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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! April 28, 2007 Get ready for "failure day"By Greyhawk"News" from the New York Times: The White House Scales Back Talk of Iraq ProgressNow I looked, but I can't find any news there. But then again, I was paying attention in the early days of the surge. (January, within days of the announcement.) Back then reporters wanted to know from (then-MNF-I commander) General Casey exactly when they could call the operation a failure. Short version: "What's your thinking about how long these additional troops will need to stay here?" "It will be late summer before we see some results to cause us to make decisions." But the headlines the next day read: "General: Some Troops Heading To Iraq Could Be Home In Months" In reality (if not in the "reality based community") in spite of the passage of time Casey's comments are consistent with General Petraeus' this week: Q: ...And secondly, your recommendations in September, are you willing to countenance the idea that you may have to say to the president, this is not working, we should pull troops out, or are you more likely to say things are not going well, here are the adjustments and strategies we need to make?So there's no news in that "late summer bit". (And note there's been no promise by either man of victory by that date. That will change in the September news - just watch.) 2008? Back in March, unnamed "military officials" leaked this story... The day-to-day commander of U.S. forces in Iraq has recommended that the heightened U.S. troop levels in Iraq be extended through February 2008, military officials said.... to the New York Times. Who in today's "news" claim: In interviews over the past week, the officials made clear that the White House is gradually scaling back its expectations for the government of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. The timelines they are now discussing suggest that the White House may maintain the increased numbers of American troops in Iraq well into next year.But I guess New York Times reporters don't read the New York Times. What we'll get in September will be another candid assessment from General Petraeus (it will be ignored or distorted - as this week's was) of progress of an ongoing process - along with recommendations on how to go forward from there. To predict more would be folly. But I do predict "some" will claim anything less than a declaration of "total victory" (and that declaration won't happen) is defeat. As noted, reporters want a "date certain" they can declare failure, and will gleefully do so once that assessment date arrives. By pretending they are "news" (or an "extension") each time such dates are noted will ensure maximum attention, and ignoring what is really said will enable the media to pretend they said something completely different when the time comes. Amazing what you can accomplish by flat out lying about what people say and when they say it. But it's not surprising that the Ignoratti believe what they're told. (More here.) Posted by Greyhawk / April 28, 2007 6:51 PM | Permalink 7 Comments |
March 17, 2010Dawn Patrol 03/17/2010 [Mrs Greyhawk]
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AFGHANISTANSuicide attackers killed in Afghanistan -- [CNN] US kills 8 terrorists in 2 new airstrikes in North Waziristan -- [LWJ - Bill Roggio] S.N.A.B.U. = Situation Normal All BAF-fed Up -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Post Office Doesn't Like Me -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Danger Room Explainer: Outsourced Intel in Afghanistan -- [Danger Room] IRAQIraq Votes - Part VI -- [MEMRI] Mission Accomplished: Astroturfing Baghdad -- [Danger Room]
U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLDAllies everywhere feeling snubbed by President Obama -- [Washington Post] Chahar-Shanbeh Souri -- [Planet Iran]
WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISMIf bin Laden is found, he'll be killed, Holder says -- [AP] ACLU files lawsuit for information on US Predator program -- [Threat Matrix] SUPPORTING THE TROOPSArmy Suicides Grow, but This Soldier Was Saved -- [Politics Daily] Silver Star Winner Reprimanded for Afghan Battle -- [ABC]
MILITARYArrrrrrmy Training, SIR! -- [This Ain't Hell] WELCOME HOMEBushrod honors were not misplaced -- [Fredericksburg.com] They're Coming Home! -- [KBND]
THE MEDIA/CULTUREIt's just some ribbon. -- [From my Position...]
POLITICSGE and Ronald Reagan: The Mutual Gift That Keeps On Giving -- [Politics Daily] Petraeus Testifies About DADT
The Petraeus briefing: Biden's embarrassment is not the whole story -- [Foreign Policy Blog] HUMOR/SATIRE
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Chuchill said, "Hold firm, Hold Firm and sooner or later these Black hearted men will make a mistake and we'll have them."
We might have to include some Democrats in that one.
US Officer Corps Fighting Wars That Will Never Occur (Again), While Losing Those That Actually Do.
I happened across this article recently and since the 'foundation' of it pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the subject, I thought that I would post it here for any interested. It is not precisely on topic but is fairly close. I imagine that it is 'controversial',but if Iraq does end up badly, I hope that someone(s) AT THE TOP pays a price for the failure. If I were Bush I would,in fact, be head-hunting as we speak.
Frankly and I realise that this is simplistic but I can't get my head around the concept that a Nation can spend $419 BILLION on Defense and be where the US is at this moment in time. I join Lieutenant Colonel Yingling in saying that things must change. SOON.
Well I guess if I had read DOWN a bit, I could have saved everyone some time here. Now I am in the regrettable position of having to go 'hunting for my own head'.
Geez !!!
ps-- Still agree with the Colonel however. Perhaps his 'specifics' are questionable but based upon the 'results in evidence', his overall 'foundation' looks fairly indisputable. And that's a real shame and could end up as a real tragedy if things unravel completely.
Unless we simply buy into the concept that it is all inshallah someone(s) has to walk the plank, and the system needs to be 'corrected'. It is not getting the results we expect,and more importantly it is not getting the results we NEED.
THe should just order the pull out from now!
I would Second,my dear Mr. Churchill...Hold to Good even if you hold all alone.
Thank you all for the E-ffort;this one has awoke...late,but I will remain awake,despite the view.
Illigitimati non carborunDUMB-apology to Vinegar Joe
Stay Strong,some of us do KNOW the difference,and will not be deluded by talk,we remain with Walk.
Between now and September the Democrats will force the Republicans to continually go on record as supporting the war.
Supporting the war will cost many Republicans thir seats in Congress.
Well, the media declared V-E day, then they declared V-J day; now in September they'll declare D-I day--all based on distortions.
No wonder I don't trust the MSM.
Sigh.