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September 25, 2005

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Do's and Don'ts

By Greyhawk

Time to take a look at how well the Daily Kos Do's and Don'ts advice went over with this weekend's protest crowd. We're only looking at the "don't" list today. The remainder of the text below is from Daily Kos; the pictures from various reports on the festivities.

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Don't have a hippy drum circle:

There are few things more annoying and irrelevant than a bunch of dreadlocked Boulderites banging on drums while dancing around with erect nipples under their hemp shirts.

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Don't have a gothic pagan chorus on the stage talking about mermaids:

This actually happened at the last November 3rd movement rally. It has nothing to do with the overall point of the protest. Rather it is just an opportunity for superficial hipsters to whine about "mother earth". They then leave to go get coffee and don't stay for the rally.

Don't talk about gay rights or other issues that have little to do with the Iraqi invasion:

Believe it our not, all of the protesters do not see eye to eye. Although Palestine and gay rights are very important issues (and yes, I do realize that there are parallels between imperialism with Palestine and Iraq) that does not mean we should have speakers that talk for 30 minutes on the subjects. It is sloppy and off message to the united coalition of organizations and individuals against the Iraq war to talk about different issues that they may not agree with. Stay with a poignant message and prosper.

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Don't use the slogan "No Blood For Oil!":

Face it. The bromide is tired, used. Be creative.

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Don't march to the Halliburton building:

Guess what, most of the workers aren't there on Saturday. We've done it two times with little to show for it, enough is enough.

Don't talk for an hour and a half, leaving supporters standing:

Last time different speakers talked for a little over and hour and a half. The primary reason we showed up was not to hear people speak about things we are already aware of or don't care about. We wanted to march! By the time the speeches were over, a good chunk of the crowd had left, and no media was around.

(Greyhawk notes: Read here. Also see Cindy Sheehan told to finish her speech here.)

Don't wear black bandanas or gas masks:

Want the police to target you? Wear a black bandana over your face. Wear a gas mask. I know, I know, it's the cool anarcho thing to do, but it's also very foolish. If you feel you might need them later (for whatever reasons...), put them in your bag where you'll have easy access to them.

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If you bring kids or animals, stay on the sidewalk.

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Don't set up a [deleted] T-shirt stand selling Anti-Bush propaganda made in Hanes sweatshop factories:

Everytime I go to a rally I see some baby boomer liberal [deleted] shelling his shallow and petty white T-Shirt crap. Don't do it. To ad insult to injury, the shirts are usually from some sweatshop company like Hanes. When you try and talk to the vendor he gets all defensive and babbles something about an "honest" living. Yeah, right. For that matter, let's keep all aspects of consumerism out of the rally. Protests are about community empowerment and action, not buying stuff. Save it for conferences and book signings.

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More:

DC photos here

Counter protests at Walter Reed here and here. (Move over Lebanon - America has lots of "protest babes" too.)

LA protest photos here.

Video of rally to honor military families (a counter-protest) on CSPAN here.

Closing thought from Holly Aho, must read.


Posted by Greyhawk / September 25, 2005 5:26 PM | Permalink

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Ha. Turns out many of those marching in London yesterday were actually ex-employees of a catering company, protesting their dismissal. You couldn't make this stuff up.

Didn't realize Chewbacca had fallen on hard times. Guess the Star Wars residual checks are no longer paying the bills.

There was a "peace protest" by a group of aged hippies at a very busy intersection in my town yesterday afternoon. They followed standard protocol by brandishing "No Blood For Oil" and "Bush Lied People Died", signs.

Their garb and hygiene habits were hippie standard issue as well. Tie dyed shirts. Birkenstocks. Protruding underarm hair. Gray, scraggly pony tails attached to the back of balding heads. The men too.

They also had a number of "Honk For Peace" signs. I pulled over and watched for a bit as hundreds (actual numbers, not Sheehanesque estimates)of cars drove by. Many people laughed at them. Some shook their heads. Not one single car beeped.

Actually Dogwood, I posted on Chewbacca's involvement in the anti-War movement just the other day.

http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/the_nose_on_your_face/2005/09/lando_chewbacca.html

"Gray, scraggly pony tails attached to the back of balding heads. The men too."

How supremely ironic! The eternally hip generation dusts off the 1968 playbook and puts it's fogey-ness on display.

I don't get it. The drum in the middle looks like it was made by a corporation. And the white bucket drum on the right looks like a plastic bucket, which, of course, was made from petroleum products produced by a really big corporation. I wonder how many brown people Bush had to kill to make that guy's bucket?

Hey! Some of us were fogeys even then, at age 21 or so. Of course, we were also only there for the drugs, sex, and rock and roll.

By contrast, the people at the Support the Troops Rally today in DC looked like they actually take baths occasionally. I am not saying that those that don't regularly bathe are not free to march and speak their minds but....

Story and pics here

Don't try to revive your parents' or at this point your grandparents' glory days, especially when their democratic party was comfortable with an assertive foreign policy

On the "drum" thing: Those were two very military-looking, not Amerind-looking, drums in that picture. The one carried by the woman creeped me out, being one of those thin, flat snare drums originally invented for the Hitler Youth drummers, those kids not being big enough to march with a full-size snare drum.

Owhell, rhythmic drum beats are a way to submerge the individual consciousness into the collective. That's why armies used them. Also why hippies use them.

Being neither soldier not hippy, I march to my own cadence.

"Sweatshop"?

Why does Kos hate poor brown people and not want them to have employment?

Mean ol' Kos.

Hey now, *I* have a greying ponytail on a balding head. It complements my rapidly-silvering temples and beard.

FWIW, I shower twice a day most days.

I should floss more often, though.

Speaking as a former Boulder, Colo. resident,
the dreadlocked drum circle with the erect nipples is the _best_ part of any rally. Nothing like about 5000 of them on a mountainside. Trust me on this.

The Movement has gotten really boring in the last 20 years.

I happened to be in downtown Los Angeles, and caught the tail-end of the rally there by chance last Saturday. Pictures are here.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004