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December 2, 2005

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Bill Putnam - An independent look at Iraq

By Greyhawk

The Mrs pointed out one of her Dawn Patrol finds to me - Bill Putnam at An independent look at Iraq. He's an independent photojournalist blogging from Iraq.

Like this

Later that day we’re sitting on Bayji’s Market Road in front of a bank. Capt. Adam Lackey, Abu Company commander, was in the bank with some civil affairs officers. I decided to hang out on the street.

I had an uneasy feeling being out there. I lighted another cigarette and watched people walk home from shopping. One lady didn’t want to walk past us. Someone said “maku mishkala” to her and her friend encouraged her to get over her fears.

Strange, I thought. I snapped photos of this going down.

Then I noticed there were no kids around. Kids are around us all the time here. This was different. No kids mean something is going to happen.

More here. Get there before the rush.


Posted by Greyhawk / December 2, 2005 10:58 PM | Permalink

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BUSH LIED IN HIS SPEECH ON THE IRAQ WAR PLAN

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/embedded-time-reporter/

The lie is one more piece of evidence that the Fake President is getting ready to cut and run. In his speech, he lied that Iraq forces led an assault. In fact, an eyewitness says the assault was led by American troops and that the Iraqis "led nothing."

Not that any of this will matter to the Greyhaws and his Jawohl! crowd, who have long since proven themselves to be in the Republican propaganda business.

Spin, spin, spin ... Mr. Pratt, or is it Mr. Whitney?

who was first "in the door" Wilson? The Iraqis. So what if the SF was pointing the way ... when it came time for the bullets to fly, the Iraqis led the way where it counts -- WITH THEIR BODIES, with over twice as many men as we provided to the operation.

Once again, you only tell "your half" of the story. You'll twist the truth any way you can to support the Big Lie, Herr Goebbels.

Wilson wanna cracker?

And, the above comment assumes that the embedded Time reporter, and the left-wing site ThinkProgress, were ACCURATE and TRUTHFUL in their reporting ... both quite subject to question, as even honest people can misinterpret events in the light of their own biases.

OTOH, given your lack of respect for the TOTAL truth, and your unequivocal support of their position, it is prudent to question their truth, as well, since you consistently support falsehood.

Wilson wanna cracker?

Wilson, to non-military folks who aren't really paying attention that might seem like a real story, but to us its not.

Three years ago Iraqi forces didn't exist.

Two years ago they broke and ran at every opportunity - this is true of the April '04 battle in Fallujah.

Last November they fought in Fallujah, and none have broken and run since.

Now those units are in the lead. As your quoted reporter notes, they have Special Forces advisors with them, calling the shots, directing, etc. That is why the advisors are there.

His argument that they were not "in the lead" because they had Special Forces advisors with them is rather ridculous. No one - certainly not the president - is claiming the Iraqis are ready to go without our help. This is the whole reason we're still there. When the Iraqis are ready to go without Special Forces advisors is when we come home - victorious.

Your argument is why people like you aren't in charge of National Security.

More shockers: Special Forces troops are paid! Special Forces Troops are "ordered by the Pentagon" to fight in Iraq! None are really volunteers! It's true!

First, we can dispense with Rich's lame-ass argument that Think Progress had anything to do with the content of the report. Apparently, Rich can't read. If he could, he'd see that the Think Progress site merely passed the Time report along.

Now, as for Greyhawk's Jawohl! spin, it boils down to what the definition of "IS" is. Oops, the definiting of "primarily in the lead." The Time reporter says that the U.S. forces led the attack. The Liar in Chief says otherwise.

Now, I would agree that it's a toughie to figure out who lies more often, the Fake President or the controlled media. I guess in this case I'm more inclined to believe Time, because they don't lie each and every time about everything, like the military and the Fake President do.

If ThinkProgress is a true journalistic site, why did they give only "your" side of the story, Wilson ... just like you always do?

You ... and they ... can have summer jobs in the cherry orchards. Your skills in picking should earn you a lot of extra cash.

BTW, I see that Greyhawk has shredded your position on this matter, for all to see ... and that you still don't have an original thought to give us. (Well, except for Bush attacking Iraq because Saddam thought about switching to Euros ... that was a conspiracy theory worthy of a new tinfoil hat for you!)

Wilson wanna cracker?

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004