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March 24, 2006

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Hostage Rescue

By Greyhawk

The hostage rescue in Iraq has certainly made headlines - and the use of the term "released" in those headlines has certainly started some conversations. The CPT has now appended a belated thanks to the soldiers who freed the hostages to their original statement condemning the occupation of Iraq and expressing their joy.

Another aspect of the rescue has been largely overlooked:

U.S. military spokesman Lynch, speaking to reporters in Baghdad, said the operation was put together in three hours after a prisoner being interrogated by American forces pinpointed the location of the hostages.
This could cause some embarrassing moments - the CPT's main mission in Iraq has been to help promote claims of abuse of detainees during interrogation by US Soldiers. They may now be obliged to "investigate" the circumstances that led to the rescue.

Of course, "abuse" is a term open to interpretation:

"They looked good and told us they had not been abused or beaten," said Peggy Gish, who visited the men with two fellow Christian Peacemaker Teams activists still working in Iraq. She said the freed captives had lost weight after months of inadequate food.
Thus officially eliminating diet restrictions, kidnapping, and murder from the Christian Peacemaker Team's definition of abuse. That leaves a lot of wiggle room.

So it's all good.


Posted by Greyhawk / March 24, 2006 8:24 PM | Permalink

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As the rescued Peacekeeper Team members begin returning home, people have noticed that they've been acting like brats.Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Mike Jackson, said he was saddened that Iraq hostage Norman Kember had apparently not thanked the Read More

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The murder part does seem a bit extreme but hey, who are we to argue with a definition from a group "commited to nonviolence"?

I don't imagine the dead hostage (Mr. Fox) would consider "murder" to be an exaggeration, but I guess we'll never know. And we certainly join the CPT in rejoicing that no shots were fired during the rescue. I would be very unhappy if one of our troops had been wounded in the release of one of these ungrateful activists.

What they need is a lesson in manners after a good spanking. Oh, but no! That would be torture.
Bah!

The CPT went to Iraq to find and report the "evil" they believed the US does in Iraq. They found evil, but not where they went to find it.

Even after being kidnapped, and one of them murdered , they still are unable to grasp what the face of evil looks like. These people are truly in their own orbit of the surreal.

Thank-goodness no good guys were hurt getting these scumbags back.

These people are interfering with our mission over there. Its bad enough tolerating "distractions"... over there, but tolerating "distractions" that also are hostile to our mission? What the heck is the Pentagon doing??!

These people are interfering with our mission over there. Its bad enough tolerating "distractions"... over there, but tolerating "distractions" that also are hostile to our mission? What the heck is the Pentagon doing??!

Seems to me the military can use reasons like this to get out in the Iraqi world, train Iraqi cops and soldiers, and just generally have a reason to wake up in the morning other than patrolling and trying to avoid roadside IED's. You know the soldiers involved in the rescue have got to be high-5'ing each other and feeling good. And even if the bad guys were "just criminals" and not "real live terrorists" THEY have got to be hiding in corners and trembling right about now, too. Don't downgrade the whole event because the victims both here and there are fools.

I worked in Iraq for a year as a contract firefighter on two US Military bases. While I was there I got to know many Military Civil Affairs personnel, Special Forces members, contractors and others who helped the Iraqi people on a daily basis. What is so ironic about the “Christian Peacekeepers” attitude about our Military in Iraq is that the Civil Affairs people, Special Forces, USAID, and others have done more for the Iraqi people in the three years that they have been there than Saddam did in his entire time in office. And they do more for the Iraqi people than these anti-American, headline grabbing twits called “Christian Peacemaker Teams”. My final question about this group is where the hell was the "CPT" when Saddam was starving his people while he built dozens of Palaces, and murdering hundreds of thousands of his citizens. Don''t think CPT would have an answer for that.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004