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March 11, 2009

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Soul Searching

By Greyhawk

"My youngest son, who is 19, recently told me that he was thinking about leaving college and joining the military." Says Courtland Milloy in an essay in the Washington Post.

My research has turned up a number that would give any parent pause: 72,900. No, it's not a war casualty count. It's the amount on a huge check posted in the window of an Army recruiting office I visited in Oxon Hill.

If my son enlisted, the Army tells me, he could receive as much as that for college, plus an additional $65,000 to repay college loans and, on top of that, $4,500 a year in tuition assistance while serving.

It's enough to make you forget about war -- at least for one dreamy moment: Kid leaves college after two years, eases stranglehold on parents' crumbling bank account, then gets paid by Uncle Sam to go back to school.

"They come to serve their country, but we stay on their behinds to make sure they get an education, too," an Army recruiter told me. Not a bad hook. Now the catch.

The Pentagon announced Monday that 4,255 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq and 589 killed in and around Afghanistan. And I still don't know for what.

On the other hand, there have been roughly 2,400 homicides in the Washington area since 2002. And I don't know what that's all about, either, other than that most of the killing is concentrated in the District and Prince George's County, where I live, and involves mostly young African American men, like my son.

Statistically speaking, he'd probably be safer in Baghdad than in parts of our nation's capital.

Is that a rationalization, or has this tanking economy caused me to lose my mind?

From my experience, anyone joining the military only "to get an education" will be disappointed - even though most do leave smarter than when they came in. But best of luck to Milloy the younger, and others making similar decisions. I'd hand them a copy of Roosevelt's Sorbonne speech, and tell them that if it was easy, everyone would do it.


Posted by Greyhawk / March 11, 2009 7:07 PM | Permalink

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Oh, he'll get an education alright. Probably a lot like the education I got from Drill Sergeant Moreno, Drill Sergeant Alicea, and Drill Sergeant Rosen at Fort Benning.
20 years later and I still remember their names.

With respect to the safety issue....

I have no idea how to do it objectively, but I think there must be a way to establish a safety factor for a place.

In a college classroom you don't expect to be shot-at. So your preparedness, watchfulness, and the security features in that environment are all low.

In a war zone, you expec to get shot-at. Your preparedness, watchfulness and the security features in that environment are all high.

Now, we need a way to compare risk of being 1 of the people harmed per 1000 people there times that Safety Factor in the war zone to the risk of being one of [how ever many people are at VT] times the other safety factor.
To me the big risk is in not doing something, and then spening the rest of your life wondering what if?

Heh.

Maybe somebody else has done the work for me.

http://nooilforpacifists.blogspot.com/2009/03/under-publicized-fact-of-day.html

Actually the article doesn't quote the son saying anything about wanting to go into the Army because it will pay for his education. That's the columnist's spin on it, his rationale for why it might (emphasize might) be okay if his son enlists, providing a financial motive. Maybe the kid's not even interested in college.

Good points. And you're right Sadie - the author never mentions what his son's motives might be. The thoughts he chooses to share are of himself.

Speaking from a parents point of view. My son enlisted because he believed in honoring his country. I Knew and he did that death could be a factor. He did look for getting a college education at a later date , as he told his wife. But that isn't what motivated him. I said before he died that (actually from day 1) it was more dangerous to live in the usa that to stand in the war zone. If you check the stats on any give day you will see more young people are killed from may things in their own home state. So money was not a factor but it looked good too.

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America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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  • Greyhawk: Good points. And you're right Sadie - the author never read more
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  • Larry Sheldon: Heh. Maybe somebody else has done the work for me. read more
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The Mudville Gazette is written and produced by Greyhawk, who recently retired from 24 years of active duty in the US military, but will maintain this disclaimer: Unless otherwise credited, the opinions expressed are those of the author, and nothing here is to be taken as representing the official position of or endorsement by the United States Department of Defense or any of its subordinate components.

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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004