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June 4, 2006

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Spanish Medallions

By Greyhawk

Barcepundit:

¿DID YOU KNOW that the Zapatero administration (you know, the "no blood for oil", "Bush is killing innocents" and "let's get out of this illegal war" one) just gave Spain's highest military decoration to... gasp... can hardly say it... to... to the US Army Chief of Staff? Yes, the chief of staff of an army that, on behalf of Bu$hitler and his cronies, entered in Iraq and killed innocent civilians, tortured and murdered with no restraint, all based on a long stream of lies.
Barcepundit's on our side, by the way - his sarcasm is directed at the Spanish government's hypocrisy.


Posted by Greyhawk / June 4, 2006 3:50 PM | Permalink

18 Comments

Naturally, there's a different way to look at it. Maybe the Spanish withdrawal from Iraq represents neither pacifism nor anti-Americanism, but rather a realization that they were tricked into being there to begin with and are best off disengaging themselves from that particular disaster.

"...but rather a realization that they were tricked into being there to begin with..."

So explain why the Spanish would then honor the same military that "tricked them" into joining the Coalition in Iraq.

The Spaniards didn't honor "the military." They honored a specific U.S. military officer. The Spanish would seem to be a great deal more capable of higher thought than some Michaels in Michigan.

So if an award or honor is given, it's for "a specific military officer"...but when things go bad, it's an indictment against "the military". I think I understand now.

Why don't you quit being so defensive for a change? Face up to the truth instead of trying to run away from it. Nations that run away from the truth lose wars.

I'll be the cynical one -

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE0D91431F93AA15752C1A9639C8B63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fSubjects%2fM%2fMilitary%20Aircraft

Spain has a $2 billion dollar arms deal with Venezuela, and needs a US Export License to complete the deal.

"Nations that run away from the truth lose wars."

Yep, had we run away from this truth, we would be losing the war.

"Spain has a $2 billion dollar arms deal with Venezuela..."

In other words, Spain is now our enemy, if they are doing business with Chavez, whose goal is to take down the United States. Wonderful people, those Spaniards. Back down to Muslim terrorism and then aid and abet enemies of Democracy.

I think Soldier's Dad may have just solved the mystery or maybe I am just a sad cynical soul.

I'm not being defensive. I'm just stating the position you've made clear time and time again:

Good things are the act of a specific soldier.

Bad things are proof of institutional rot within the military.

Hey Michael, it's even worse than that. Spain has always been the European entrepot for Cuban cigars. In fact, if you weren't such a dweeb I'd tell you how to get Cohibas and Montecristos shipped from the Canary Islands straight to your door. But I'm sure you'd rather smoke Nicaraguan dog turds. Oh well. Your loss.

WW - I don't smoke. Thanks for the offer though.

You can honor a good soldier AND deplore the policies of the moron you people elected president. In this day an age, you would have to be stupid, wiullfully ignorant, or a blind partisan not to understand that.

That is done all the time for the sake of diplomatic relations. It has nothing to do with supporting one cause or another.

You 30% losers are so desperate that you'll jump on anything that remotely seems to validate your delusions.

That's why you are the 30% losers...

Folks:

I usually lurk here but I had to add my $0.02. That's enough. I read the Spanish version of the release. Gen Schoomaker is getting this award for his efforts to foment improved relations between the armies and the support provided the Spanish troops in Afghanistan.

Let's not forget that French, Spanish, German and Canadians are in combat operations there. So whatever, we want to say about their Iraq involment or lack thereof. The truth is they are pulling their weight over there.

Last, civilian governments come and goes, the professional military establishment remains. Like with us and the prior Canadian administration. Our problems were never with their military which are superb. In fact, I read that many Spanish officers expressed very strong feelings at leaving their comrades-in-arms (us) in the lurch.

Ps:

WW it had to be tiredsome to pull out the same knee-jerk responses. Get new ones.

Jose, your suggestion is better directed to the so-called "Milboggers," who continually trot out the same tired justifications.

"So called milbloggers"? What is that supposed to mean? Did I get discharged and not realize it? WW - back to the drawing board for you.

So-called milbloggers because the milblogosphere is almost exclusively a vehicle for far-right wing politics. Military issues are tangential, as illustrated by the so-called milbloggers' nearly total refusal to address a multitude of failures within the VA and within the management of the war.

The milblogs are a Republican megaphone, first and foremost. That's what you're here for. You are Bush's civilian propaganda annex.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004