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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! April 8, 2008 How not to get the Story (Part 7,000)By GreyhawkSo the AP puts out this story: Gunmen Release 42 Students in IraqWhich may explain why the AP wanted desperately to report on the many ways insurgents are kicking our asses. Juan Cole included it as part of a collection of mainstream media stories detailing how the insurgents are kicking our asses Up in Mosul, over 200 miles to the north of Baghdad, guerrillas kidnapped, then released, a bus load of 42 college students on Sunday. If guerrillas can do such a thing with impunity in broad daylight, there can't be much security in the Mosul area.Which is arguably true - if you unquestioningly believe mainstream media reports from Iraq (though after 5 years, why would you?) Credit Cole for publishing this the next day: With regard to the kidnapping of 42 students from a bus near Mosul, who were later released, I received this from a US military observer in the area:But though the lightbulb sort of flickered, it didn't quite come on:'Mr. Cole, It is great to have some background on the way the release was accomplished, information that was to my knowledge not reported in the wire services. And it was certainly good news that the students were released. But I didn't say the US military was impotent; what I said was that if people can be kidnapped like that in broad daylight, security can't be very good. And while it is welcome that security was restored for these victims, it still seems like a high crime area. . .Now I'm not a Juan Cole reader (you gotta do better than sitting in your living room regurgitating half assed MSM stories about Iraq to get my attention), but a very well informed commenter here alerted me to the story, in hopes of inspiring more folks to take up Cole's invitation and counter claims like these. Because who has time to spend two seconds looking for MNF-I press releases to get their side of a story? (Hint: not the AP) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASEWhich, oddly enough, came out the same day as the AP story. Imagine that. Update: Via comments below, looks like the AP could have rounded out their story if they had checked with (pauses for dramatic effect)... ...The AP!: AP photojournalists Evan Vucci and Maya Alleruzo are on scene when U.S. and Iraqi forces rescue a group of Mosul University students who were taken hostage.Link is to the AP video. What is with bogus bus stories from Iraq these days? Posted by Greyhawk / April 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Permalink 13 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Great post. Glad to help.
As you and I have felt for a long time, GreyOne, it is criminal that journalists routinely receive and then ignore completely the press releases of the US Military in their reporting. They absolutely believe that it is forbidden to report the facts provided by the US Military to ANY event they question. I assume it is because they believe the US Military will lie to cover up any unflattering stories.
Have you EVER come across a deliberately false press release from the US Military in your career? In my 21 yrs, I NEVER came across one that was false on its face. Inaccurate, and rushed with incomplete facts, maybe. Falsehoods? Never.
I would believe any DoD press release before I'll believe an AP release for the rest of my life.
Subsunk
Cole's got a history of being credulous when the media publishes a story that he wants to believe, as well as misinterpreting media stories in a way that's consistent with his political predispositions. Google "Millenium Plot" and you'll find one of his posts that gets it completely backward.
Aw, hell. Here it is.
I have noticed this OVER and OVER again. It's a sixties hangover, not doubt. Thanks for doing what you do.
Look, journalists are basically lazy. Don't believe me? Then what is the point of news releases, the public relations industry, spin doctors, etc.? Too make the job of disseminating information "easier" not "better". Then you have agenda and projection to deal with - Mr. Cole has both - his agenda is admittedly tilted left-wards and his projection is to believe the worst in our military and our political objectives. He is just one example of rampant hostility and disbelief by our so called mainstream (soon to be extinct) media. But if you want to track back to where is all originates you have to go to the public school system in America.
I saw this story the other day. 'Saw' not 'read', mind you. It was a video report from the AP.
Funny that Cole is astonished at the note he received. I wonder what the level of market penetration he assumes he has? Enough, apparently, that he can rely on readers to do his due diligence for him. But he is on the hook now. He has invited first person correctives and his blog IS well traveled by the feckless Lefties most in need of de-ignoramusizing. We should take him at his word and aid him to understand what is so obvious to us. It is our sad duty...
Juan Cole is not really a journalist and he's a sad excuse for a poseur. His pretensions fail to impress anyone not already convinced of his silly statements on Iraq.
It would be a piece of cake for me (alone, much less with three friends) to kidnap a bus full of students. I bet I could do so in any city in America or Europe on any given day, if I were so inclined. Does that mean that, say, New York is a lawless place, and that the government is failing to provide security?
I hardly think you can say so. But it might mean that if I got away with it. Which I wouldn't in any reasonable country, and apparently can't in Iraq.
What it does mean is that there are a fair number of brazen and crazy bastards still around, but that they're being stomped down by the forces of law and order. Not the best situation, I grant, but it's in the right direction.
I am always saddened that Juan Cole is given the weight he is by so many in the MSM. Early in the Iraq campaign I had more than a couple of e-mail exchanges. I always appreciated both his civility and his willingness to take time to correspond with an unknown like me, but I was always left with the impression that he simply chose to ignore and not respond to direct questions and facts presented. I bear the man no ill will, but perceive him to be rigidly locked into his viewpoint and dismissive of anything that challenges it.
What Juan is missing is that a group of armed terrorists could just as easily kidnap a bus full of students here in the US. The outcome would be about the same. This shows improvement, not increased instability in Iraq.
In defense of Cole, his blog is a good source of information from the Arabic press.
It is widely read by people in the U.S. Embassy, USAID, and the Provincial Reconstruction Teams, because it provides insights on Shia Iraq which are not available in the MSM or other blogs.
By Cole's standards, security in Chowchilla, California in 1976 must have been abysmal. Not only was a school bus full of children seized in broad daylight, but they were also able to bury the bus with the children aboard.