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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! April 12, 2009 Pirate RescueBy GreyhawkThe latest: Pentagon briefing from Navy Vice Admiral Bill Gortney, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, 4 p.m. EDT Sunday 12 April 2009: Having seen this - more updates below. Original story: American sea Captain Richard Phillips was safely rescued Sunday from four Somali pirates, who had been holding him for days in a lifeboat off the coast of Africa, a U.S. intelligence official said.Thanks to Marvin in comments for the heads-up. Heh: "Captain jumps overboard, SEALs shoot pirates, official says". "Heh" because if the shooters were SEALs, there were probably four shots fired, and the guy who only wounded his target will never hear the end of it. Unless there were only three shots fired. That's respectable. Update - Cap'n Phillips of Underhill looks good: ![]() Maersk-Alabama Capt. Richard Phillips, right, stands alongside Cmdr. Frank Castellano, commanding officer of USS Bainbridge (DDG 96) after being rescued by U.S Naval Forces off the coast of Somalia. Philips was held hostage for four days by pirates. (Official U.S. Navy photo) And here's the brief press release from CENTCOM MANAMA, Bahrain - At approximately 7:19 p.m (12:19 p.m. EDT) U.S. naval forces rescued Capt. Richard Phillips, the master of Motor Vessel Maersk-Alabama.Update 2: One thing that's clear from having seen the briefing - this has been one of the worst examples of reporting a major story I've seen in a long time. From the beginning rumors have been reported as fact - one of the reasons the first report done here on the topic was titled "Initial Reports are always Wrong". That point was lost on those covering this subsequently. Apparently the fourth pirate wasn't wounded in the shootout (I wasn't joking when I said I was surprised a SEAL had failed on a kill shot) - and had apparently "jumped ship", abandoning his three companions and "joining" the US Navy. That might not be accurate either, but what seems certain is that he was in Navy custody when the shooting started. That begs the question, is this the same pirate who was 'captured' by the crew of the Maersk? Which in turn leads to a question regarding his voluntary status as pirate in the first place. Thus far no one has asked any question along these lines whatsoever, even though other reports I've seen indicate this pirate is 16 years old. The first thought I had on his disposition: give him a tour of the Boxer, have him meet the Marines and see their toys, ask him where his home is and put him ashore. Tell him to pass along to his elders that next time anything like this happens nearby those Marines will be downtown within a couple of hours. All the talk among the talking heads on TV after the briefing: Hooray, we're going to bring this pirate to America, try him in court in New York where he faces up to a life sentence. Again, we're far from the full story here. But there might be much more to this pirate's story than we now know. And Glenn Reynolds is right: the underlying problem remains unsolved. For my part, I wonder if they'll consider arming crews now? Four pirates can overwhelm a ship crewed by 20+, grab a hostage, and keep the US Navy and two thousand Marines tied up for days? How many such victories can we expect in the future? Not to discount the very real heroics involved here, and I love this story as much as anyone - but how about we don't hit the snooze button now? More - Fox News now reporting breaking news: "three simultaneous kill shots to the head!!!". Amazed, they are. By the way - SEALs aren't the only human beings capable of such shootin' - just sayin'. Final thought (for now): Bad timing, and all that - how many times do you think we'll see this event referenced in the upcoming defense budget debates as justification for this or that project whose importance is obvious only now? And who will win the prize for stretching that point the farthest? Previously: Looking a bit too hard for the Union label
Posted by Greyhawk / April 12, 2009 2:19 PM | Permalink 5 TrackBacksWelcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world. If you're a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link to any of these stories, add a ... Read More That phrase sounds familiar... I've heard it somewhere before. Maybe it'll come to me later. For now, onward. ***** It's not about Obama. By "it's" I mean this post, and the story behind it. But the story is that there are those who want to make the st... Read More Returning to the original story:McChrystal will issue orders within days saying troops may attack insurgents hiding in Afghan houses if U.S. or NATO forces are in imminent danger, said U.S. military spokesman Rear Adm. Greg Smith.For additional clarifi... Read More First, thanks to Professor Whoopie for keeping things going while I try to free up a little time to spew forth my unhinged right wing lunacy. If you haven’t already, check out his post regarding Lazy American Shooters. Charlie dropped me an emai... Read More But this time the game didn't go into overtime. The Associated Press: "Somali pirates attacked the container ship Maersk Alabama today for the second time in seven months."Four pirates in a skiff attacked the ship again today at about 6.30am local tim... Read More 17 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Oh Man, I can't even describe how good I feel. Captain Phillips is a remarkable man! I feel so proud to be an American! God bless them all.
I watched most of the Admiral's briefing, having come home too late to watch all of. I got the distinct impression some of the douche bag reporters were pissed that 3 of the pirates were killed.
One little twit(thankfully I don't remember her name) asked, after the Admiral had explained, why it took the Bainbidridge so long to get there.
Now, I'm an old Air Force guy, but even I know that traveling 300 miles at a just over 20 knots would take, you know, a little longer than running down to your local Starbucks. I guess that's why I don't like reporters.
As I understand it, a group of liberals is planning on staging a series of 12 "LIVE RAID" concerts to benefit Somali pirates, beginning July 13, 2009, and ending July 13, 2010 -- the 25th anniversary of the first LIVE AID concert to benefit Ethiopian famine relief efforts.
Three head shots -- at sea --
from a ship which is pitching and rolling
at a lifeboat which is pitching and rolling
fine use of my tax dollars.
Greyhawk,
Always happy to brighten your day.
Happy Easter.
Marvin
Um.
The U.S. journalism industry is having the life squeezed out of it by the Internet. It's down to the bare bones, and is only going to get worse. So don't be surprised to encounter more and more of some of the "worst reporting" you've ever seen.
We're killing off the press and celebrating its death as we go. I don't think we have much right to complain as the product then goes to hell. This is exactly what media analysts have been warning about: the demise of professional journalism has consequences for those of us who like being informed about the world.
But, um... whoo-hoo... how about that Twitter...
Can we just trade this clown and the 3 dead other clowns for some hostages they have? Why bother bringing a punk to NY for a trial.
The Idiot in Chief would be smart to follow Jefferson's lead. There's very little down side. The oil tanker Muslims wouldn't mind. We should be amazed at that marksmanship but somehow we're not. Add this to the Tea Party explosion and we may be in for a very good week (for a change).
Actually, if there had been 4 pirates, the SEALs would have fired eight shots. SOP is two to the head. Good for BO for approving this instead of publicly dithering.
And our CIC again answered "Present."
Don't feel bad about our MSM dying. We are not killing them. They are comitting suicide.
jay
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The first question from the red headed turd from Al Reuters is indicative of why "journalists" should only be allowed into war zones without helmets nor flak jackets.
Later another pirate sympathizer with a note pad asks, "I mean you're talking with one of the pirates, how did this just escalate, how did you let this happen?"
Someone should simply air–drop these media scum into somalia with dozens of C-notes crazy glued to their necks.
Arming the crews is still not good enough--a nice step, but it won't stop piracy, only make it more expensive.
To stop piracy, we must go ashore, kill the pirates we can find, and destroy their ships and dockyards. Pirates are not invincible and piracy is not a particularly inexpensive activity. Patrolling the coast and arming the crews are no substitute for striking the pirates' lairs.
I've seen it said, and you have some quotes above that bear it out, that the captain jumped overboard and that precipitated the action.
However, the articles linked don't have any such quotes.
Was that part of the incorrect, initial reports or did it not fit the slant that Minitru wanted to put on the action? Either way, the linked stories no longer have those quotes.
"the articles linked don't have any such quotes" - because that's been the media MO for this entire event. Report rumor and speculation as fact, then when it's proven wrong rewrite the now-embarrassing original story without acknowledging the earlier error.
The number of things that have vanished from initial media reports without explanation in this multi-day event are astounding, starting with the earliest reports that the crew had fought off the pirates and retaken control of their ship.
If you're interested, Google the original quotes, you might find versions that haven't been corrected.
I hope you don't think I was saying you lied with your quoting, I know they change their stories all the time, that's why I wrote "Either way, the linked stories no longer have those quotes".
I was just wondering if it had been changed because their original reporting was wrong, or because it doesn't fit their slant.
I was hoping you might have heard from some sources who aren't "journalists".
Nope - didn't think you were accusing me, understood your meaning.
Personally I have no contact with anyone on scene. Some things seem wrong to me at first glance though, that's partly due to life experience.