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February 23, 2006

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The Circus is Coming to Town

By Greyhawk

Cindy Sheehan wants to bring her protest to the wounded at Landstuhl. This is the front page, banner headline story in today's Stars and Stripes:

On March 11, protesters plan to walk from Landstuhl Regional Medical Center to a parking lot just outside Ramstein Air Base, where Sheehan will be at a “camp,” paying tribute to those who have died in the Iraq war.

cindysns.jpg“Cindy will be with us at Camp Casey Landstuhl/Ramstein to call attention to the fact that Germany is Europe’s logistical hub for the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and others threatening Iran and the Middle East,” according to an event flier. “Germany has the power to stop the further use of U.S. bases in Germany for illegal wars and criminal methods of warfare — the power and the right to just say no!”

Organizers are hoping to erect the camp — known as Camp Casey for Sheehan’s son — in a parking lot outside Ramstein Air Base’s west gate. The parking lot is under German jurisdiction, said Erin Zagursky, an Air Force spokeswoman at the base. Protest organizers are meeting with city officials in Ramstein and Landstuhl to gain permission for their event.

Sheehan’s goals are to bring the troops home and have peace on earth, she said in an e-mail to Stars and Stripes.

Her son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, 24, was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004. Sheehan said in an e-mail she was too busy for a phone interview with Stars and Stripes.

“I don’t know anything about the visit,” she wrote. “It is being arranged by some people in Germany.”

With the Kaiserslautern military community home to more than 50,000 Americans with military ties, Sheehan could face a rough welcome. When asked for comment Wednesday on Sheehan’s upcoming visit, several soldiers in Kaiserslautern asked if they could be quoted anonymously.

One soldier, who recently returned from Iraq, did give his name but didn’t have much to say about Sheehan.

“Anything I would have to say about her, you couldn’t print,” Army Staff Sgt. Mark Genthner said.

Until today I never heard anyone at work even discuss this woman. Today I heard a lot of unprintable comments. The area they're hoping to use to set up Camp Lookatmeimontv is a very heavily trafficked road - cars will be virtually parked there in the heavy morning "rush" inbound to the gates at Ramstein. If Cindy's handlers get their wish they'll learn a lot about what the troops think of them.

On another note, "protesters plan to walk from Landstuhl Regional Medical Center to a parking lot just outside Ramstein Air Base". Just a thought, Landstuhl is on top of a hill, a few hundred feet higher in elevation then Ramstein. The downhill-only march is very indicative of the actual dedication and energy of this group.

Update: Much discussion in comments about counter-demonstrations. Truth is, most likely if this event comes to pass military members and families will be told to avoid any demonstrations or confrontations - this isn't the first such event here.

The entry road to Ramstein is secluded, and traveled only by those coming to or from the base. If Sheehan and company get permission to "camp" there that gate will likely be closed for the duration, with traffic diverted to other entrances. These measures are taken specifically to avoid any potential conflict. Their little party will go on without anyone to witness.

Except for reporters, that is.

And I doubt Cindy and Co. will be allowed to pass through the Landstuhl gate - and the wounded and their families will not see them, as both of the Fisher Houses and the hospital itself are not in view.

Make no mistake about it; this is a media event, not one for the troops. For those of you not covered by the UCMJ who might be considering arranging a counter demonstration, I urge you to follow the example of Citizen Smash and have a support the troops rally, not an anti-Cindy event.

Even better, you can join Soldier's Angels Germany, and support the troops even after Cindy goes home.


Posted by Greyhawk / February 23, 2006 5:55 PM | Permalink

9 TrackBacks

HouseholdSix has a post about Cindy Sheehan bringing her protest to Germany outside of Landstuhl Army Medical Center. Landstuhl is usually the first stop for our wounded coming back from the war on their way to Walter Reed or Bethesda Read More

The Round-Up from Most Certainly Not on February 24, 2006 7:46 PM

As February draws to a close, let's have a round-up of what's what on this fine Friday. It's official...Cindy Sheehan plans to export her brand of crazy to Germany next month. Protesting at Walter Reed isn't enough for these people, Read More

From The Mudville Gazette: The Circus is Coming to Town Greyhawk Cindy Sheehan wants to bring her protest to the wounded at Landstuhl. This is the front page, banner headline story in today’s Stars and Stripes. Sick, sick woman.  I can’t ... Read More

Cindy Sheehan is going to bring her protest to Germany outside of Landstuhl Army Medical Center. Read More

Ack! She's Coming Here! from Soldiers' Angels Germany on February 24, 2006 9:55 PM

Household6 at Patiently Waiting has just pointed me to this Stripes article about a planned Cindy Sheehan protest at Landstuhl on 11 March. More information on counter protest activities to follow. Read More

What's left to say about this media whore? Her son Casey grew up to be a fine young man in spite of her influence. He enlisted in the Army voluntarily and re-enlisted knowing he's almost certainly be sent to Iraq. Read More

Cindy Sheehan Planning Another “Support The Troops” Rally from Random Thoughts Of Yet Another Military Member on February 25, 2006 7:42 AM

This time outside Landstuhl Regional Medical Center and Rammstein Air Base According to the Stars and Stripes article. How original, protesting outside where injured soldiers are located, how Code Pink of you! On March 11, protesters plan to walk fro... Read More

Oh that this cancerous blight on our nation would expire already! How long is 15 minutes supposed to last anyway?! As much as I celebrate when Sheevez leaves the country, it’s downright embarressing having her insincere, butt-ugly mug show up as... Read More

No it isnt some secret military operation that the MSM is leaking, nor is it a blatantly false report of some abuse committed against Islam by one of our troops that is going to get our troops killed it is a single woman who is so deranged with her ... Read More

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"The downhill-only march is very indicative of the actual dedication and energy of this group."

Maybe we can find a cooperative DI who will be more than happy to run them back up.

Who pays for her too do all this traveling?Someone needs to cut her off!! I heard she is appearing at a REM concert next month? Damn them!! Stype needs to be beaten down as well!!!

I wonder how the German officials plan to guarantee her physical safety. I imagine there will be a lot of military personel who would love to see something happen.

From Landstuhl???????????

I'd comment, but my keyboard would catch fire.

Casey's mother continues to dishonor him in a most shameless way. It has long passed since this was about him (if ever); it's really about her and her 7th grade ideology. If anyone who has left this life is rolling over in his grave, it has to be Casey Sheehan.

"On another note, "protesters plan to walk from Landstuhl Regional Medical Center to a parking lot just outside Ramstein Air Base". Just a thought, Landstuhl is on top of a hill, a few hundred feet higher in elevation then Ramstein. The downhill-only march is very indicative of the actual dedication and energy of this group."

I'll pray for snow, and a complete failure of German snow removal equipment ;)

Or maybe a water main bursting, in sub freezing temperatures.

Or maybe you all, should how a proper "drink up" the night before, and "water the street"


Cindy Sheehan is a very sick woman. She is adicted to the limelight like an alcoholic to booze. She needs to be ignored.

Has anyone provided the German authorities a copy of her anti-Semitic remarks? They might be willing to provide a little tour of Dachau in the afternoon, before they post her out of country.

I wish there was a way to prevent her returning to the states when the Germans get tired of her sorry @$$ but unfortunately that would take more effort than it's worth. I've been to Landstuhl in the dark and distant past and have one question. Has the Army build a new hospital there? IIRC the hospital was well back in the base AND on a rather large ridge above Landstuhl platz. I don't think the GI patients would be able to see this sleeze unless she got on base.

Oh man this makes me so sick to my stomach and an anger that has me shaking!!
Don't let her back into America! Kick her out and send her to the front door of the insurgents.

Maybe organize a "base run" that happens to start, at the base of that hill, going up of course, oh, about 15 minutes before her scheduled walk. I can see it now, "Oh, excuse me, mam" .. "Sorry about that, mam" Could make it a little difficult to get down that hill!

Water balloon launchers. Scout a location within range of the gathering and give a demonstration of the value of indirect fire with rubber tubing and water balloons.

Or you could just paint verses on the Koran where they are planning on standing, and make sure that you get pictures of Sheehan presenting the soles of her feet to the words of the Prophet.

That should dry up her funding...

Really weird about her website. You can sign up for her blog, hosted by "Radio Left"(?) but there's no way to leave a comment. I tried. Has anyone else? Let me know if you find a way. BTW, really unprofessional and sh**ty looking blog.

What a Snake! She really gets off spending hotel time with the panderers. Rev. Jesse, Hugo C, and their ilk. She bought her last name by wedding Casey Sheehans father. Casey Sheehan got his name at birth. She is merely Cindy the Snake. Just put a shirt in my cafepress shop, troops section, for Casey.
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Having been at Landstuhl when my son was an "unplanned guest" via ar Ramadi, I can not even begin to fathom how anyone could associate LRMC with anything other than care and comfort. Why anyone would consider what they do at LRMC as something to "protest" is mind boggling. It makes me want to weep. Let her show up. The world will shake their heads in disgust the same as the rest of us.

Maybe all the airmen and soldiers and their families of the tri-base area should assemble at the gates of Ramstein, carry US flags and sing patriotic songs. I think the DC FReepers would be more than happy to loan them the MOAB (the Mother of All Banners).

Well, if she thinks that the DC and Capitol police forces were abusive, she ain't seen nothing yet when considering the Polizei. She'd better watch her "P's and Q's" very carefully during this little stunt.

Water cannons, batons, and plenty of other unpleasantries may await her!

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Why don't we sponsir an event for her in Baghdad? With a little luck she just might drive over an IED.

This could get interesting. The war is much more immediate for these people, and they don't have to rely on the shoddy MSM for their daily news. They can talk to people in the checkout line at the exchange or commissary!

As for the German community, I think that while many oppose the war, many are also afraid of the Americans leaving for good - simply for monetary reasons. Has anyone been to the small towns and cities where American bases have closed up? Have you seen all of the businesses that went under?

I'll be interested in seeing how this all falls out. I can only hope and pray that our soldiers and their families get together for a wonderful counter-protest - and prove that morale is just fine, thank you very much!

Military members and families will be told to avoid any demonstrations or confrontations - this isn't the first such event here.

The entry road to Ramstein is secluded, and travelled only by those coming to or from the base. If Sheehan and company get permition to "camp" there that gate will likely be closed for the duration, with traffic diverted to other entrances. These measures are taken specifically to avoid any potential conflict. Their little party will go on without anyone to witness.

Except for reporters, that is.

And I doubt Cindy and Co will be allowed to pass through the Landstuhl gate - and the wounded and their families will not see them, as both Fissher Houses and the hospital itself are not in view.

Make no mistake about it, this is a media event, not one for the troops. For those considering arranging a counter demonstration, I reccomend you follow the example of Citizen Smash and have a support the troops rally, not an anti-Cindy event.

Or you can join with Soldier's Angels Germany, and support the troops even after Cindy goes home.

I agree Greyhawk. Have a support the troops rally and don't mention Cindy. We here in Illinois, Soldiers Angels want to get a little magazine together. Nothing fancy. But have stories in it about the positive things troops are doing overseas. Stories like the schools opening. Food banks, etc. Leave them in those racks in grocery stores, libraries, etc. So that people have the opportunity to see more then what the media portrays.

I have learned from reading blogs, rather then getting mad at her. Use that frustration for the greater good. Hopefully we can do something postive with it!!

God Bless You and Yours

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
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