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April 8, 2008

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How not to get the Story (Part 7,000)

By Greyhawk

So the AP puts out this story:

Gunmen Release 42 Students in Iraq
2 days ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Iraqi police say gunmen have released the 42 college students they kidnapped earlier in the day near the northern city of Mosul.

Brig. Gen. Khalif Abdul-Sattar says the gunmen initially released the only two girls aboard the hijacked bus. They later set free remaining occupants after making sure they were not members of the security forces.

The bus carrying the students was ambushed Sunday morning on the main highway linking Mosul with Baghdad.

Abdul-Sattar says another bus carrying students managed to evade the ambush. Three students aboard that vehicle were injured when gunmen opened fire as the driver sped away.

Mosul is located 225 miles northwest of Baghdad.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

BAGHDAD (AP) — Gunmen ambushed a bus filled with college students on the main highway linking Mosul and Baghdad early Sunday, kidnapping 42 people, authorities said.

Meanwhile, overnight clashes in Baghdad's Shiite district of Sadar City left five dead and more than a dozen wounded, police said.

The incidents illustrate the continuing instability in Iraq as the top U.S. officials here prepare to brief the U.S. Congress this week on prospects for further reductions in the 155,000-strong American force.

Which may explain why the AP wanted desperately to report on the many ways insurgents are kicking our asses.

Juan Cole included it as part of a collection of mainstream media stories detailing how the insurgents are kicking our asses

Up in Mosul, over 200 miles to the north of Baghdad, guerrillas kidnapped, then released, a bus load of 42 college students on Sunday. If guerrillas can do such a thing with impunity in broad daylight, there can't be much security in the Mosul area.
Which is arguably true - if you unquestioningly believe mainstream media reports from Iraq (though after 5 years, why would you?)

Credit Cole for publishing this the next day:

With regard to the kidnapping of 42 students from a bus near Mosul, who were later released, I received this from a US military observer in the area:
'Mr. Cole,
You should check your sources closer before you report on the "impunity" of the insugents to operate in the Mosul area. My unit was involved in the location of the college students mentioned in your blog. They were not released by the insurgents at their leisure. They were found by coalition forces, engaged to disable the dump truck that the students were being transported and then freed by combined coalition, Iraqi Army and police forces. The four individuals that were driving the dump truck were all detained by Iraqi Army and police units after firing at U.S. helicopters and then hiding among women and children to avoid being fired upon. I know these items are facts as the operation occured a mere three hours after I completed my mission for the day and was briefed by the aircrews that were responsible for the capture. Please know that everyday we see dispicable acts that are perpetrated upon the Iraqi people in the name of the "insurgency". They dare not engage directly because they have learned of the swift and deadly consequences that will occur to them if they do. Also realize that I see the Iraqi security forces taking a larger role in every operation that we conduct here in Ninevah provence of which Mosul is a part. I know that the axiom "if it bleeds it leads" is more true now than ever, but yesterday was a win in the books for the Iraqis and the coalition. Yesterday yielded 42 students that are home with their families, 4 bad guys that are not on the streets, and not a single bystander hurt by coalition or Iraqi forces alike. That is a good news story, not a bullet to show how impotent we are to what is occurring on the ground. '
But though the lightbulb sort of flickered, it didn't quite come on:
It is great to have some background on the way the release was accomplished, information that was to my knowledge not reported in the wire services. And it was certainly good news that the students were released. But I didn't say the US military was impotent; what I said was that if people can be kidnapped like that in broad daylight, security can't be very good. And while it is welcome that security was restored for these victims, it still seems like a high crime area. . .

What I can't understand is why I don't get more letters like this one. I take eyewitness accounts seriously. I'm a classic political liberal and I think the maximization of information is intrinsically good for a republic.

Now I'm not a Juan Cole reader (you gotta do better than sitting in your living room regurgitating half assed MSM stories about Iraq to get my attention), but a very well informed commenter here alerted me to the story, in hopes of inspiring more folks to take up Cole's invitation and counter claims like these.

Because who has time to spend two seconds looking for MNF-I press releases to get their side of a story? (Hint: not the AP)

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
RELEASE No. 20080406-04
April 6, 2008

Iraqi Security Forces rescue 42 kidnapped students

MOSUL, Iraq – The Iraqi Army rescued 42 college students after they were kidnapped by insurgents in southwestern Mosul April 6.

The Iraqi Army detained one suspect, and Iraqi Police are currently searching for additional suspects.

After Iraqi Security Forces reported the kidnapping, a Coalition force aircraft spotted a suspicious vehicle thought to contain the students. The insurgents fled the scene after the vehicle was stopped.

Some of the students left the area but were picked up by Iraqi Security Forces while others made their way a nearby Iraqi Security Forces combat outpost.

All 42 students are accounted for and are safe.

The Iraqi Army detained one of the insurgents at a nearby house. Iraqi and Coalition forces continue to search for others individuals involved in the kidnapping.

“Today’s efforts by the Iraqi Security Forces display not only their commitment to tracking down insurgents, but also their ability to secure the future of Iraq,” said Maj. Gary Dangerfield, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment spokesperson.

The incident is under investigation by the Iraqi Security Forces.

Which, oddly enough, came out the same day as the AP story.

Imagine that.

Update: Via comments below, looks like the AP could have rounded out their story if they had checked with (pauses for dramatic effect)...

...The AP!:

AP photojournalists Evan Vucci and Maya Alleruzo are on scene when U.S. and Iraqi forces rescue a group of Mosul University students who were taken hostage.
Link is to the AP video.

What is with bogus bus stories from Iraq these days?


Posted by Greyhawk / April 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Permalink

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Great post. Glad to help.

As you and I have felt for a long time, GreyOne, it is criminal that journalists routinely receive and then ignore completely the press releases of the US Military in their reporting. They absolutely believe that it is forbidden to report the facts provided by the US Military to ANY event they question. I assume it is because they believe the US Military will lie to cover up any unflattering stories.

Have you EVER come across a deliberately false press release from the US Military in your career? In my 21 yrs, I NEVER came across one that was false on its face. Inaccurate, and rushed with incomplete facts, maybe. Falsehoods? Never.

I would believe any DoD press release before I'll believe an AP release for the rest of my life.

Subsunk

Cole's got a history of being credulous when the media publishes a story that he wants to believe, as well as misinterpreting media stories in a way that's consistent with his political predispositions. Google "Millenium Plot" and you'll find one of his posts that gets it completely backward.

Aw, hell. Here it is.

it is criminal that journalists routinely receive and then ignore completely the press releases of the US Military in their reporting. They absolutely believe that it is forbidden to report the facts provided by the US Military to ANY event they question. I assume it is because they believe the US Military will lie to cover up any unflattering stories.

I have noticed this OVER and OVER again. It's a sixties hangover, not doubt. Thanks for doing what you do.

Look, journalists are basically lazy. Don't believe me? Then what is the point of news releases, the public relations industry, spin doctors, etc.? Too make the job of disseminating information "easier" not "better". Then you have agenda and projection to deal with - Mr. Cole has both - his agenda is admittedly tilted left-wards and his projection is to believe the worst in our military and our political objectives. He is just one example of rampant hostility and disbelief by our so called mainstream (soon to be extinct) media. But if you want to track back to where is all originates you have to go to the public school system in America.

I saw this story the other day. 'Saw' not 'read', mind you. It was a video report from the AP.

Funny that Cole is astonished at the note he received. I wonder what the level of market penetration he assumes he has? Enough, apparently, that he can rely on readers to do his due diligence for him. But he is on the hook now. He has invited first person correctives and his blog IS well traveled by the feckless Lefties most in need of de-ignoramusizing. We should take him at his word and aid him to understand what is so obvious to us. It is our sad duty...

Juan Cole is not really a journalist and he's a sad excuse for a poseur. His pretensions fail to impress anyone not already convinced of his silly statements on Iraq.

It would be a piece of cake for me (alone, much less with three friends) to kidnap a bus full of students. I bet I could do so in any city in America or Europe on any given day, if I were so inclined. Does that mean that, say, New York is a lawless place, and that the government is failing to provide security?

I hardly think you can say so. But it might mean that if I got away with it. Which I wouldn't in any reasonable country, and apparently can't in Iraq.

What it does mean is that there are a fair number of brazen and crazy bastards still around, but that they're being stomped down by the forces of law and order. Not the best situation, I grant, but it's in the right direction.

I am always saddened that Juan Cole is given the weight he is by so many in the MSM. Early in the Iraq campaign I had more than a couple of e-mail exchanges. I always appreciated both his civility and his willingness to take time to correspond with an unknown like me, but I was always left with the impression that he simply chose to ignore and not respond to direct questions and facts presented. I bear the man no ill will, but perceive him to be rigidly locked into his viewpoint and dismissive of anything that challenges it.

What Juan is missing is that a group of armed terrorists could just as easily kidnap a bus full of students here in the US. The outcome would be about the same. This shows improvement, not increased instability in Iraq.

In defense of Cole, his blog is a good source of information from the Arabic press.

It is widely read by people in the U.S. Embassy, USAID, and the Provincial Reconstruction Teams, because it provides insights on Shia Iraq which are not available in the MSM or other blogs.

By Cole's standards, security in Chowchilla, California in 1976 must have been abysmal. Not only was a school bus full of children seized in broad daylight, but they were also able to bury the bus with the children aboard.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

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