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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! January 6, 2006 Do TellBy GreyhawkGlenn Reynolds (and several readers - including military - via email) on don't ask, don't tell. A quick note: Congress is responsible for the policy - not the military. And as an e-mailer pointed out at Instapundit, now is probably not the time - the political climate is a bit hot. But another email pointed out that several (perhaps a majority) of troops getting "kicked out" because of this policy are doing so intentionally. I've seen this happen myself. In one case a young first-termer walked into the legal office and revealed he was gay shortly after getting orders to Korea. (This was the mid-90s - many thought Korea was the worst thing that could happen to you.) The "process of elimination" took several months, and while the legal wheels slowly turned the assignment could not be officially cancelled, so the Korea slot went unfilled - no doubt resulting in a tremendous workload increase for what would have been the gaining unit. And ultimately someone else got a very short notice assignment. A no-win situation for all - except for the young man who may or may not have been gay, but who eventually became a civilian. This is nothing new - some readers will recall Corporal Klinger on MASH (the television version) and his attempts at "Section 8". Once "don't ask don't tell" becomes a thing of the past some other avenue for escape will take its place. Posted by Greyhawk / January 6, 2006 10:39 PM | Permalink 2 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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I always referred to it as "the phrase that pays" because once it is said, the commander has to take action and the guy gets an honorable discharge out of the deal.........
The of course if he/she went to the legal office and declared he/she was fraternizing or shacking up with a squadie who was a member of the opposite sex, he/she would not be processed for separation till the Art. 15 or Courts Martial had been administered. Anyone remember Lt. Kelly Flynn. Her lawyer tried to play fast and loose with the ‘my client is a victim because she is female’. Took the Secty of the Air Force four days or so to respond that over 60 male officers had been booted for the same offense the previous year or so. Took a hearing before a Senate committee before the inquiring politicians were shocked, shocked to discover she was flying with Nuclear Surety requirements and was thus removed from duty for her actions.
Just remember, the advocates don’t want to be tolerated in the manner heterosexual behavior is often treated in the same “don’t ask, don’t tell” manner. They want to flaunt it too. This is not about equality. It is about power. When they don’t get what they want, they’ll claim they’re still being treated unfairly. So the stupid pols will lower behavior standards for everyone. Ever been in a unit with factions based upon who’s hammered who’s spouse/mate? Not a bonding moment. The military is not a civilian world or environment. Show me free speech, free assembly. To forfeit good order and discipline for political agendas will guarantee a disaster. Unfortunately its happened time and again.
The military suppresses natural human behaviors. Fear is natural. The effective military culture and organization spends a lot of time and resources to train and organize itself to reduce the effect of fear and the natural behavior to flee. Likewise, the military has to expend time and effort to suppress other behaviors which also include sex. It doesn’t take a PhD to figure out that sex creates tension among group members particularly when it comes to primate territorial behaviors. To retain effective small unit cohesion and good order and discipline, the military does inject itself into that realm, like it or not. And it applies both to hetero and homo sexual behaviors. If you’re going to deal with it, deal with it honestly and do not fail to address the consequences to both along with their impact upon discipline. Just remember, while the present situation may not be ‘perfect’ for some people, it may in fact be the best situation for everyone.