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May 9, 2006

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More Hostages in Iraq

By Greyhawk

The US troops - all of them.

But it's not what you think, as the Christian Science Monitor explains:

PORK OR PRIORITY? Some senators raised the cost of the emergency spending bill for hurricane relief and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan by adding funding for, among other things, AmeriCorps, shrimp boats, and levee improvements in California. Supporters insist they are vital investments. Critics call them pork projects.

To avoid a presidential veto, House and Senate negotiators must lop at least $14 billion off the Senate's version of a $108.9 billion emergency spending bill that critics say is larded with pork.

If they fail, President Bush promises to issue the first veto of his presidency, and 35 Republican senators have already signed a pledge to sustain it. House majority leader John Boehner says the House will not accept a bill that spends "one dollar more than the president asked for. Period."

But as the story notes, "troops in Iraq and Afghanistan start running out of money at the end of the month."

And that's apparently why Trent Lott thinks he'll get his pork:

"The president needs that defense money, and he doesn't need it in July," says Sen. Trent Lott (R) of Mississippi, who with top Senate appropriator Thad Cochran (R) of Mississippi, led the drive to keep the member- sponsored projects in the bill.
He's got hostages, you see.

Pork: shrink.

Porkbusters: grow.


Posted by Greyhawk / May 9, 2006 9:47 PM | Permalink

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Well, I just looked up Kellog, Brand and Roots (KBR) a subsidiary of Halliburton.

Seems KBR is applying for separation from Halliburton as they want to go public as an independent company. They won't know the price of their IPO (initial public offering) until their application for separation from Halliburton is complete.

How does this play into our Military going broke?

Well, it seems that KBR, Inc. wants to go it's separate way as it holds billions of dollars in US Government contracts to provide "services" in the "Mid-east." It expects to get more as more globalization and militarization occurs in the world.

Check it out by going to the Halliburton site and looking at their KBR site. It says currently not available but on page 4 of their application to the Federal Exchange for separation from Halliburton you will see (in the first paragraph) that these vultures are hoping to skim the uniforms off of the troops in order to make their IPO and dividends pay out for their big time share holders.

Shame. Shame.

MJ
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I'm sure you mean Kellogg, Brown and Root.

Somehow you forgot to mention what, if anything, they've done wrong.

Yep, that's the correct filler for the acronym. I couldn't find it anywhere on their website, Halliburton's website or their application to the FCC.

What have they done wrong? Well, overcharge the government by $90 million and then claiming, "This kind of thing happens all the time. We usually work this out along the way."

In the meantime they are making a killing on the interest.

Food. They run the food operations. I belong to another website and the soldiers complain that once KBR is done with chow hall's very limited hours, there isn't even decent sandwiches in a refridgerator that security could access for them. It's back to the tent for their MRI's.

Riding shotgun for KBR. Soldiers are tired of riding shotgun for KBR contractors driving trucks in Iraq. They complain that these guys have no training how to avoing RPG's and IED'd. The "angels riding shotgun" put their lives on the line at military pay for war profiteers making $3,000 to $5,000 per week or more.

Soldiers are tired of puting their lives on the line for these guys. They said they are their to help the Afghani's or Iraqi's not Yanks trying to get rich quick and get out.

My brother, served a year with the Army Corps of Engineers, got sick of them not delivering tents, latrines or showing up and having camp set-up prior to an arrival of troops to a predetermined post. MRI's and hanging your ass in the breeze for latrines or writing your name in the sand.

He got sick of their inefficiency at high contract cost to the government real quick. He said, "We used to pay the military to have these jobs and they got done. Now we have guys that don't give a damn because it isn't them starving in the desert with a gun and a pack to carry and they've never been through boot camp to become brothers."

Maybe some people won't view that as wrong, but a low value on the report card of those making money off of a war.

MJ
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MJ, unless you know the name of the company you criticize, everyhing you say after is suspect.

...and it's MREs, not MRIs.

...and sure soldiers like to bitch about shitty duties, but the fact is, KBR feeds them, provides shelter, water, electricity, etc. Without KBR, the troops would be living in a much, much harsher environment than not being able to get a fresh sandwich after hours.

ohhhh...where to start on this one...

They run the food operations. I belong to another website and the soldiers complain that once KBR is done with chow hall's very limited hours, there isn't even decent sandwiches in a refridgerator that security could access for them.

KBR is directed which hours to operate those DFAC's you dolt. By the ACO--A military liason. Usually an O3 or O4. As far as the sandwhiches and security, that makes no sense. Was is people wanting a late snack?--if so then you're right back to the ACO. If it was a late mission, then you should--oh yea--also take that up with the ACO. Last time KBR went out on a limb to make sure everyone was covered, they got slammed by the DCMA for overcharging--that same incident you mention about the food.

"war profiteers making $3,000 to $5,000 per week or more."

Where do you people keep getting these numbers? There's not a simgle person in KBR making $5,000 a week. The next closest are people specifically hired by the department of defense and are paid out of Rock Island, VA.

Wanna know how much those drivers make? I'll tell you...the top end is $77,000 a year! Not to far from what truck drivers make in the US. All that media hype about the highest paid is a bunch of bull. KBR is the absolute lowest paid in country--out of over 800 companies.


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your commen about the USACE, (US Army Corp of Engineers), too funny--get your facts straight. Almost every last of the 200 billion that USACE controlled went to PCO companies, not KBR. KBR is seperate--its on LOGCAP. USACE falls under IRMO with PCO---reconstruction.

KBR only did reconstruction on pipelines, people bitched about it so they lost the contract over a year ago. USACE had billions they awarded to companies that had not-jack to do with KBR.

You must be looking over sites like halliburtonwatch.com which uses outright falsifications.


--making profit off war---um, yea, thats the idea. What, did you think walmart was going to close its doors and donate all its loot to support the war? Who then? BTW, KBR isn't wanting to split off you non-news reading feind...Halliburton is getting rid of it because it's not very profitable. 4 billion in costs is not the same as 4 billion in profit....have you ever so much as ran a pizza joint?

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004