kind of story will repeat itself in other parts of Afghanistan again and again," Tobias concludes, "if only because U.S. forces know that their enemy's mission is clearer than their own." And from last night's NiteCap on Freedom Radio interview, (the other voices you'll hear are program host Pat's and mine) here's Captain Hill's story - as told by Captain Hill: One element of this story that stands out to me: two military professionals confronted with decisions of "the right thing to do". Such a situation isn't unusual, although the degree is extreme in this example, weighing right and wrong is universal among military and civilians alike. An example: one could argue that speeding is illegal, whether you are rushing a critically injured loved one to a hospital or not. We may sympathize with the speeder in that example, as we would with a witness who upon seeing a vehicle flying down the road potentially endangering others promptly phoned the police to make a report. We would be outraged to discover that the driver had first called an ambulance, but had been told "no". Captain Hill informs us that 1,200 - 1,500 soldiers will replace the 89 members of his unit in Wardak - a part of the "Afghanistan surge". If they're forced into a position to make the decisions he did that won't be enough. No number will. Captain Hill's site - More Than Brothers - is here. Posted by Greyhawk / April 20, 2009 1:23 PM | Permalink 2 Comments |
July 19, 2010Dawn Patrol 07/19/2010 [Greyhawk]
Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our ongoing roundup of information on war and other topics - from the MilBlogs and other sources around the world.
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AFGHANISTANProspects for stability in Musa Qala: challenges and possible solutions -- [Bill Ardolino /Long War Journal - in Afghanistan] Exploding Culverts -- [Kandahar Diary - in Afghanistan] Arbaki -- [Free Range International - in Afghanistan] Weather -- [A Major's Perspective - in Afghanistan] Fête Nationale -- [Field Notes: One Soldier's Perspective - in Afghanistan] Goodbye "FaST" Food (and good riddance) -- [FaST Surgeon - in Afghanistan] IRAQOn The Iran, Iraq Border -- [J.D. Johannes - in Iraq] WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISMSenators Look For Smoking Gun In BP-Lockerbie Link -- [AP] No Link Between BP And Lockerbie Release: UK Envoy -- [NPR news blog] UK's Cameron: Releasing Lockerbie Bomber Was Wrong -- [AP] U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLDAs Cameron and Obama Meet, BP Will Be Top Issue -- [NY Times] Afghanistan tops agenda for British PM's visit -- [Washington Times] WELCOME HOMEHomecoming -- [Rajiv Srinivasan - home from Afghanistan] STRATEGY & TACTICSISAF, SCR Address Military ROE and Tactical Directives -- [ISAF] SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGYRaytheon's pain gun finally gets deployed in Afghanistan (update: recalled) -- [Engadget] Pain Ray Recalled From Afghanistan -- [Noah Shachtman/Danger Room] The Active Denial System: the weapon that's a hot topic -- [The Telegraph (UK)] World's Fastest Helicopter Boosts Battle Against Insurgents -- [ISAF]
POLITICSIs it time for a real GI Jane? -- [CNN] HUMOR/SATIRE(Need more? Dawn Patrols Archives are here.) Iraq, Afghanistan, War, Terrorism, Military, Politics, Media, MilBlogs, dawn patrol Mudville |
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As an Afghan veteran who relied on my interpreter, the biggest nightmare was learning that your interpreter was Taliban... or not learning and finding out the hard way. What's worse is finding out that your terp is a spy and then having to release him because your chain won't support taking more permanent custody of him and his cohorts.
These men lived that nightmare, followed by a worse nightmare; being railroaded by your own Army. This whole scenario pisses me off from beginning to end. Thanks for keeping it in the public eye. These men should never be forgotten for their efforts and the sacrifice forced upon them by their own for doing their best to keep their Soldiers secure.
God bless you, GH. Hearing this again makes me sick, and really question our staying in Afghanistan. My prayer list sure is growing. If I had family over there, I think I'd have to knock myself out for the entire deployment.