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December 1, 2005

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Posted by Greyhawk / December 1, 2005 12:06 AM | Permalink

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Charles Krauthammer has an new piece at The Weekly Standard about the debate over the efficacy and morality of torture. He makes some excellent points: Ethics 101: A terrorist has planted a nuclear bomb in New York City. It will Read More

Christmas Past visits Mr. Irvin from A Healthy Alternative to Work on December 1, 2005 12:36 AM

Christmas season is here. You can tell because people have been standing in line outside Wal-Mart, trampling old ladies on their way to the sales. Read More

Bush's overdue clear case for how to win and why it's necessary! The executive summary of the White House document! Read More

Parents’ Rights groups are up in arms over the content of the ultra-violent video game F.E.A.R., which was ranked in the top twelve games to avoid by the National Institute on Media and the Family.... Read More

Top 9 Other Saddam Prison Complaints from Political Satire Fake News - The Nose On Your Face on December 1, 2005 1:53 AM

Former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein complained to the judge during the second session of his trial on Monday that he had to walk up four flights of stairs because of a broken elevator in the courthouse. We here at TNOYF Read More

On June 28 of this year, the New York Times published a claim that the US Army systematically lies to young West Pointers. In fact, the Times piece claimed the Army had been lying to West Point cadets and recent graduates since the Vietnam War. But ... Read More

From the AP, via Yahoo News: Even before Bush finished speaking, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid issued a statement claiming that Bush “recycled his tired rhetoric of ’stay the course’ and once again missed an opportunity to la... Read More

(Previous related post here.) I'm afraid to say too much about this because if I let myself think about it very long I'm going to erupt in a string of profanity that goes way beyond even the loose limits Read More

No one believes that the anti-war Left actually cares about the military or about the lives from amongst its ranks that have been lost or affected in the fight against our Islamofascist enemies. But because it makes good copy or TV to confuse the suppo... Read More

A friend sent me this in e-mail. Read for your self what ails the Bush Presidency. It is scary how right these folks tend to be in their analysis.... I especiallly like their ideas about what is happening with Europe....... Read More

Important notice from my friend Gene Simes. Please pass the word to your Veterans organizations that they too can participate in these meetings without having to travel to Washington. VETERANS WE MUST UNITE Tune in on December 6, 2005 to www.stard... Read More

Jonathan Treadaway was very, very lucky. I'm sure he didn't feel lucky on September 11, 1974 when first questioned by Phoenix police about the sodomy and suffocation of six-year-old Brett Jordan. Or on September 12 when he was arrested and charge... Read More

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For some reason I can never get a trackback to work here! Here are my two posts re: Grey Eagle (one from A Rose and one from The Right Place)
A Rose By Any Other Name Beyond Words, Beyond Understanding
The Right Place They Are At It Again!

I am also having a hard time getting trackbacks to work consistently, but wanted to spread the word on a new foundation that is helping pay for the travel of family members to attend memorial services for KIA in the 3rd ACR. Foundation site is www.2nddragoons.org.

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March 19, 2010


Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003
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"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world."

Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...

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(More front pages here.)

Updating... more to follow....

MILBOGS

Andrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun.

Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit.

Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio?

Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking.

Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way.

Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch!

Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location:
From: Public Works Department
To: Saddam Hussein
Subj: BLASTING OPERATIONS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack

Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.

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BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon.

Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt...

Iraqi Blogs

Salam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house...

Other Blogs

Andrew Sullivan, The Daily Dish: How much more morally indefensible is appeasement when we also have complete international authority to do what must be done? I think we will look back in the future and not ask, as so many now are, how it was that diplomacy didn't get unanimity on this matter. We will look back and see the moral obtuseness of Chirac and Putin and Schroder and Carter and feel nothing but contempt for them, and their preference for state terror over the responsibilities of the free world. That's why I felt enormous pride tonight in the stand being taken by Blair and Bush. The president's speech was measured, firm, just. Blair's political risks - in order to do what he believes is plainly right - will confirm him in history as a great prime minister, the conscience of his party, and the leader of his country. I say that before this war begins, because the cause is just whatever vicissitudes of conflict await us...

Glenn Reynolds has a ton of links.

Other Opinions

Mark LeVine, Alternet - 'Bush Wins': The Left's Nightmare Scenario: ...With war seemingly imminent, the movement is being forced to fall back on a second scenario, "Everyone Loses," in which the warnings of a protracted and bloody war that destabilizes the Middle East and increases terrorism bear their bitter fruit.

However unpalatable in terms of destroyed lives and infrastructure, this latter scenario would at least quash the Administration's imperial dreams and force the kind of soul searching of United States' policies that is a major goal of the movement. But this outcome is less likely than many assume, and the antiwar movement would be well advised to plan for a third scenario: "Bush Wins."

In this third scenario, the war is over quickly with relatively low U.S. casualties, some sort of mechanism for transitional rule is put in place and President Bush and his policies gain unprecedented power and prestige. From my recent conversations with organizers and their latest pronouncements, it is clear that this possibility has yet to be addressed. Waiting much longer could spell disaster for the antiwar movement...

The social and political forces unleashed by the end of decades of Hussein's murderous rule will not easily be penned in by a US-sponsored show-democracy; but whether these forces use a reopened public sphere or turn to violence to respond to the likely betrayal depends in good measure on how adroitly the world progressive community can lay fast but deep roots in Iraq.

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