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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! December 12, 2008 Does anyone find this funny? UpdatedBy Mrs GreyhawkIs it just me, cuz I'm not amused. Via the Onion: We have guys who are truly making every effort possible to stay in the military and go back with their band of brothers and there are some who are disheartened to realize that will never happen. Over at Bill and Bob's Excellent Afghan Adventure you can find the email address to the Onion and their sponser. He's as angry as I am and has a few words on the matter. UPDATE: Emails here: The Onion editorial email: Also, Both Fosters and Burger King are advertisers, Burger King, which has their restaurants on almost every military base in the US and most of the large bases overseas to include Iraq and Afghanistan Let's get them to pull this poor excuse of satire down and demand apology. The determination and bravery needed for our troops to go back to war after being seriously wounded is not something to be ridiculed.
Our Soldier's Angel in Germany has a post (with Video) that might put some perspective on this. IIt's about the ten Soldiers of Operational Detachment Alpha 3336 of the 3rd SF Group who will be awarded the Silver Star today for their actions in the Shok valley of Nuristan province, Afghanistan back in April. "You can take my leg, but you can't take my heart and you can't take my soul. I'm a Green Beret." As [Master Sgt. Scott] Ford and Staff Sgt. John Wayne Walding returned fire, Walding was hit below his right knee. Ford turned and saw that the bullet "basically amputated his right leg right there on the battlefield." It is a harrowing tale, be sure to view it. It's guys like these and the ones I linked above that the Onion is mocking. UPDATE III What others have to say: Another Angel isn't happy and is Boycotting the Onion John of Argghhh!!! thinks it stinks and points out exactly what the Onion missed. He also mentions in an email that maybe we should invite The Onion staffers and the actors in that bit to visit Walter Reed and/or Brooke in San Antonio, and meet some soldiers and Marines who are working to get back in the fight. That's a great idea!!! Anyone who has visited our wounded at Landstuhl, Walter Reed or Bethesda, would not find ANY humor in this bit. BlackFive and Laughing Wolf express their opinions here. Maj Chuck Z, who is a combat veteran and was wounded in 2005, while serving in Iraq, writes a letter to the Onion and to their sponsors Troy Steward believes they have crossed the line and ask you join him in the Pitchfork Brigade Cassandra asks in her open letter: "Why do you find it "laughable" for wounded soldiers who have recovered from their injuries to resume the duties for which they have been trained?" UPDATEIII: Via email from Greta via Anita.Lavine@screenlifegames.com>: Dear Greta- Thank you very much for bringing this issue to our attention. We completely agree with you that the Onion's story was inappropriate, and we are working with them to resolve this as soon as possible. Please accept our sincere apology, and assurance that it is not our intention to support offensive or harmful content. And: More from Greyhawk here. Posted by Mrs Greyhawk / December 12, 2008 10:58 AM | Permalink 1 TrackBackFor eight long years, real Americans like Keith Olbermann have had to choke back their patriotic dissent, cowed by fear of violent, jackbooted fascists like this and their henchmen: the Chinese-toy loving minions of the richest 1%. But no more.... Read More 12 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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The onion is always full of tasteless BS, but this is much worse than usual.
It is NOT even slightly amusing to ridicule our wounded warriors whose devotion to duty does not end because of injuries suffered in battle.
I think The Onion falls into the same category as South Park and Wonkette, where nothing is sacred and everything is ridiculed with equal opportunity. Tasteless if it was coming from anywhere else though.
I'm not sure how tasteless becomes a function of who says something.
A thing is either in good taste or it is not; regardless of who does it. If it treats the subjects (wounded troops) as though they were mindless automatons who are being forced to do something against their will when in fact these guys are doing something incredibly heroic - and something I dare say most of us wouldn't have the stones to do - how in God's name is that not "tasteless"?
Actually, I believe "patronizing" would be a better word. But then that's pretty much been the party line all along, hasn't it?
there is satire... and then there is the point where it crosses completely out of the bounds of comedy into outright contempt disguised (however loosely) as satire. the judgment of whether it is the former or the latter is the sense of the common man -- and this is the latter. only the posers that put this crap together would or could believe otherwise.
Humorous? Hmm, maybe I'll ask some of my brothers what they think.
Cpl. W. lost a leg in OIF I but reenlisted in time for OIF III. I'll see if he finds humor in it.
Sgt. L. lost both legs to an IED and still tried to reenlist before being wheeled into surgery. Maybe he'll think it is funny.
Perhaps I should ask Maj. U. if he chuckled. After losing his left arm in a cordon and search operation, he begged the Pentagon to let him stay in.
Surely they'll all see the humor.
Me? I'm still fighting the VA about my disabilities and I'm too pissed to laugh.
Thanks The Onion you're doing great things for your country.
I am in the middle of doing revisits for Injured Marine Semper Fi fund and so particularly sensitive to crap that dishonors our wounded and injured servicemembers. I think I'll just take your word for it that it's tasteless and beyond the bounds even for the Onion and not actually watch it.
Works better for my blood pressure, sanity and marriage that way...
The Onion dedicated an issue to the war in Iraq. It was a compilation of previous articles. Not a funny remark in the whole paper.
This isn’t the first off-color unfunny thing the Onion has said about the war. When the football player , Tillman, for the Cardinals died while serving in in Afghanistan, The Onion put out a blurb. They quoted him after losing a football game saying, “I want to die. I just want to die.”
Thanks for that update from Anita Lavine. Nice to see the quick reaction, and we'll see what happens next.
Good job on this, Mrs. G.
Looks like it has been taken down
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_how_can_we_make_the_0
Lone message:
Thank God
I am a former Marine who served in the Iraq War and I lost one of my limbs in combat.
I thought I should say that otherwise you guys would jump all over me for somehow being "anti-American" or something.
This is clearly satire. It may come off as a bit harsh to you over-sensitive types, but wounded vets are still humans, strong ones at that, and we're not precious, delicate things that need to be given a special permit to be off limits to comedy material. Frankly I was happy to see any media coverage, real or not, on some wounded soldiers.
The fact is many soldiers wounded in combat do wish to keep serving, and those without serious injuries are allowed to do so. The Onion was simply exaggerating this for comedic purposes. Anyone with half a brain can see they aren't making fun of wounded vets.
Believe me, we have been through enough already (physically and mentally) - a silly comedy sketch isn't gonna hurt our feelings. Or at least I would hope not, cause otherwise what are we fighting for after all?
"The fact is many soldiers wounded in combat do wish to keep serving, and those without serious injuries are allowed to do so."
At least, until the Pentagon is forced by public opinion to stop letting them. And that's the real issue here, not whether the Onion is making fun of wounded troops. As you note, they aren't, they're just making fun of "the Pentagon" for returning injured troops to full duty status.
"I thought I should say that otherwise you guys would jump all over me for somehow being "anti-American" or something."
Why would you anticipate that?
I'm a medical guy with a clearly dark sense of humor and when I showed the guys I worked with the video, they laughed too. We're tasteless too, after seeing some of the crazy stuff we have, we joke about some strange things. It made us think of Starship Troopers, clearly something out of fantasy.