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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! February 11, 2009 We Have Met the EnemyBy Greyhawk...and he is ours. Or us. NPR interviews an Iraqi Insurgent, and the Mrs asks if stories such as these are really necessary, or "did NPR just give a platform for this anti-American insurgent to spew his propaganda?" She says "I'm just a military wife whose husband could have been in these attacks". While that perspective certainly justfies her position I offer (at great risk of sowing family disharmony) counterpoint. Such airing of grievances as NPR provides can indeed be useful, and I can provde an example from recent history to back that statement up. It's not the most recent example - the Nir Rosen joins the Taliban dust-up from late last year. My case study is from May, 1998 - when John Miller (of ABC) traveled to an unspecified location to interview a little-known terrorist leader named Osama bin Laden: John Miller, ABC: Mr. bin Laden, you have issued a fatwah calling on Muslims to kill Americans where they can, when they can. Is that directed at all Americans, just the American military, just the Americans in Saudi Arabia?To which "Mr bin Laden" replied "We do not have to differentiate between military or civilian. As far as we are concerned, they are all targets, and this is what the fatwah says ... " In that fatwah, issued earlier that same year, bin Laden listed his primary reasons for calling for a jihad against America. First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.Had Miller not taken the time end effort (and risk) to seek out bin Laden we might have spent the months after 9/11 wondering "why do they hate us?" even after we'd been given the answer from the horse's mouth: Iraq. To more fully understand bin Laden's complaint we have to roll back a bit further in time - to January of that year: January 17, 1998: President Clinton, testifying under oath to lawyers in the Paula Jones harassment case, denies having had an affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.Whoops - sorry, almost but not quite. Here's the moment I was aiming for: January 13, 1998: Iraq blocks an inspection by an American dominated team. It accuses the leader of the team, Scott Ritter, of spying for the US. UNSCOM timeline: The Executive Chairman reports to the Council that during the first day of an inspection, Iraq announced that it was withdrawing its cooperation with the inspection team on the pretext that the team had too many individuals of US or UK nationality (S/1998/27 of 13 January 1998).Unlike several previous denials of U.N inspectors, this one would provoke a vigorous response from the administration: January 26, 1998: "I want you to listen to me. I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. I never told a single person to lie, not a single time, never." - President ClintonWhoops - sorry again. I meant to quote President Clinton's State of the Union address from the next day, in which he assured the world that the US was prepared to eliminate the imminent threat posed by Saddam Hussein: Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq's arsenal than was destroyed during the entire Gulf War. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission.Elsewhere, frustrated UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter would detail the horrors beyond WMDs he had witnessed in Saddam Hussein's Iraq: "The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children — toddlers up to pre-adolescents — whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene." Tensions in the stand-off escalated, and by February 17th the President declared "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." The next day in an Ohio Town Hall meeting Secretary of State Madeleine Albright assured citizens that "Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face. And it is a threat against which we must, and will, stand firm." From the same stage, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger expressed no doubt as to Hussein's capabilities and intentions: "He [Saddam] will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." USA Today reported that anti-war protesters at the meeting got their comeuppance from a heroic soldier who phoned in a timely message: Some of the protesters held aloft a banner that said, "No War," but one caller identifying himself as a U.S. soldier on duty in Germany said he supported Clinton's approach.And the administration backed its tough talk with actions. ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON...And that wasn't all: In addition to the U.S. and coalition forces already in Kuwait, a brigade task force from 3d Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga., rapidly deployed to Kuwait. Departing from Hunter Army Airfield, the brigade task force deployed 4,000 personnel and 2,900 short tons of equipment on 120 aircraft. Within 15 hours of landing at Kuwait City International Airport, the unit had drawn prepositioned equipment and was in battle positions in the desert. On Feb. 28, Coalition/Joint Task Force-Kuwait was prepared to defend Kuwait with a ground force strength of more than 9,000 personnel.Of course, all that is familiar history to the average American, as is the previously mentioned February 23, 1998 fatwa issued by bin Laden calling for the destruction of the United States: ...despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.But in one of history's greatest anti-climactic moments, United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan traveled to Iraq for a three-hour meeting with Saddam Hussein, after which the UN announced a deal on weapons inspections. The New York Times, February 26, 1998: WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., urged President Clinton on Wednesday to reject the U.N. accord with Iraq, while the administration worked on bolting down precise details.The BBC: As part of a bid to stop UN staff being disheartened by critics of the agreement, Mr Annan told them: "It is the (Security) Council, not a few critics, who will have the last word.The military would stand down - for a few months. The coalition assault on Iraq would not come until December of that year: December 11, 1998: The House Judiciary Committee approves three articles of impeachment on a 21-16 party line vote, passing them to the full House of Representatives. The three articles accuse Clinton of lying to a grand jury, committing perjury by denying he had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky, and obstructing justice. Clinton declares himself "profoundly sorry" and willing to accept censure.Whoops - once again, my mistake. Here's what I meant to say: December 16, 1998: The United States and Great Britain begin a four-day air campaign against targets in Iraq, Operation Desert Fox. The stated mission: "to strike military and security targets in Iraq that contribute to Iraq's ability to produce, store, maintain and deliver weapons of mass destruction."In spite of the brevity of the attack, the BBC would report that during those four days "more cruise missiles were fired on Iraq in Desert Fox than during the entire Gulf War in 1991". But that's a story for another day. For now we return to John Miller's May, 1998 interview with Osama bin Laden: John Miller, ABC: Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia."In America, we have a figure from history from 1897 named Teddy Roosevelt. He was a wealthy man, who grew up in a privileged situation and who fought on the front lines. He put together his own men - hand chose them - and went to battle. You are like the Middle East version of Teddy Roosevelt," Miller told bin Laden, concluding that "the American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will." So imagine for a moment if American reporters never interviewed their nation's sworn enemies, never gave them a chance to tell their side of the story. Consider that if John Miller had held that point of view back in 1998 Americans today might be completely ignorant of bin Laden's motivation, could even be convinced that the Iraq war began in 2003, the war on terror in 2002, and that Iraq had no connection whatsoever with the sudden, unexpected events of 9/11. Fortunately that's not the case. He did conduct that interview, and as a result the American public is (as we were in 2003) well informed on the issue that could be considered the most vital confronting our nation today. Postscript - two months after Miller's Osama bin Laden interview: August 7, 1998: African embassy bombings This is the eighth year anniversary of the arrival of U.S. troops into Saudi Arabia and the start of United Nations sanctions against Iraq. A bomb explodes at the rear entrance of the U.S. embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, killing 12 U.S. citizens, 32 Foreign Service Nationals (FSNs), and 247 Kenyan citizens. About 5,000 Kenyans, six U.S. citizens, and 13 FSNs were injured. The U.S. embassy building sustained extensive structural damage. Almost simultaneously, a bomb detonates outside the U.S. embassy in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing seven FSNs and three Tanzanian citizens, and injuring one U.S. citizen and 76 Tanzanians. The explosion caused major structural damage to the U.S. embassy facility. The US holds Osama bin Laden responsible for these acts. (Note: unsourced quotes above are from here.) More to follow... Posted by Greyhawk / February 11, 2009 3:54 PM | Permalink 1 TrackBack(Or "we have met the enemy and he is us, too") ***** Part one is here. ***** There's much to be gained from dialog with "the enemy" in any conflict. Reporters, however, don't have a monopoly on that dialog. Here, for example, is a story on efforts by U... Read More 3 Comments |
February 3, 2010Dawn Patrol 02/03/2010 [Mrs Greyhawk]
Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world. If you're a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link to any of these stories, add a link to the Dawn Patrol too and your trackback will be added to the list. Hat Tips to the Dawn Patrol are greatly appreciated.Refresh for updates.
AFGHANISTAN/PAKISTANPentagon Behind Obama Schedule for Deploying Troops to Afghanistan -- [FOX] Mullen: Afghanistan success window small -- [Washington Times] US Marines facing a 'different war' in Afghanistan -- [AFP] Predators pound terrorist camp in North Waziristan -- [Long War Journal - Bill Roggio] Eyes in the Sky -- [Army Live] Revenge on the Taliban, from 10,000 feet -- [Washington Post] Pakistan blast kills US soldiers (Video) -- [BBC] 3 G.I.s Killed in Pakistan. Now Can We Start Treating This Like a Real War? -- [Danger Room - Noah Shachtman] Never take it for granted -- [One Marine's View - in Afghanistan] It's the Economy, Undergraduate -- [At War] Around ANA Land -- -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Dari Keyboard -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Taking Tea with the Taliban -- [Commentary Mag - Michael Rubin] New Afghan police officers graduate -- [Helmand Blog] U.S. military officers could face punishment over ambush in Afghanistan -- [Washington Post] Afghans protest to Iran over border killings -- [Reuters] IRAQBomb kills 20 in Iraqi Shi'ite city of Kerbala -- [Reuters] Obama, Biden meet with Iraqi VP -- [AFP] Iraq court lifts ban on hundreds of candidates -- [Atlanta Journal Constitution] Blair Called a Liar in Iraq Inquiry -- [NY Times] U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLDMultiple Air Force crews, Landstuhl staff team up to save Peace Corps member injured in Kazakhstan -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany ] Iran hints at prisoner swap for 3 U.S. hikers -- [Washington Times] US Denies Speaking to Iran About Prisoner Swap -- [Voice of America] Ahmadinejad backs deal to remove bulk of enriched uranium from Iran -- [Washington Post] US wary as Iran president agrees nuclear deal terms -- [BBC] Emergency Assistance Still Hasn't Reached Many Haitians -- [Washington Post] China's threat to sanction US firms in arms sale could backfire -- [Los Angeles Times] Corrected: Obama to meet Dalai Lama despite Chinese warnings -- [Reuters] WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISMPanetta: Terror Attack in US Likely Soon -- [Military.com/AP] Would-be LAX terrorist's prison sentence overturned as too lenient -- [Los Angeles Times] Bill Would Forbid Civilian 9/11 Trials -- [Military.com/Atlanta Journal-Constitution] DOJ's New Tool Against Criticism: New Media -- [FOX] Brennan: All Transferred Detainees Who Returned to Terrorism Were Released by Bush, No Recidivism for Those Released by Obama -- [ABC News] Is there an adult in there somewhere? Bueller? Bueller? -- [The Armorer] MI5 hunting breast implants of death -- [WND] SUPPORTING THE TROOPS...OR NOTImpact of deployment on kids -- negative reporting and troop bashing hurts them too -- [You Served] Interview with Lorrie Nichols of The Journal of An Army Wife -- [Army Wives Lives] The Predictably Unpredictable Army Strikes Again.... -- [SpouseBuzz - Andi] They Ache -- [SpouseBuzz - Sarah] Military OneSource Tax Filing Services -- [Military OneSource] Wounded Warrior returns to West Point as WTU Commander -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany] MILITARYLaw barring lies about military medals faces test -- [Washington Post] Why Stolen Valor doesn't violate 1st Amendment -- [This Ain't Hell...] Air Force Academy creates worship area for pagans, Druids -- [USA Today] The Wiccan Cross -- [Greyhawk]
WELCOME HOMEArrival at Home- Final Post -- [Doc H - home from Afghanistan] I have been home for a few days now. Tricia and the kids met me at the airport around midnight. It was a joyous reunion that was just a little overdue. Amazingly the kids went to school and continued their activities the next day. There was a nice banner on display in the house welcoming me back home. Our trip to home was even more circuitous as time went by. Due to a heavy snowstorm in Baltimore, our transatlantic flight diverted to JFK airport in New York. We had a night in a hotel nearby and completed our journey to Baltimore the next day Shorn -- [OPFOR - Lt Col P - heading home from Afghanistan]
THE MEDIA/SOCIAL MEDIAIf Not Now, When?: Duty and Sacrifice in America's Time of Need Wins 2010 Colby Award -- [PR Newswire] CSI: Miami - Promoting the Good in Iraq -- [A Soldier's Perspective] Jeremy Renner nominated for best actor in 'The Hurt Locker' 'The Hurt Locker' may rewrite script on Iraq war movies -- [NY Daily News] Charlie Brooker - How To Report The News
POLITICSSeeking balance: the 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review -- [Foreign Policy Review] Don't ask Don't Tell -- [Greyhawk] The Case Against Gays in the Military -- [Wall Street Journal] Credit Where Credit is Due -- [BlackFive - Grim] Marine Ilario Pantano for Congress! -- [BlackFive] HUMOR / SATIRE'Gays Too Precious To Risk In Combat,' Says General -- [The Onion]
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Greyhawk. Greyhawk. Grey-effing-hawk! Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, et al could not have laid this out any more clearly. This post is a keeper. dubya shoulda hired you as press secretary.
Heh. Brilliant.
Something else to keep:
"I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave."
King Fahd Bin Abdul-Aziz, Jeddeh 1993