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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! April 23, 2007 Strange DaysBy GreyhawkMost Democratic lawmakers will admit the Iraq and Afghanistan funding Bill will eventually be re-written and passed: "The troops will get the money they need when all is said and done," predicted Sen. Carl Levin (D) of Michigan, who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, in a conference call with reporters on Friday. "There's a lot of Republicans who are very concerned about where we are [regarding progress in Iraq], and I think we can pick up some support on a veto override. which, even if we don't override, would show continuing momentum."The current version, as I believe I might have mentioned before, is a political ploy. But That doesn't sit well with many of the staunchest "anti-war" voters - who want the troops home yesterday: But for antiwar activists, it's not enough. Many Democratic lawmakers say they are flooded with calls from constituents urging them to live up to their campaign promises on the war.In fairness, I can't let a mention of Congressman Moran pass without once again sharing this meeting with one of his constituents: But Moran isn't the only one feeling the heat. Back to our first story: In Peterborough, N.H., antiwar activists staking out the front steps of town hall say they are disappointed, but that they understand the votes by their two freshmen lawmakers. "There's a game going on now; I can't say I understand the compromises," says Jim Giddings, a peace activist from Greenville, N.H. "I don't hold it against him," he said of Mr. Hodes, who represents this district. "He is trying his best, and his intentions are good."Surely he understands their anger. That's what Mr Hodes does best. At least, when he's getting heat from another direction, too Q: Do you not believe we have an obligation to these people [Iraqis]? "Sorry" he might have told them, "but you ain't my base." In fairness, I'm sure it's tough to keep the appearance of being a member of the "support the troops" crowd when the troops and their family members are speaking for themselves (it could even potentially threaten message control) but guys like Moran and Hodes have to lie in the beds they've made. Al Qaeda (ironically, in English, "the Base") shares the anger of the Democrats "base", too: Al-Qaeda's deputy leader has described the US plan to send 21,500 more troops to Iraq as a gamble that is bound to fail. Or not. The al Qaeda boys have certainly done their part - timing their bloodiest and most spectacular attacks in Iraq to coincide with key dates in the progress of the Democrats Bill. (Yes - the Bill they acknowledge won't pass, that they admit is a delaying tactic to wear down opposition to the war is causing people to die in Iraq.) Many Americans are probably disappointed that the Democrats commitment to troop withdrawal is less than that of Moqtada al Sadr: BAGHDAD — Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr ordered his ministers to quit Iraq’s government on Monday in protest at Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s refusal to set a timetable for a U.S. troop withdrawal.But in reality - at least according to the New York Times - if he were a Democrat, he'd be a "moderate": ...last week, he withdrew his six cabinet ministers from the government, complaining that it was not doing enough to rid the country of the Americans.Which sounds down right Republican. (But on some days, Joe Lieberman does, too.) Strange days, indeed. Addendum: Before I make the following broad descriptions, let me acknowledge upfront that there are exceptions within the groups - but I maintain that in general these are accurate. Democratic "anti-war" activists are angry about the "funding bill". They want the troops home now. Al Qaeda shares that goal. Troops and their families are outraged by the "funding bill" for other reasons - they don't want to quit. Needless to say, Republicans share that goal. So who - besides the Democrats pushing it - likes the thing? Apparently Moqtada al Sadr - but he's not all that keen on it either. I suppose part of my conclusion is in comments here: The Dems real strategy is "slow bleed" - keep the war going with greatest possible losses until enough people "jump ship" to their side and they "pick up Senate seats as a result of this war." (An oval office, too.) Then they'll guide the country as it should be. (Translation: figure something out.) And another peice is in comments here: I'd add that winning a war isn't a guarentee of political victory for the current President's Party (see 1992 for most recent example) - while losing will virtually assure their defeat. I'd add further that the Dems taking the White House doesn't concern me as much as it does others. But willingness to lose a war to do so - especially when it's historically evident (if not politically expedient) that they don't need to is a moral failure I won't forgive. I've provided the defense of the bill from its authors above - but if anyone can provide any additional support of this monstrosity of a funding bill please feel free to use comments here to do so. Posted by Greyhawk / April 23, 2007 11:30 AM | Permalink 1 TrackBackA short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention. Read More 5 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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I keep reading and hearing about "mixing PORK in with SUPPORT FOR OUR TROOPS." This is noting new. It's politics as usual. I have always believed that bills should go before congress standing on their own merit, and alone. OR, lets have line item veto! Was none of this PORK requested by REPUBLICAN leaders?
Ill let Jim Moran answer
Actually it was designed to get votes from those Democrats who wouldn't otherwise support it - and it got them enough to get the bill passed (narrowly).And House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also quick to point out that congress has been screwing taxpayers like this for years - so it's okay:
But not spinach or peanuts or logging or dairy farms..."Actually it was designed to get votes from those Democrats who wouldn't otherwise support it"
The pork was designed to embarrass people who voted against the bill to pay a political price in their home districts.
I.E. Vote against Madame Pelosi...and you will be on record as voting against something that your home district needs.
Not so much buying votes...as extorting votes.
The more grotesque the bill, the better! All the easier to veto and clean it up completely.
I think this log may roll back on some highly exposed toes.