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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! March 7, 2006 Deputy Who Attempted to Kill Iraq Vet to be ChargedBy GreyhawkThe California deputy sheriff who gunned down an Iraq war vet will be charged: A sheriff's deputy who was videotaped shooting an unarmed Iraq War veteran after a car chase will be charged with attempted voluntary manslaughter, authorities said Tuesday.After a jury finds the son of a bitch guilty he'll face up to 18 1/2 years in prison. Previous entries here and here. Hat Tip: Bill Faith Posted by Greyhawk / March 7, 2006 10:49 PM | Permalink 5 TrackBacksGreyhawk has the story here. (I sent him the links.) Read More Many of you SoCal folks already know the story:Air Force Security officer Elio Carrion was shot during a routine traffic stop that quickly spiraled out of control. Carrion was a passenger in his friend's car when officers pulled them over... Read More More information of the proposed pay and retirement system are getting around. Read More (via L.A. Times) A San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputy who shot a suspect three times as a citizen videotaped the incident was charged with attempted voluntary manslaughter, authorities said today. San Bernardino County Dist. Atty. Michael ... Read More
What else the Main Stream Media isn't telling us. The tired gray crone finally got around to mentioning the recent incident in North Carolina. Read More 13 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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A prison term isn't even a start on what I'd do to the son of a bitch.
The cons just love bunking in with a cop.
I'm gonna guess he'll get 6 years, 4 years if he behaves himself.
All I can think is too much adrenaline after the car chase caused the deputy to go nuts. No excuse. But it may be why you get him on something besides attempted murder. DA was on Fox and he seemed like a good man
Surrendering to your passions, lacking discipline and self-control: these are unacceptable for anyone in authhority who carries. a weapon. It would be best to get rid of these guys before they screw up and hurt people. Short of that, we hold them accountable.
Of course, the actions of a rogue officer don't represent the police, just as the actions of misbehaving Soldiers don't represent the armed forces.
How very different this story would have been if there had been no video tape. Had that been the case the airman would be facing charges for assault or resisting. It is truly a disgusting story of police excess.
I just don't understand what happened here. Is the allegation that the cop told him to get up so that the cop would then have an excuse to shoot him? Why would he want to shoot him in the first place? There had been a car chase -- I believe, although I don't know details -- but no physical contact or spouting off that I've read about.
I have seen nothing that this cop has a history of aggressive behavior. Does it just come down to racism, wanting to shoot someone who isn't white? That seems ridiculous.
Does anyone have a REASON for the cop behaving this way, unless there's going to be a bunch of details coming out at the trial about him being addicted or having a history of questionable shootings or his marriage just broke up or *some* stupid damned thing that made him pull the trigger in what appears to be a premeditated murder situation, and *not* a sudden fear-for-my-life reaction.
I just got off the phone with Rurik and between us we put together an expanation you aren't likely to hear from the MSM. The cop who did the shooting is Deputy *Ivory* J. Webb. The guy who got shot was Air Force Senior Airman *Elio* *Carrion*. Maybe it's just two old mens' overactive imaginations but we decided an African-American cop shot a Hispanic-American airman for racial reasons. It beats any other explanation I've heard yet.
So he's avenging Rodney King ... ???
Since we're making suppositions here...
My take on it (I don't think I watched the video) was that Carrion was trying to calm the officer down and the more he did the more the guy got torqued. Maybe on a primal level he felt that Carrion was trying to assert dominance.
It shouldn't have mattered. There isn't any excuse for an officer being that out of control.
The deputy should go to jail, but California is an anti veteran anti military state who knows
Good. Justice will prevail. I hope. Most policemen are good, honest people but with the rise of the Police State, there has also been a rise in criminal activity by those who are supposed to protect and serve.
This seems to be one example of a rogue cop who should be behind bars.
In no way could I ever confidently be a cop, or even in the military. If called, I'd go. While it seems the deputy was definitely wrong, it's tough to judge unless you are in his shoes day-in, and day-out. I'm not letting him off the hook, but can really judge him myself.
That's why we have a court system in place. One that works.
Mike
Forget the liberal spin that he was an Iraq veteran. The perp was in a high-speed car chase. I don't care what war he was in, nobody gets to terrorize our city streets in THIS country!!
Do you think the DA would have filed charges if the cop had been white?? Do you think the (white) DA is throwing this equally brave, 9-years on the frontlines of crime, policeman "under the bus" because he's black??