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May 12, 2006

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Jim Mayer Speaks...

By Mrs Greyhawk

... on CNN.

Jim Mayer, the Vietnam veteran and friend of Fran O'Brien's co-owner Hal Koster who encouraged Hal to begin the free dinners for wounded troops was on CNN Last Night. (Video)

It doesn't shed a very good light on the Hilton.

Andi reports:

While the email campaign didn't save the restaurant, it did let them know veterans and troops care a lot about this issue. The top three executives had to shut down their email addresses ... I'm sure costing their IT department some bucks and unnecessary headaches. Plus, a PR firm had to [be] involved. They don't seem too successful in squashing the negative press.

It's really nice when you can use your blog as a way to do something good and help those who deserve to be helped. I don't think milbloggers are finished with this story. We still need to help Hal and Marty get on their feet. I should learn more tomorrow night about how we can do that [after attending the Fran's Friday Dinner hosted in another DC hotel]. Thanks to everyone for all you've done already.

Operation Remind Hilton

Just over a week ago, Fran O'Brien's was forced to move their belongings out of the Capital Hilton. The Hilton still "doesn't get it." Their tin ear is becoming thicker by the day.
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Meanwhile, TV and print reporters continue to be interested in this story. Today alone, there were four inquiries. Fran's may be out, but this story isn't going away, especially when the troops who were affected by this "business decision" continue to speak out.

The boycott of Hilton is really starting to grow .


Posted by Mrs Greyhawk / May 12, 2006 2:28 PM | Permalink

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This is in reference to a previous post Thursday, April 13, 2006 Todays Fat Load of Crap: Hilton Screws Over Disabled Vets From the Mudville Gazette Jim Mayer Speaks on CNN. Read More

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You are delusional.

No boycott is "growing." The only influence you have in this matter is in your own imagination.

Hilton won and that's the way our market economy works. The restaurant didn't have a leg to stand on --- if they did, they certainly would have obtained a stay or injunction given the media publicity.

I stayed at a wonderful Hilton facilty last week in Pentagon City --- on the OSDs dime no less. The same facility also hosted the SF Warrant Course, a Navy Logistics meeting and an ARNG recruiting conference during my three day stay. There's no boycott, the hotel bar was packed with off duty personnel and your pathetic cause celebre has no traction.

Keep on tilting at windmills...

"IRR Soldier" you are a jackass - and probably a REMF to boot, if you are serving at all.

This guy is helping triggerpullers who came back with parts missing, and Hilton management was cold and wanted to ditch them - they wanted the space and didnt give a rats ass about the impact on the troops.

Your sniveling sneering reply shows that you probably aren't even a servicemember at all.

Keep bakcing companies that don't give a crap corporately about veterans - and pray to God you or somone you know never has to go through what those guys and girls are going through and get shfted by a big corporation on top of it all.

You deserve the hell you will live in.

Hilton operated in bad faith, that isn't winning that's cheating and cheating is for losers.

Why would IRR Soldier be so positively gleeful in his assertion that there is no boycott? It's almost as if he were ... anti-soldier, anti-Iraq, anti-Bush -- and pro-Kerry?

IRR's observations are facts, and we do have a ways to go to evict Kelleher and restore Fran's. Still, the American Legion has taken a position that may have some effect (google "Hilton dishonors veterans"), especially if it starts appearing on their webpage and spreads to VFW, Veterans Affairs, and beyond. We won't get justice from one day to the next, but should get it if we keep after it.

I wrote Ramona Joyce (rjoyce@legion.org) to thank her and the Legion for their efforts, and I think actions like that will help more than calling IRR names. We just have to show him.

IRR have you posted here under a different name? Has everyones bestest buddy Willy returned?

The name is different but the rancid smell is quite similar.

Why the hell does everyone who is "anti-Bush" linked to "pro-Kerry?

I'll never understand. I guess when logic isn't applied to the premise, logic cannot prevail in the understanding.

Corporate America. Bigger dividends for shareholders. Who knows what their pension fund includes for corporations? Are you "unwillingly" supporting Hilton and other corporations/businesses you are boycotting for their stance on the state of Veteran's Affairs?

Time to look at your investment portfolio...

MJ
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Correction to the first line of my posting:

Why the hell is it that anyone perceived to be "anti-Bush" is linked to "pro-Kerry?"

There's a word for IRR's diatribe. Schadenfreude.

The PR spin that Hilton is putting out is disgusting. Times must be really hard for the Hotel chain if they can't repay room service fees to the folks at Fran's. Maybe they needed the money for jet fuel--expecially since thier corporate office just purchased a brand new Gulfstream 5 to get thier execs and "Vegas whales" to meetings(golf)on time. Maybe with the new jet they can go see for themselves how old the carpet was at Fran's.

A couple things about the original poster. In case anyone doesn't know, the IRR stands for(in Military terms anyway) Inactive Ready Reserve. As in he may have been in the Military once, but he isn't now(probably stands for something else anyway. I can't see this guy ever being in the Military, although he does know the jargon). Second, if you put your pointer over his screen name, you'll see it links to a website called "counterrecruiter.net" which looks to be an anti-military website. Obviously we should all find it difficult to take anything he says seriously.

And I can definately say I won't be staying at a Hilton hotel or any of their affiliates again. Their actions are ridiculous and disrespectful, to say the least.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004