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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! October 11, 2008 ABC News Exposes Secret Government Phone Sex RingBy GreyhawkBush to blame... details at 11.... ABC News: Exclusive: Inside Account of U.S. Eavesdropping on Americans. (Americans in Iraq, by the way - not your grandmother in Boise.) The story is told by two "whistleblowers" - former enlisted troops who were stationed at the National Security Agency (NSA) center in Fort Gordon, Georgia. You're not likely to hear any detailed response from the 'accused', whatever service they perform is the sort generally explained by the official answer "no comment." But here's what Adrienne Kinne and David Murfee Faulk say was going on behind those closed doors: ABC: "...hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home, according to two former military intercept operators..."If that's so, I'd counter that phone calls were intercepted, and until they were heard there was no way to know who was holding that phone or what they were going to say. But some might argue it's wrong on principle to throw a wide blanket over a war zone and intercept as much communication as possible. Arguably, the question becomes "what do you do with the innocuous calls once you've determined they aren't useful?" Here's Faulk's answer: Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of "cuts" that were available on each operator's computer.Even if "some colonel" was using a military phone with the full knowledge that he could be monitored, that sort of stuff sucks, says I. Oddly enough, ABC doesn't report it, but there are also claims that at least one operator was reprimanded for ignoring a fax that "that purported to provide information on the location of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction" and "contained types of information that required that it be translated and transmitted to President Bush within 15 minutes" and instead was "eavesdropping on two nongovernmental aid workers driving in Iraq ". According to Adrienne Kinne that operator was Adrienne Kinne - more on that (including the source) shortly. First, let's acknowledge that Faulk expresses his remorse for his actions regarding "phone sex": Faulk said he joined in to listen, and talk about it during breaks in Back Hall's "smoke pit," but ended up feeling badly about his actions.Some might accuse Faulk and his pals of being creepy little assholes abusing the system with which they're entrusted - but ABC wants you to know who the real villain in this story is. Here's their lead paragraphs on the story: Despite pledges by President George W. Bush and American intelligence officials to the contrary, hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home, according to two former military intercept operators who worked at the giant National Security Agency (NSA) center in Fort Gordon, Georgia.Thanks only, of course, to the hard work and tireless efforts of the investigative journalists at ABC, right? Wrong - on that topic either ABC is lying, or their subjects are lying to them. And David Swanson is righteously pissed: On Thursday, ABC News reported a big new break in the story of illegal and unconstitutional spying that our government has engaged in for years now, except that there was nothing new in the story and the important parts were left out.You can follow the links at that link for details. What you'll discover are fairly unexciting claims that the NSA intercepts phone calls from Iraq, there were no mass quantities of WMDs found in Iraq, Kinne's explanation that she was finally speaking out in 2007 because of her opposition to the surge, and her claim that she was reprimanded in 2003 for ignoring a WMD document while eavesdropping on aid workers. As the angry author acknowledges, only the phone sex angle got this story on ABC. Wait - you'll also learn that Kinne is a member of IVAW (IVAW on Mudville, IVAW on MilBlogs), another fact that ABC didn't include in their story. And you'll learn that every round fired by every tank in Baghdad in April 2003 was somehow controlled by the NSA. (Or maybe just one, and it was used to kill journalists...) This detail has Swanson pissed, too: When I reported on Kinne over a year ago, I reported that Senator Patrick Leahy was ignoring her requests. Now, in response to ABC News picking up the story, Leahy is pretending to be interested in the matter.Or maybe he's just looking at an election year calendar this year. As for ABC's motivation, it might be the many, many fabulous prizes they could win for "investigative journalism" Asked for comment about the ABC News report and accounts of intimate and private phone calls of military officers being passed around, a US intelligence official said "all employees of the US government" should expect that their telephone conversations could be monitored as part of an effort to safeguard security and "information assurance."...or they might just be trying to sell books: Both former intercept operators came forward at first to speak with investigative journalist Jim Bamford for a book on the NSA, "The Shadow Factory," to be published next week.That book will be published by Doubleday - a company that I can reveal here for the first time ever has a super top secret exclusive deal to distribute Mickey Mouse books for Disney - the company that OWNS ABC!!!!!! Posted by Greyhawk / October 11, 2008 12:54 PM | Permalink 1 Comment |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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So these nimrods listened in on phone sex from Iraq. Was anyone prosecuted or inconvenienced by this act? Was someone carted off to prison for beating off to his wife's voice over the phone? Was someone arrested for listening to his girlfriend explain that she was wearing the crotchless panties he bought her before he left for 12 months in a 120 degree sandbox?
Where's the crime here? The crime is that two operators listened to the wrong stuff instead of listening to the words of terrorists, who were in plentiful supply during their tours. The crime is in the dereliction of duty of these two no loads who embarrassed their country, and let down our troops by not doing their jobs.
A slightly less major crime is that Jay Rockefeller will use this to suppress intel which could be used to rescue kidnapped American soldiers (again) the next time they are targeted.
I hate politics in all military applications. Soldiers need to do their duty, support their mission, AND their leadership, and keep their frickin' mouths shut if nothing illegal has been done. I'm tired of us having to work ten times harder than a terrorist to defend my own countrymen.
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